Movies THE MARVELS (Full Trailer Released, post #281)

[Texan6533]

To be honest I just didn’t find the first one very interesting...maybe it’s just me. Probably will wait until the second one comes out on Disney plus.

 

[Ichibanner]

To be honest I just didn’t find the first one very interesting...maybe it’s just me. Probably will wait until the second one comes out on Disney plus.

It's not just you. Look at Rotten Tomatoes. That site is usually full of SJW "Pro" critics who find it hard to go against any female or minority led movie no matter how bad they are but the general audience score is usually pretty close to legit. Wonder Woman is trending at 87% Fresh while Captain Marvel is at 48% Rotten. The Audience has spoken and they agree with you.

 

[ssBaldy]

I have a feeling it is going to suck. I don't like Captain Marvel as a character and I did not like the writing and acting in the first movie. I am looking forward to GOTG 3, Thor 4 and Loki mini series, Cap Marvel is not on my radar.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

at least Feige & the mouse have the decency to not hire a can like Zack Snyder to carry the full weight of their most valuable IP & are willing to give a conduit into the mainstream consciousness for independent filmmakers who have been building a career on the festival circuit & picking up critical acclaim along the way.

i’ll never understand why diversity is considered a negative

That does I think show you the most obvious difference between Marvel and DC, the former have generally turned to rising film makers(and actors) were as the latter have tend to go with established names often with careers on the slide. That's been especially true since Feige took greater control after the first few years whilst DC doesn't really seem to have anyone with that degree of ambition, it all comes across as much more your typical Hollywod play it safe business and probably a good deal of nepotism.

Honestly as far as "diversity" goes I think you have a lot of quite different arguments here. Some of them are clearly coming from bigoted people who would be happy for Mel Gibson to star in every action blockbuster until the end of time BUT I would say there is also an argument that it is being used in a cynical fashion. Indeed I think part of the latter is dependant on the former, because studios know any female/non white led blockbuster will attract the ire of insecure right wing man children it is an easy path towards making your film seem politically relevant.

Generally I think Marvel have tended to avoid that but Captain Marvel did feel like it was pushing more in that direction to me and I wonder how much pressure was being put on Feige to respond to the PR black eye of DC's Wonderwoman from Disney. It did to me feel like Rey in Starwars, a film that was hurt by its lead character being a mary sue lacking in dramatic depth which ironically resulted in Law, Jackson and Mendelsohn having more interest to them.

 

[Buddy Revell]

yes, independent filmmakers w/ some clout, as in critically acclaimed indie directors that aren’t household names... kinda like a majority of good-to-great independent filmmakers.

sure, the Russos don’t fit that categorization precisely, but to act like they didn’t carve out a respectable career for themselves as television directors, then idk what to tell you, man.

you might be the only person in the world who thinks Favreau was a “name director” prior to Iron Man. Joe Johnston? a director-for-hire Yes man, sure, but a name director? please. Joss Whedon? minus some solid writing credits, he cut his teeth in television just like the Russos, albeit w/ that cult cred.

you are guilty of revisionist history, my friend.

I think you’re off the mark. Marvels secret sauce is that they use the comic books for the visuals and the direction of their films is otherwise pretty standard. Where they invested in early was in talented writers, especially in an established guy like Whedon. They also created a kind of farm system of young talented writers like Nicole Perlman, who they hired to basically make GOTG a viable enough property so that they could attract a half decent director onto the project. Which they did

That’s my point. Marvel has and has always prioritized talented screenwriters and faithfulness to the source material (visually and narratively) over directorial vision. Which is why besides the Black Panther Director they’ve gotten no big name guys. The director of the films are an afterthought just because of those reasons and the fact that Feige and his core of Marvel Comics guys run the show.
If you don’t see that they I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

That’s my point. Marvel has and has always prioritized talented screenwriters and faithfulness to the source material (visually and narratively) over directorial vision. Which is why besides the Black Panther Director they’ve gotten no big name guys. The director of the films are an afterthought just because of those reasons and the fact that Feige and his core of Marvel Comics guys run the show.
If you don’t see that they I don’t know what to tell you.

