The Medieval thread

[SamSchmidt]

Any maces posts yet? Even the chick in Spider-Man used a mace. So maybe @UFCBlackbelt has something going on here

 

[n...not crazy]

This movie is watchable, and makes me laugh at times even though it's stupid. I've seen it more than once.

Come at me.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Of course the king had top tier armor. But one does not slice through plate armor, even if it is rather shitty. Even mail armor protects well against slicing. You may stab through low grade armor or cave it in with a power strike rather easily but not slice through it. Is not foil, its iron.
And in fantasy movies they just slice through plate like its butter.

Agree. People did not even use blades against cheap armor. But they used halberd, clubs, pikes, axes.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

I was just at Medieval Times and saw the torture gear display they had. Did you know chastity belts even had a spiked enterance around the woman’s asshole?

Damn! I would love to go back to medieval times to bugger a few wenches, but it looks like it could take some extra work getting to the asshole.

 

[ssBaldy]

Damn! I would love to go back to medieval times to bugger a few wenches, but it looks like it could take some extra work getting to the asshole.

Most chastity belts are modern replicas, and those that are indeed medieval are torture tools. You would get to that medieval ass no problem.

 

[Iroh]

I put this vid on my to watch list on Netflix. So I haven't watched it yet, but it looked interesting. Apparently it's entirely on YT too.

 

[Wet Blanket]

What a horrible time to live.

Europe was gross then. Would rather have been in Arabia with the enlightened folks than the European shitholes.

 

[KnightTemplar]

I'm guessing the main attraction relative to the longbow at the time was you didn't need to be as well trained to use it.

Exactly. It took years of training to use a Longbow effectively in battle. You had to build the strength and skill required to draw the bow, fire accurately and repeat. Longbow archers were fearsome opponents, the equivalent of modern day machine gunners. Crossbows were slower to load and less accurate, but you could train infantry to use them relatively quickly.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Knights(both French and English) tending to be honour obsessed rather than tactically aware, whenever they were able to dictate tactics going to back cavalry charges without softening an enemy up with an arrow storm first the English were far less successful(Bannockburn for example).

Indeed. One of the major mistakes Edward II made at Bannockburn was not giving sufficient protection to his Longbow men. They were isolated and vulnerable to the Scot's light cavalry. Once the majority of the archers had been killed, the English army, in spite of it's massive size, had no way to break the Scottish Schiltrons, the well trained infantry units armed with long pikes. Robert de Bruce had spent months drilling his foot soldiers to attack; prior to Bannockburn, Schiltrons were mainly used as a defensive tactic.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Otherwise known as Italians.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Exactly. It took years of training to use a Longbow effectively in battle. You had to build the strength and skill required to draw the bow, fire accurately and repeat. Longbow archers were fearsome opponents, the equivalent of modern day machine gunners. Crossbows were slower to load and less accurate, but you could train infantry to use them relatively quickly.

Again I'm guessing having a very long ruling and powerful king like Edward III is why the English were able to build up this kind of force and the French weren't.

Indeed. One of the major mistakes Edward II made at Bannockburn was not giving sufficient protection to his Longbow men. They were isolated and vulnerable to the Scot's light cavalry. Once the majority of the archers had been killed, the English army, in spite of it's massive size, had no way to break the Scottish Schiltrons, the well trained infantry units armed with long pikes. Robert de Bruce had spent months drilling his foot soldiers to attack; prior to Bannockburn, Schiltrons

In most of the major English victories wasn't it a case of having Knights and men at arms dismounted and mixed in with longbow men to protect them. I'm guessing actually a lot of the success in Crecy, Agincourt, etc wasn't only direct longbow kills but also down to fresh English men at arms(or the archers themselves, they had full length swords didn't they?) taking on exhausted charging Frenchmen.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Again I'm guessing having a very long ruling and powerful king like Edward III is why the English were able to build up this kind of force and the French weren't.

Certainly the English understood the power of the Longbow and took the training of archers very seriously. It was actually a requirement of law that all able bodied men had to train a certain amount of hours every week. At one time, football was outlawed in England as it was taking away to much time from archery training.

The Welsh were at least as good as the English when it came to archery. I can't remember the name of the battle, but during one fight between the English and Welsh, the English had conscripted Welshmen to serve as archers. The English and Welsh forces stand to, the Welsh archers draw their bows...and promptly fire them straight into the English<Lmaoo><45>

 

[Blood and Thunder]

You asked for ideas not facts so allow me to speculate, either just for cooling or more likely so you can attach symbols to the helm. Maybe even put a rope through it so it's easier to carry.

I could see that being a possibility.

Perhaps it was used to attach stuff on the inside like extra padding or something that you can adjust to get the eye slits lined up perfectly and so that it doesn't shift.

 

[Blood and Thunder]

I love the middle ages. Would I want to live in them? Fuck no.
I have had various benign health issues at various points in my life that, without modern medicine, would have possibly killed me, or made my life miserable.

Also, I don't come from nobility so would have likely been some peasant my whole life.

If you were crippled or had an amputated arm or leg it would be agony too.

 

[Blood and Thunder]

 

[Blood and Thunder]

@Blood and Thunder you really wanna be a peasant? Absolute drudgery, farming day in day out only you barely produce shit and since you are a serf you are doing it for your lord. Food is a bunch of bread maybe a little cheese or beans. So your nutrition and health kinda sucks. Ah then the lord/king needs to raise the militia every few years and you get to go fight against other peasants when the landowners have a pissing match.

If I'm going to face that much danger I'd at least want some leisure and freedom, hunter gatherer sounds much better to me.

Farming has always been tough but you're not farming all the time. There were fun things for you to do and festivals and tournaments to go to.

I think there were good lords and some peasants had it good. It must have sucked to be the unlucky one that gets picked to go off and fight.

Also peasants ate healthier bread than the rich.

 

[sleepwalk]

Just got back from England and took a few pics but seem too large for uploading to Sherdog. I went here to start.

Leeds Castle

Ridiculous engineering had to have been put into this 900 years ago (although it has obviously been updated throughout the years.) Edward "Longshanks" and Henry VIII made use of it back in the day.

 

[Blood and Thunder]

I'm drunk but when I saw the OP mention running around in an "enchanted forest" I laughed uncontrollably for like a good 30 seconds.

Look again it says enchanting (delightfully charming or attractive).

Sherwood Forest is very enchanting

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

 

[Blood and Thunder]

Any maces posts yet? Even the chick in Spider-Man used a mace. So maybe @UFCBlackbelt has something going on here

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