The price of being a clean fighter: Velasquez and Cruz

[JonnyBones]

A lot of fans complain about how often Cain and Dominick are injured but you have to understand, that's the price of trying to train as much as they train while on the physical decline. The majority of adult males who are past age 25 rather or not you want to believe it, or rather or not it makes you feel insecure about yourself, are most likely on the physical decline.

Staying in shape; despite having health benefits, will not help a fighter recover from the injuries bruisings and compounding skeletal microfractures, that build up over an intense long fight camp.

In reality, if the majority of fighters trained clean or never cycled, in the typical MMA fight you'd see soft bodied men gasping for air in the later rounds, and pull outs and carreer ending debilitating injuries would be FAR more common in the sport. Even fighters, who pop and come back and fight with a drastically different physicque are managing to cycle some form of testosterone or AAS, or Sarm.

 

[chinarice]

Or they're constantly injured because they messed up their body by training through injuries, aided by steroids.....

 

[Combat Wombatt]

No, Cain was his own worst enemy doing stupid weight lifting that hurt him.


Many fighters get hurt in training, Cain was stupid enough to get hurt doing idiotic weight lifting sets that your average high school teenagers knows is improper.

 

[JerichoMelenko]

Both those fighters are boring to watch.

 

[WingsLax9042]

Both those fighters are boring to watch.

No shit... unless you like watching rehabbing.

 

[JerichoMelenko]

No shit... unless you like watching rehabbing.

I like UFC

 

[KingBeef]

inb4 someone posts Cain on the leg extension .gif

 

[Sleepdancer]

Or they're constantly injured because they messed up their body by training through injuries, aided by steroids.....

I don’t have any statistics, so talking out my ass, but I’m pretty confident in saying that we have seen a large uptic in injuries since USADA got involved.

 

[Ralph Wiggum]

Good point. It would also help explain how many more fighters are pulling out of fights due to injury after USADA.

 

[FinalConflict2005]

@KingBeef

 

[Clippy]

 

[Guld]

Reasons a fighter drops out of a fight due to "injury"...

1) They are legitimately injured.
2) They have a minor injury that normally they would have just used steroids to overcome.
3) They have done their own private testing and realize that if they compete they will fail their pre or post fight drug test.

With better drug testing, all 3 are more common.

 

[chinarice]

I don’t have any statistics, so talking out my ass, but I’m pretty confident in saying that we have seen a large uptic in injuries since USADA got involved.

Well, there are people juicing and passing USADA tests so that is hard to say.

 

[FinalConflict2005]

Fighters are also pushing themselves harder because the sport is so competitive. Barbell movements like snatches require slow progression and expert instruction thus these dudes are getting injured by mcdojo “strength” coaches.

 

[Fuzzybabyducks]

im over 30 and in the best shape of my life... At 25 i hadnt even kissed a girl yet but this year I have already kissed one and even held her hand for over a minute.

 

[dim_]

A lot of fans complain about how often Cain and Dominick are injured but you have to understand, that's the price of trying to train as much as they train while on the physical decline. The majority of adult males who are past age 25 rather or not you want to believe it, or rather or not it makes you feel insecure about yourself, are most likely on the physical decline.

Staying in shape; despite having health benefits, will not help a fighter recover from the injuries bruisings and compounding skeletal microfractures, that build up over an intense long fight camp.

In reality, if the majority of fighters trained clean or never cycled, in the typical MMA fight you'd see soft bodied men gasping for air in the later rounds, and pull outs and carreer ending debilitating injuries would be FAR more common in the sport. Even fighters, who pop and come back and fight with a drastically different physicque are managing to cycle some form of testosterone or AAS, or Sarm.

Hogwash

yes, there are prohibited substances that help you recover from injuries etc. obviously.

but there are also plenty of prohibited substances that long term can have a detrimental effect and result in injuries



example: two people have said that Ronaldo (the original ronaldo)'s knee injuries and early retirement were down to steroid abuse earlier in his career

http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2008/02/reports-of-socc.html

(A brazilian doctor Bernando Santi, and none other than brazilian legend Socrates - also a doctor - have publicly accused ronaldo)


There is a difference between Ronaldo's muscle mass and the tendons on his knee. We have all seen Ronaldo grow too fast at the start of his career. That destroyed his knees forever. - Socrates




so someone being injured all the time has no bearing on if they are clean or dirty..



another example, look at Gareth Bale's ridiculous physical transformation since joining Real Madrid.... but also look at his rate of injury.. His injuries have gone through the roof in Spain

 

[Gambit MMA]

im over 30 and in the best shape of my life... At 25 i hadnt even kissed a girl yet but this year I have already kissed one and even held her hand for over a minute.

damn! good shit bro

 

[gato sin techo]

if steroids were that great helping people recover you'd think patients would be getting tons of steroids after car crashes and surgeries and shit

 

[dim_]

Good point. It would also help explain how many more fighters are pulling out of fights due to injury after USADA.

do you have any statistics to show this is actually the case?

 

[The GIF Poster]