They do obviously look to take a lot of influence from the comics but I think your massively underestimating the contribution of the directors involved here, especially the Russos, Gunn and Waititi, besides of course having a lot of influence on the writing(or actually doing it) the idea you can simply point to a comic and say "make it look like that" is pretty far from reality IMHO.

Marvel's success has really been that they've been able to merge reasonably faithful adaptations with directors style and indeed actors personas.

 

[SammyPops]

So is that woke chick actress being replaced by a black tranny?

 

[Prefect]

I found the movie to be alright but kind of forgettable. I don't find the character interesting. She seems overpowered and flat. It is the same reason why it is hard to write good movies for superman or the hulk. The female lead in The Boys has more depth and issues to work with. I still have no idea what the hook is on the character Captain Marvel that will make her interesting.

 

[blaseblah]

It's not just you. Look at Rotten Tomatoes. That site is usually full of SJW "Pro" critics who find it hard to go against any female or minority led movie no matter how bad they are but the general audience score is usually pretty close to legit. Wonder Woman is trending at 87% Fresh while Captain Marvel is at 48% Rotten. The Audience has spoken and they agree with you.

There's also the opposite effect though. Lot of MRA types got pissed off at Larsen being a feminist and her comments prior to the movie. They review bombed RT with 0s.

I find IMDb to be a much more accurate source. Cuts out both the SJW critics and the review bombers.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4154664/

 

[sweetviolenturg]

Another gay ass superhero movie. I can imagine what kind of people are going to watch this

Well, since six of the top ten highest-grossing movies of all time are "gay ass superhero movies" that must mean that a whole lot of people enjoy them.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Well, since six of the top ten highest-grossing movies of all time are "gay ass superhero movies" that must mean that a whole lot of people enjoy them.

Rather amusing that most people who seem to rant in that fashion love nothing but equally cheesey 80's action cinema, I mean I love a lot of that too but the idea its somehow more "grown up" is pretty questionable.

 

[sweetviolenturg]

Rather amusing that most people who seem to rant in that fashion love nothing but equally cheesey 80's action cinema, I mean I love a lot of that too but the idea its somehow more "grown up" is pretty questionable.

For sure, bro. LOL.

 

[taurus]

Yawn, grabbing a shit level director is barely news, shows that real directors don’t want to be associated with this garbage franchise.

It only shows that in the future, directors and screenwriters will have to be whatever race/gender/sexual preference/body type/same interests and hobbies the main character is. Can't wait for them to try to find an actor/director/screenwriter combo for the inevitable Big Bertha origin story movie.

 

[taurus]

I found the movie to be alright but kind of forgettable. I don't find the character interesting. She seems overpowered and flat. It is the same reason why it is hard to write good movies for superman or the hulk. The female lead in The Boys has more depth and issues to work with. I still have no idea what the hook is on the character Captain Marvel that will make her interesting.

Completely agree with female lead in Boys comparison. Two scenes with her, you have more interest, more charisma, more developed character than two movies with Cap Marvel, one being her own movie.

It's SJW and "woke" culture. Everytime you mention Cap Marvel being boring (as a character, and the movie itself), you're immediately labeled as a chauvinistic pig, regardless of arguments.
I'm not even going to mention the BP movie anymore, especially on reddit. People there be crazy, doxxing and sh*t.

My guess on how they try to make the sequel interesting is more pop culture music. GotG was both a breakthrough and a curse in that sense. Every movie after it tries to replace qualities of a good movie (good story, character development, good acting, pacing, visuals etc) with cheap use of popular music from a specific time period (late 80s and 90 for Cap Marvel).

 

[Deleted member 457759]

First movie was so so nothing too bad.

Kinda forgettable but if you find yourself watching it (random TV / streaming) you will be like eh okay I guess.

What disappointed me is how bland Brie Larson performance was, she was like sleep walking through the movie. I saw her in other stuff she is talented and has charisma so no idea why she came off like that.

Also...

