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Ichibanner said:
Huh, most comic dorks (such as myself) loved Wonder Woman and never bitched about Scarlet Witch, Black Widow, or Wasp or Gwen Stacy in Into the Spiderverse. Care to guess why Captain Marvel gets hate? Zero emoting by the lead actress, paint by numbers plot, and a movie that made it hard for me to give a shit about anything happening in it. Look at what is DC's #1 or #2 best movie in the series depending on how you view Shazam and then look at the MCU's Captain Marvel which probably lands somewhere in the bottom three among general audiences.

General audiences loved Wonder Woman. They didn't like Captain Marvel.

Cappy Marvel is Cosmic tier, a Deus Ex Machina that handles everything short of Thanos when he wields the Infinity Gautlet which makes me wonder throughout the movie "What's the point?".
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well that's just your opinion man. i loved the movie. watched it twice.
 
Personally I think Captain Marvel is the worst out of all the MCU movies.

For the record I don't hate any of them. Most have pretty good re-watchability. I probably over rank a few as some may just have that one or two moments that I love and the rest of the movie could just be okay. Example.... people hate Age of Ultron... I don't think its the best movie out there, but the scene of them trying to pick up the hammer, and Hulk vs Iron Man bumps the movie up. Also kind of punished Black Panther. By the time it rolled around, the hero vs the bad version of themselves had been done so many times. Endgame I keep near the top because I think of it and Infinity war almost as one movie. And just the years and stories told to get to that point was epic. End of an arc that had been built and executed on for years. Gets bonus points.
Depending on my mood though I could also move some of these up and down the list.

  1. AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR
  2. AVENGERS: ENDGAME
  3. THOR: RAGNAROK
  4. CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER
  5. GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY
  6. CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR
  7. GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL.2
  8. IRON MAN
  9. THE AVENGERS
  10. BLACK PANTHER
  11. AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON
  12. SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING
  13. ANT-MAN
  14. CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER
  15. DOCTOR STRANGE
  16. IRON MAN 2
  17. SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME
  18. ANT-MAN AND THE WASP
  19. THOR
  20. THE INCREDIBLE HULK
  21. THOR: THE DARK WORLD
  22. IRON MAN 3
  23. CAPTAIN MARVEL
 
2DUM2TAP said:
Personally I think Captain Marvel is the worst out of all the MCU movies.

For the record I don't hate any of them. Most have pretty good re-watchability. I probably over rank a few as some may just have that one or two moments that I love and the rest of the movie could just be okay. Example.... people hate Age of Ultron... I don't think its the best movie out there, but the scene of them trying to pick up the hammer, and Hulk vs Iron Man bumps the movie up. Also kind of punished Black Panther. By the time it rolled around, the hero vs the bad version of themselves had been done so many times. Endgame I keep near the top because I think of it and Infinity war almost as one movie. And just the years and stories told to get to that point was epic. End of an arc that had been built and executed on for years. Gets bonus points.
Depending on my mood though I could also move some of these up and down the list.

  1. AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR
  2. AVENGERS: ENDGAME
  3. THOR: RAGNAROK
  4. CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER
  5. GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY
  6. CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR
  7. GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL.2
  8. IRON MAN
  9. THE AVENGERS
  10. BLACK PANTHER
  11. AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON
  12. SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING
  13. ANT-MAN
  14. CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER
  15. DOCTOR STRANGE
  16. IRON MAN 2
  17. SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME
  18. ANT-MAN AND THE WASP
  19. THOR
  20. THE INCREDIBLE HULK
  21. THOR: THE DARK WORLD
  22. IRON MAN 3
  23. CAPTAIN MARVEL
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Hell yeah Age of Ultron is definitely better then people give it credit for. It had some of the most interesting philosophical questions of any Marvel movie - especially the ramifications of artificial intelligence and the power and manipulation of the military industrial complex. Plus it had my favorite trailer of any Marvel movie!

I hope Ultron makes a return appearance at some point down the road...
 
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But for what its worth, I'm also probably the only one that didn't care much for Endgame
 
I should give Endgame another shot when I have a chance
 
HenryFlower said:
i’m the boomer? that’s cute.

they don’t “attract unknowns” you simp. their design for years now has been to seek out independent filmmakers w/ some clout. it’s not their fault the only director you’ve ever heard of is Martin Scorsese. that says more about you than about them tbh
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lol at independent directors with some clout. The Russos were nobodies before Marvel came calling... and don’t act like they weren’t.

They hired name Directors for the phase 1&2 movies cause Feige and Co. largely had no idea of what they were doing and needed the credibility of big name behind the line talent to attract the big name actors they wanted. That’s a fact.

They weren’t getting Scarlett Johansson and RDJ and Chris Evans to sign on to work with no name sitcom directors.

Once Marvel Studios was established as a money printing factory they were able to tell Edgar Wright to go fuck himself and bring in guys like James Gunn (another little known director) to make their movies and surround him
With big names... no problem.
 
Buddy Revell said:
lol at independent directors with some clout. The Russos were nobodies before Marvel came calling... and don’t act like they weren’t.

They hired name Directors for the phase 1&2 movies cause Feige and Co. largely had no idea of what they were doing and needed the credibility of big name behind the line talent to attract the big name actors they wanted. That’s a fact.

