The most liberal pope since Jesus?

This is great, I am being mocked by people who would vote for Hillary Clinton :icon_lol:
 
glennrod said:
Yeah, I believe in demons...and?, so do millions of other people :rolleyes:
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Dochter said:
That is hilarious. It's always hilarious being reminded how stupid people can be.
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So you think that every instance of paranormal activity is all fake because you have a closed mind? :icon_neut
 
bad seed said:
yes, literally the same god. you can think of each one as a revision over the previous doctrine. Christianity keeps the same prophets and origin that Jews do, but with the addition of Jesus and his teachings. Islam expands on that through the prophet Mohammed PBUH.

But then there are further deviations, like the sects that rose out of Islam, Protestantism, and later Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses.

At the root of it all is the Abrahamic god so its all one huge Jewish meme.
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I disagree, they don't worship the same God.

Each religion changes the nature of God substantially, to where he is entirely different depending which religion you accept as true. One God contradicts the other. You either love your neighbour and pray for him, or you kill him as an apostate. You either accept Christ, or accept Muhammad. They teach different doctrines entirely, they can't be the same.

The only way they are the same is that they both believe he is the only God, and they share the same Abrahamic origins.
 
glennrod said:
So you think that every instance of paranormal activity is all fake because you have a closed mind? :icon_neut
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I don't believe in the supernatural. That lack of belief isn't because of a closed mind but rather a lack of evidence and not being a fucking moron.
 
Dochter said:
I don't believe in the supernatural. That lack of belief isn't because of a closed mind but rather a lack of evidence and not being a fucking moron.
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there you go...put yourself on a pedestal above people who are not "fucking morons" who believe in this stuff..there are genuinely smart people believe in this stuff..but, none of them are as smart as you, because you can see through it all..even old pictures that were taken hundreds of years ago that have caught Ghosts in the picture, nope, none of it true whatsoever. Because your brain can't extend itself that far, that means that all of it is bullshit..well done :icon_neut
 
dontsnitch said:
I disagree, they don't worship the same God.

Each religion changes the nature of God substantially, to where he is entirely different depending which religion you accept as true. One God contradicts the other. You either love your neighbour and pray for him, or you kill him as an apostate. You either accept Christ, or accept Muhammad. They teach different doctrines entirely, they can't be the same.

The only way they are the same is that they both believe he is the only God, and they share the same Abrahamic origins.
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think of them as amendments made to the core constitution.

The same vengeful, wrathful G_d worshipped by the Jews is also the foundation for Christianity and Islam. Christianity also demands killing of apostates and idolaters. Modern Christianity overlooks that because its soft. Muslims keep it real.

Americans worship the same Constitution and we still cant agree on the interpretation. Thats why the Supreme Court is backlogged with so much nonsense.
 
dontsnitch said:
That's fair, maybe not everyone worships Mary, although I gotta wonder why make a prayer for her in the first place? Why teach that she is without original sin? I find the emphasis on her extremely strange, aside from the tradition of doing so.

It reminds me of when Paul rebuked some of the early converts for similar reasons. He explained that he was just a man, and that Jesus was the only one to be worshipped.

Anyway, I do think it depends on the individual, and his particular perspective on what Mary means to them.
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See the veneration of mary. She's extremely important to catholicism, but she's never to be revered over the trinity (the same as saints and angels) because that would be idolatry. They don't believe her to be a semi/subordinate god which would be paganism. The hail mary is to ask her to to pray for us. Again, catholicism is based on communal prayer that includes heaven.

Also, I think part of the issue in your understanding is that not all christians see the bible as the final word but to be at least partially interpreted through other writings. Oral traditions of judaism. Hadiths of islam. The catechism for catholics.

Again, mary is an important person in the history of jesus and the foundation of the church. Either way, catholics still support their views on intercession with biblical quotes. Google-fu would be your friend in this instance.

Last, imo, you're conflating or confusing worship (in its modern sense) with reverence/veneration.
 
SakuMemories said:
holy shit how stupid can one person get
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Stupid enough to become de-modded and banned?
Stupid enough to equate sending your kids to church to them having sex changes?

Yeah..you might want to shut up :redface:
 
glennrod said:
there you go...put yourself on a pedestal above people who are not "fucking morons" who believe in this stuff..there are genuinely smart people believe in this stuff..but, none of them are as smart as you, because you can see through it all..even old pictures that were taken hundreds of years ago that have caught Ghosts in the picture, nope, none of it true whatsoever. Because your brain can't extend itself that far, that means that all of it is bullshit..well done :icon_neut
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There are likely many people much smarter than me that believe in such things, doesn't mean they're right on that issue. In fact, all evidence would suggest they're wrong.

For the record, I don't "believe" anything.
 
bad seed said:
think of them as amendments made to the core constitution.

The same vengeful, wrathful G_d worshipped by the Jews is also the foundation for Christianity and Islam. Christianity also demands killing of apostates and idolaters. Modern Christianity overlooks that because its soft. Muslims keep it real.

Americans worship the same Constitution and we still cant agree on the interpretation. Thats why the Supreme Court is backlogged with so much nonsense.
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Yes and no, they can't both be right. Who each believes they are worshipping is an entirely different God. One believes God is a triune God made of three persons. One believes God weighs your sins and there is no atonement.

In the sense that one can worship Brahma, and say he's the same God as the Abrahamic one because they both recognize him as creator, then sure, they're worshipping the same God, but it's just semantics.
 
Dochter said:
There are likely many people much smarter than me that believe in such things, doesn't mean they're right on that issue. In fact, all evidence would suggest they're wrong.

For the record, I don't "believe" anything.
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OK what is your explanation for the white mist that just happens to magically appear at well known haunting locations, which also happen to lower the temperatures locally, drastically?, apparitions in old pictures, and a lot of weird activity at places where bad things have happened?..what is your explanation for such phenomena?

"It's all bullshit" doesn't quite cut it either.
 
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