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[James Eagle]

Why not accept this bill and then promise to do more later?

This bill is supported by the Border Patrol. And there is nothing preventing House Republicans coming up with an additional bill and passing it through Congress.

There is no reason not to support this bill unless this is all for show, and republicans don't really give a shit about fixing the border, but only hope to campaign on it.

Not that there was ever any doubt about that.

no its not. in fact the border patrol says implicitly it7 stands with Texas

 

[oldshadow]

Why not accept this bill and then promise to do more later?

This bill is supported by the Border Patrol. And there is nothing preventing House Republicans coming up with an additional bill and passing it through Congress.

There is no reason not to support this bill unless this is all for show, and republicans don't really give a shit about fixing the border, but only hope to campaign on it.

Not that there was ever any doubt about that.

Because we will not get any thing later. Even if the democrats say they will. See what happened with Ragan.

We see it now or no deal.

I think you mean "shill"...and you couldnt be more wrong. The Border Patrol Union endorsed Trump in 2016, recently heavily criticized Biden, as Judd is a Trump supporter. You see what you do? You automatically accuse anyone who doesn't do what you've been programmed to spout out of being partisan.

You're being partisan, and you're espousing obstructionism. This bill is not worse. It's better than anything Trump got done and I dont even like it. But you cant even begin to admit that you dont know what you're talking about and are just regurgitating Twitter Caucus talking points so hard you just turned on one of your own because he dares to oppose Daddy Trump's decree. You sh*t on the actual Border Patrol without hesitation lol

Show me in this bill where it secures the border and where it set e verify.

 

[oldshadow]

Sinema was just on Brett Baer saying it does stop catch and release.

Show where it stops that and how.

 

[oldshadow]

Double

 

[Whippy McGee]

The Democrat assholes could end the Border crisis tomorrow by simply having Biden do a single Executive Order that rescinds the 94 other Executive Orders he put in place to fuck our entire border up in a quest for new voters, since the Democrats are down to the worst 25% of the population as their base.

 

[Darkballs]

Because we will not get any thing later. Even if the democrats say they will. See what happened with Ragan.

So you're solution is to quit without even trying? And you expect people to believe this is genuine?

You have zero confidence in republicans ability to put forth a bill that American's would support? So what then is your solution? Republicans are categorically refusing to consider anything. Do republicans have any plan whatsoever?

We all know the answer to this. You don't want any solution. You want Trump to campaign on it. But when you are this blatant with your lies, it isn't going to get you any traction. Hell, before this stunt you could have counted on a handful of independents to trust that maybe you had a plan. Now everyone sees his screeching for exactly what it is. A stunt, and nothing more.

The idea that you won't move on anything, until you get a wall spanning the entire border, is horseshit. Republicans had that chance under Trump, and didn't even try. And not a single cry was heard when his administration racked up record setting immigrations.

You can't just drop your values depending on who's in office and just pray that no one notices.

 

[oldshadow]

So you're solution is to quit without even trying? And you expect people to believe this is genuine?

You have zero confidence in republicans ability to put forth a bill that American's would support? So what then is your solution? Republicans are categorically refusing to consider anything. Do republicans have any plan whatsoever?

We all know the answer to this. You don't want any solution. You want Trump to campaign on it. But when you are this blatant with your lies, it isn't going to get you any traction. Hell, before this stunt you could have counted on a handful of independents to trust that maybe you had a plan. Now everyone sees his screeching for exactly what it is. A stunt, and nothing more.

The idea that you won't move on anything, until you get a wall spanning the entire border, is horseshit. Republicans had that chance under Trump, and didn't even try. And not a single cry was heard when his administration racked up record setting immigrations.

You can't just drop your values depending on who's in office and just pray that no one notices.

Trump did not do what he should have and promised to do. Now the democrats fought him at every turn. So there is that but he could have done much better.

Building a fence ( not the entire length of the border) is only the first step in securing the border.

As I said the Republicans should put a bill out there that has what is needed. Or put out amendments to the bill that do what is needed.

Fuck this bill the way it stands now.

 

[Whippy McGee]

So you're solution is to quit without even trying? And you expect people to believe this is genuine?

You have zero confidence in republicans ability to put forth a bill that American's would support? So what then is your solution? Republicans are categorically refusing to consider anything. Do republicans have any plan whatsoever?

We all know the answer to this. You don't want any solution. You want Trump to campaign on it. But when you are this blatant with your lies, it isn't going to get you any traction. Hell, before this stunt you could have counted on a handful of independents to trust that maybe you had a plan. Now everyone sees his screeching for exactly what it is. A stunt, and nothing more.

The idea that you won't move on anything, until you get a wall spanning the entire border, is horseshit. Republicans had that chance under Trump, and didn't even try. And not a single cry was heard when his administration racked up record setting immigrations.

You can't just drop your values depending on who's in office and just pray that no one notices.

He's saying we already trusted the Democrats once and they lied big time and fucked the nation.