They weren’t getting Scarlett Johansson and RDJ and Chris Evans to sign on to work with no name sitcom directors.

Once Marvel Studios was established as a money printing factory they were able to tell Edgar Wright to go fuck himself and bring in guys like James Gunn (another little known director) to make their movies and surround him
With big names... no problem.
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yes, independent filmmakers w/ some clout, as in critically acclaimed indie directors that aren’t household names... kinda like a majority of good-to-great independent filmmakers.

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sure, the Russos don’t fit that categorization precisely, but to act like they didn’t carve out a respectable career for themselves as television directors, then idk what to tell you, man.

you might be the only person in the world who thinks Favreau was a “name director” prior to Iron Man. Joe Johnston? a director-for-hire Yes man, sure, but a name director? please. Joss Whedon? minus some solid writing credits, he cut his teeth in television just like the Russos, albeit w/ that cult cred.

you are guilty of revisionist history, my friend.
 
HenryFlower said:
yes, independent filmmakers w/ some clout, as in critically acclaimed indie directors that aren’t household names... kinda like a majority of good-to-great independent filmmakers.

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sure, the Russos don’t fit that categorization precisely, but to act like they didn’t carve out a respectable career for themselves as television directors, then idk what to tell you, man.

you might be the only person in the world who thinks Favreau was a “name director” prior to Iron Man. Joe Johnston? a director-for-hire Yes man, sure, but a name director? please. Joss Whedon? minus some solid writing credits, he cut his teeth in television just like the Russos, albeit w/ that cult cred.

you are guilty of revisionist history, my friend.
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Whedon and Favs were both at least more “famous” than the Russo Bro’s. Well, as far as I could tell. I’d heard of them both at least, while the Russos were total unknowns to me.

I mean, Marvel didn’t hand their franchises off to talentless nobodies. They combed the system for under-utilized talent and found some like a sports team, but even in that pool there were bigger and smaller fish. Hard to say the Russos were bigger than Buffy The Vampire Slayer, a character that had a full budget film and a long running series behind it, one that produced a household name in Sarah Michelle Gellar...
 
Aegon Spengler said:
Whedon and Favs were both at least more “famous” than the Russo Bro’s. Well, as far as I could tell. I’d heard of them both at least, while the Russos were total unknowns to me.

I mean, Marvel didn’t hand their franchises off to talentless nobodies. They combed the system for under-utilized talent and found some like a sports team, but even in that pool there were bigger and smaller fish. Hard to say the Russos were bigger than Buffy The Vampire Slayer, a character that had a full budget film and a long running series behind it, one that produced a household name in Sarah Michelle Gellar...
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did you know Favreau as a filmmaker or an actor though? obviously Whedon had Buffy on his resume, but he wasn’t making a name for himself as a film director. he was also the creator of the series, whereas the Russos just directed multiple episodes of a handful of popular series. i wasn’t trying to make the argument that the Russos had as much of a name as Whedon anyways.
 
HenryFlower said:
provide proof that this was the case in this specific instance & i’ll gladly eat crow.
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Shes black and a she.

Typically, you hire comic book movie veterans to direct these types of movies.

Look, if you cant see it, i cant help you.
 
HenryFlower said:
did you know Favreau as a filmmaker or an actor though? obviously Whedon had Buffy on his resume, but he wasn’t making a name for himself as a film director. he was also the creator of the series, whereas the Russos just directed multiple episodes of a handful of popular series. i wasn’t trying to make the argument that the Russos had as much of a name as Whedon anyways.
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I didn’t know Favs as a director, no. Knew him as an actor.

However you want to look at it, these movies have elevated everyone involved...except Ed Norton
 
TrueBias said:
Shes black and a she.

Typically, you hire comic book movie veterans to direct these types of movies.

Look, if you cant see it, i cant help you.
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i don’t think you know what proof means.

TrueBias said:
Typically, you hire comic book movie veterans to direct these types of movies.
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except that hasn’t typically been the case. what kind of shit of liesville are you living in?
 
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First one was not bad but not great, the 90's nostalgia sold it for a lot of people. I think she should step aside and let a trans-indigenous person have the role.
 
HenryFlower said:
i don’t think you know what proof means.

except that hasn’t typically been the case. what kind of shit of liesville are you living in?
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Ugh. What a totally predictable response.

*yawn
 
Aegon Spengler said:
I didn’t know Favs as a director, no. Knew him as an actor.

However you want to look at it, these movies have elevated everyone involved...except Ed Norton
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Yeah ill agree with that.

These movies made a lot of money, which means a lot of people saw them and now know the actors. Then, if they like the movies, which they typically do, they seek out and then know the film makers.

This new director has 6 credits, all of which are didnt make a lot of money. Coming from the 1st movies sales (on the curtails of Infinity War mind yous), its a gamble to have a sequel being directed by someone inexperienced.

But yet...here she is.
 
Randlewand said:
But for what its worth, I'm also probably the only one that didn't care much for Endgame
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I liked it less than Infinity.

I mean...i saw Infinity 3 or maybe 4 times in the theater. Endgame i only saw once. I feel they shit the bed when it came to certain characters.
 
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