That's because Bre Larson is a shitty actor who achieved popularity by projecting a cunt attitude.

 

[TheLinguist]

It only shows that in the future, directors and screenwriters will have to be whatever race/gender/sexual preference/body type/same interests and hobbies the main character is. Can't wait for them to try to find an actor/director/screenwriter combo for the inevitable Big Bertha origin story movie.

Lol so true

 

[Oogie Sharp]

Looking forward to it. I could care less if Brie is a (insert bad word) or not. I'm not married to her. <45>

Won't affect my good time watching her.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Update: December 10, 2020

Iman Vellani's Ms. Marvel and Teyonah Parris' Monica Rambeau to Appear in CAPTAIN MARVEL 2

Revealed during The Walt Disney Company’s 2020 Investor Day presentation by Kevin Feige, president, Marvel Studios, and chief creative officer, Marvel, returning to her role as Carol Danvers in Marvel Studios’ Captain Marvel 2, Brie Larson will be joined by Iman Vellani, who makes her debut as Ms. Marvel in the Disney+ series of the same name.

Additionally, joining the cast is Teyonah Parris, who portrays grown-up Monica Rambeau — a character introduced as a child in Marvel Studios’ Captain Marvel — in Marvel Studios’ WandaVision. The film, directed by Nia DaCosta, is slated to open November 11, 2022.

https://www.marvel.com/articles/movies/captain-marvel-2-ms-marvel-nia-dacosta

 

[KnightTemplar]

Update: December 10, 2020

Iman Vellani's Ms. Marvel and Teyonah Parris' Monica Rambeau to Appear in CAPTAIN MARVEL 2

Revealed during The Walt Disney Company’s 2020 Investor Day presentation by Kevin Feige, president, Marvel Studios, and chief creative officer, Marvel, returning to her role as Carol Danvers in Marvel Studios’ Captain Marvel 2, Brie Larson will be joined by Iman Vellani, who makes her debut as Ms. Marvel in the Disney+ series of the same name.

Additionally, joining the cast is Teyonah Parris, who portrays grown-up Monica Rambeau — a character introduced as a child in Marvel Studios’ Captain Marvel — in Marvel Studios’ WandaVision. The film, directed by Nia DaCosta, is slated to open November 11, 2022.

https://www.marvel.com/articles/movies/captain-marvel-2-ms-marvel-nia-dacosta

Probably the Phase 4 & 5 move I'm least interested in, to be honest.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Update: February 12, 2021

CAPTAIN MARVEL 2 Casts Velvet Buzzsaw's Zawe Ashton as the Main Villain

As pre-production ramps up on Captain Marvel 2, Brie Larson looks to have found her next co-star she will square off against as sources tell Deadline, Velvet Buzzsaw‘s Zawe Ashton has been set as the villain in the next installment in the Marvel franchise. Nia DaCosta, who directed the anticipated reboot of Candyman, has been tapped as director on the film.

Megan McDonnell, a story editor on the Marvel-based series WandaVision, penned the script for the Captain Marvel sequel, with Ms. Marvel star Iman Vellani and Teyonah Parris also on board to star. While the exact character is unknown sources do say Ashton will be the main villain, though as we know with all Marvel films, there is always a chance the another antagonist may remain hidden till the very end of the film.

In the first film, Larson’s Carol Danvers was a human who becomes involved in the war between two alien races, the Kree and shape-shifting Skrulls. Surviving an explosion tied to an alien engine imbued her with incredible power, turning her into Captain Marvel and making her one of the most powerful heroes in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

The film was released in March 2019 and grossed $1.13 billion worldwide. Captain Marvel 2 is set to bow on November 11, 2022.

Ashton first broke on to the scene with her role in the TV series Fresh Meat. She was recently seen on Broadway in the revival of Betrayal opposite Tom Hiddleston. On the film side, she was most recently seen opposite Jake Gyllenhaal in Netflix’s Velvet Buzzsaw. Other credits include Nocturnal Animals and Greta.

https://deadline.com/2021/02/captain-marvel-2-zawe-ashton-marvel-sequel-1234692951/