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Every case that I have mentioned was interesting.
I know that, it's why I asked if you think he will be convicted.
Weird that you hate when race is brought up in these situations, but you feel the need to bring race up right off the bat.
Here is a little more on this aspect from a Buffalo news article:
The Attorney General’s Office called policing experts to testify before the grand jury – two sergeants with the State Police and a former police officer-turned professor, according to court documents.
Based on their testimony, Nigro disregarded risks and his actions were “a gross deviation from the standard of conduct that a reasonable officer would observe in this situation,” prosecutors said in court papers.
Among them, according to court documents:
After the second order over the radio to cease pursuit, Nigro and the other trooper deactivated the lights and sirens on their vehicles. At that point Huber stopped his vehicle, but then drove off.
- A state police sergeant twice over the police radio called for troopers to terminate their pursuit of Huber. After the first command, Nigro and another trooper continued to follow Huber’s Chevrolet Malibu.
Another sergeant called Nigro on his cellphone and Nigro told him he wasn’t actively pursuing Huber, but could see his vehicle in traffic. The sergeant “instructed Trooper Nigro to maintain a visual of Huber.”
According to court documents filed by Nigro’s defense, when asked during grand jury testimony whether Nigro’s actions were good tactical decisions, State Police Technical Sgt. Philip Shappy said, “I would constitute that as a tactical blunder, yes.”
- Nigro never provided updates on his location.
- Nigro parked his patrol car in front of Huber’s vehicle, even though training calls for police to position their vehicle behind a suspect.
- Nigro, who was engaged in a “high risk/felony stop,” didn’t call for backup before approaching Huber’s car.
- Nigro also didn’t have a plan before he approached the vehicle, didn’t wait for backup before trying to pull Huber out of the car and didn’t holster his gun before going “hands on” with a person.
After reading all of that I do agree with you saying that the family will get a settlement. I also doubt the cop will be convicted of manslaughter. IMO another case where killing the guy could have been avoided if the cop made better decisions, but Huber fucked around enough to where the cop won't get convicted of a crime. I do think the cop should probably be fired though.
Ok, I don’t remember all the cases you brought in. To be fair to me, quite a few have been dropped on me-fair to say? But I did find this one interesting andni enjoyed digging into it. I would say that when the officers slow down and turn off lights, that is no longer a pursuit, so they did terminate the pursuit. Maintaining visual contact with the vehicle if possible is always preferred. Some depts use helicopters to do so. I absolutely disagree with his tactics and I believe I said so. He took a lot of stupid risks that I wouldn’t have taken. I mentioned going hands on with a gun out, for one. I didn’t know he parked in front of him which baffles me-maybe he thinks he’s blocking him in? With all that said, a couple things are very evident to me. First, letitia james hates cops. She charged him with first and second degree manslaughter. Make up your mind, bitch-is it first or second? She went harder on him that she would a bag of fudge rounds(bitch fat). Not sure why state ag even involved. Maybe because he was a state trooper or she just sticking her nose in because she can?
I also pointed out that his tactical decisions and his policy violations are not evidence of a crime. Putting himself in harm’s way or making stupid decisions does not outweigh huber’s repeated reckless criminal decisions to the point he is not allowed to defend himself.
I did forget to mention that the fact that Nigro was knocked down by the vehicle, which bolsters his self defense claim imo.
As for me bringing up race, well, do you disagree? Would this have been a bigger deal if he was black? I 100% do and believe ben crump would run his own mother over ti get this case.