The Philosophy of Cloud Atlas

[Jack Reacheround]

I really enjoyed that movie. It came along while I was going through some rough shit.

 

[FacePunch]

Cloud Atlas is vapid trash.

 

[Der Eisbär]

After 3 minutes of your video, I had to turn it off. Too queer for me.

Uh. Ok

 

[Johnson]

Lol @ trying to make sense of cloud atlas. Chuck that movie in the trash and just watch shia labeef in transformers.

 

[tonysmasseuse]

Now I'm curious where you live.

And also how you could so completely miss the point of the movie.

Scandinavia. Epi center of soft socialism.

 

[J_C]

Nice vid..one of my favorites too. Think the brothers (sisters?) Get painted as SJWs but i dont think they are at all. They support some left leaning issues but they ultimately promote individual responsibility.

 

[Der Eisbär]

Lol @ trying to make sense of cloud atlas. Chuck that movie in the trash and just watch shia labeef in transformers.

Its really not difficult. I understood it the first time I watched it

 

[Seaside]

Looked it up seems cool. I will watch it and report back

 

[GalegoREB]

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago.

Great quote, reminds me of this scene from the tv series "Kung Fu"

 

[Adamant]

I thought it was ok. I found it interesting enough that I bought it on BD. I really like the special song they make in the movie. For some reason I had remembered the song being more prevalent when I saw it in theaters. When I rewatched it on BD the song played a lot less than I had remembered. Mandela effect I guess.

 

[Der Eisbär]

I thought it was ok. I found it interesting enough that I bought it on BD. I really like the special song they make in the movie. For some reason I had remembered the song being more prevalent when I saw it in theaters. When I rewatched it on BD the song played a lot less than I had remembered. Mandela effect I guess.

They really use it pretty sparingly throughout the movie just dropping a few notes here and there then they roll out the full cloud atlas sextet during the climax. Something I hadn't realized that someone pointed out in a comment section, that I found really beautiful, is that the song actually mirrors the story. The song is 6 different parts (6 different stories/timelines) with each part of the song building on the previous, and the 7th and final part of the song returns to the beginning (eternal recurrence). Love it.

 

[tonysmasseuse]

Can you provide some examples of what you're talking about? I feel like you're thinking about another movie. There are no messages throughout the movie about "the state knows about" or "life is messy, let's regulate everything". The opposite is true about Cloud Atlas as they often portray the abuse of state power and how it can give rise to authoritarianism. I've watched this movie probably 20 times and I have no clue what you're talking about.

Well, i'm not watching it again that's for sure and to be frank, seeing how rude and aggressive you are treating people who are responding in your thread, i'm a little loathe to engage further. So you'll forgive me if i'm just going to keep it real simple...let's take a look at that quote you are so enamoured with:

"Our lives are not our own..."

How much more commie than that can you get? Non-sovereignty is the very foundation of Statism - The State owns you.

This entire movie is an ode to collectivism at every turn.

I feel you are being hood-winked by the Solsjenitsin quotes, like they mean something other than to sprinkle the movie with fancy. I mean, i could drop a Schopenhauer quote here, does that make either one of us a philosopher?

Let's try...

"Awakened to life out of the night of unconsciousness, the will finds itself as an individual in an endless and boundless world, among innumerable individuals, all striving, suffering, and erring; and, as if through a troubled dream, it hurries back to the old unconsciousness.Yet till then its desires are unlimited, its claims inexhaustible, and ever satisfied desire gives birth to a new one. No possible satisfaction in the world could suffice to still its craving, set a final goal to its demands, and fill the bottomless pit of its heart."

Peace.

 

[Der Eisbär]

Nice vid..one of my favorites too. Think the brothers (sisters?) Get painted as SJWs but i dont think they are at all. They support some left leaning issues but they ultimately promote individual responsibility.

Yeah, I think they automatically just got painted as that because they both came out as trans. Not going to lie, it is pretty strange, particularly Lana and her multicolored hot pink dreadlocks. But those sjw-type messages don't pervade Cloud Atlas, so it's all good.

 

[Der Eisbär]

Well, i'm not watching it again that's for sure and to be frank, seeing how rude and aggressive you are treating people who are responding in your thread, i'm a little loathe to engage further. So you'll forgive me if i'm just going to keep it real simple...let's take a look at that quote you are so enamoured with:

"Our lives are not our own..."

How much more commie than that can you get? Non-sovereignty is the very foundation of Statism - The State owns you.

To begin with, I've been perfectly polite to you and others itt voicing their criticism of the film. If you think me simply responding to people's criticism and breaking down why I think they're wrong is "rude and aggressive", man I've got some bad news for you.

Dude... it's philosophy, not an endorsement of communism. What in the world.
Why don't you finish the quote instead of pulling out 6 words so you can support your narrative that simply isn't there?

"Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb we are bound to others. Past and present. And with each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future."

Anyone with an ounce of sanity does not read that quote as an endorsement of communism. Again, especially when you consider the great enemy of communism, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn is referenced throughout the movie in a positive light. You are simply constructing a bizarre narrative that isnt there.

Are you trying to say that human lives aren't deeply intertwined with one another? That's really quite an assertion.

This entire movie is an ode to collectivism at every turn.

No, it's not. You're clearly some far-right dude that's looking for communism under your bed and around every corner.

I feel you are being hood-winked by the Solsjenitsin quotes, like they mean something other than to sprinkle the movie with fancy. I mean, i could drop a Schopenhauer quote here, does that make either one of us a philosopher?

Let's try...

"Awakened to life out of the night of unconsciousness, the will finds itself as an individual in an endless and boundless world, among innumerable individuals, all striving, suffering, and erring; and, as if through a troubled dream, it hurries back to the old unconsciousness.Yet till then its desires are unlimited, its claims inexhaustible, and ever satisfied desire gives birth to a new one. No possible satisfaction in the world could suffice to still its craving, set a final goal to its demands, and fill the bottomless pit of its heart."

Peace.

The movie is fundamentally about the struggle of human freedom vs tyranny. How that pervades you is beyond me. I am as anti-communism as it gets, but truly your interpretation of this movie is just absolutely bizarre and in all of the reviews of this movie that I have watched and read, I have never seen anyone make these giant absurd leaps that you have. And I've not read/watched one review that in any way shape or form claimed that the movie is about communism/collectivism. Of all the people in the world that have watched this movie you are probably the only person on earth that is making that claim about the movie.

 

[JSN]

Who the eff watched Cloud Atlas?

 

[Ares Black]

Who the eff watched Cloud Atlas?

I did. So should you.

 

[JSN]

I did. So should you.

Jk I did watch it awhile back. Pretty fuzzy on it though other than similar to The Fountain in many ways.

 

[Ares Black]

^^^^ @Ares Black ^^^^
Cloud Atlas is about "kill all the bad, greedy people, namely the rich because they most likely got that way by being sleazy, before it is too late, and never be sorry about it. "??

What an absolutely bizarre interpretation of narrative. You could literally apply what you've said to virtually EVERY movie or story. How do you not get that?

the lion king, bad things happen to mufasa from bad greedy scar who wants power

the matrix, energy hungry robots do bad things to the human race

the departed, bad greedy corrupt cops do bad corrupt things

the titanic, bad greedy capitalists take shortcuts to constructing the ship and everyone dies

the shape of water, bad mean guys do bad mean things to a good person

Bad things happening to people is the central dynamic to nearly every story ever written. Like what... that's really your complaint? The movie is about the eternal struggle between good and evil, tyranny and liberty, freedom and slavery. How else are you going to tell that story?

I know that not everyone will love, or even like Cloud Atlas.

But to me, it is one of the most ambitious and important Hollywood movies of all time. It's not a perfect film, but an extremely entertaining, thought-provoking, and moving one.

I see it as a work of art, and a sincere attempt to examine the human condition and the meaning of life. I am so glad I gave it a second chance.

 

[bdthrill]

One of the best books I’ve ever read. Love the movie too

 

[GSP_37]

I thought I'd like this movie since it looked like sci-fi futuristic, but it's not something I'd want to watch a second time. The post-apocalypse weird version of English was too weird.