This bill is not a solution. It has no new funding, meaning any provision to build a wall is not funded. It allows for new positions that are allowed to grant asylum quickly and thus a path to citizenship. Who doesn't think the Democrats will have this abused to create millions of new voters? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

If Democrats really wanted to solve this, they would have their puppet Biden do a single Executive Order that rescinds the 94 other Executive Orders he put in place to fuck our entire border up.

 

[Darkballs]

Trump did not do what he should have and promised to do. Now the democrats fought him at every turn. So there is that but he could have done much better.

More like he made zero effort to secure funding, unless you count taking money away from military housing. He had two years with full control of Congress. You can't blame the dems for blocking him when he could have gotten it through with republican support alone.

The reality is he didn't have a plan. Not sure how that confounds you, as trump has a very long history of making promises he won't keep.

Building a fence ( not the entire length of the border) is only the first step in securing the border.

Why not take the $20 billion this bill provides, with support of the Border Patrol, and then push through a separate bill to fund whatever wall you want? There is no rational reason to demand a wall must come first, when you have the fucking agency in charge of the border telling you that what you have in front of you now will help.

As I said the Republicans should put a bill out there that has what is needed. Or put out amendments to the bill that do what is needed.

Ok. So when republicans fail to produce any such bill of their own, will you admit they played you for a fool?

You can't give any reason for republican inaction, other than a vague "the dems will stop them." You have controll of the house, and only would only need to pick up single digit votes in the Senate. If republicans were to put up a bill that somehow lost with a full on partisan deadlock, THEN you'd have a genuine excuse to wait.

But republicans won't do that. Because they have no solutions. Only false outrage.

And the independents you need to court for November, see right through you.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Please regale us with more tales about how Joe Biden loves a secure border.

 

[oldshadow]

More like he made zero effort to secure funding, unless you count taking money away from military housing. He had two years with full control of Congress. You can't blame the dems for blocking him when he could have gotten it through with republican support alone.

The reality is he didn't have a plan. Not sure how that confounds you, as trump has a very long history of making promises he won't keep.




Why not take the $20 billion this bill provides, with support of the Border Patrol, and then push through a separate bill to fund whatever wall you want? There is no rational reason to demand a wall must come first, when you have the fucking agency in charge of the border telling you that what you have in front of you now will help.



Ok. So when republicans fail to produce any such bill of their own, will you admit they played you for a fool?

You can't give any reason for republican inaction, other than a vague "the dems will stop them." You have controll of the house, and only would only need to pick up single digit votes in the Senate. If republicans were to put up a bill that somehow lost with a full on partisan deadlock, THEN you'd have a genuine excuse to wait.

But republicans won't do that. Because they have no solutions. Only false outrage.

And the independents you need to court for November, see right through you.

Did Trump start at least the wall the Biden stop. Did Trump make them stay in Mexico to be processed, Biden stop this. There is a list of things that were beening done that Biden stopped.

The democrats are going to kill any things the Republicans put out there because the Republicans will have no leverage. It's now or maybe never.

Republicans should put out the amendments to the bill that it would take to get support on passing the bill. Until changes are made fuck supporting this bill.

No deal until we get that. Just keep them busses rolling until they force the democrats to secure the border.

 

[ShadowRun]

The Democrat assholes could end the Border crisis tomorrow by simply having Biden do a single Executive Order that rescinds the 94 other Executive Orders he put in place to fuck our entire border up in a quest for new voters, since the Democrats are down to the worst 25% of the population as their base.

This 100%

 

[ShadowRun]

I hear you, but that quote still sounds like a pretty strong endorsement. And again, nothing would prevent House Republicans from drafting any additional bill and putting it up for a vote. But they won't do that.

Hey brotha hope things are good you have valid points as far as what are the republicans currently trying to do to fix it. Of course they are making it a voter issue but they wouldn’t have nothing to talk about if record numbers weren’t happening do to policy changes Biden has done and the over all approach by his admin.

I think the border patrol is happy with any attention/ action coming their way. I’m back in the Middle East but last year was living southern AZ I grew up there I saw a lot of changes between Trump and Biden l. Anecdotal sure but still saw things. Border patrol check points close half the time, motels taken over by government to house illegals, airport lines and directions for illegals ect.
Never saw all that before in many years near the border . I don’t blame illegals if I was in there shoes I would fake asylum or do what I can do make my life better

 

[HereticBD]

LOL @ Liberals in here trying to portray themselves as people who care about the border crisis, and blaming Republicans for it, because Biden is so incredibly fucked on this issue, due to listening to you fucking idiots for the past three years. Is it not "racist" anymore, to want to control the border? LOL

Lay in the bed of chaos you created. There's nothing you can say that is gonna turn this around on Republicans. No "sources" combined with 16 paragraphs of leftist word spew will somehow convince people that you care about anything other than power slipping through your preferred politicians' grasp, due to you morons cheering this shit on, but by all means, do keep trying. It's great entertainment.

 

[Hades86]

Grew up and Live and Texas.


I don’t understand the big deal. The border has been open my entire life and no Republican or Democrat ever cared to close it after all this time.

Why are people so up and arms? Did you guys just realize there was a border or something?

Where were you guys the past 50 years?

You will never be able to close the border 100%. It’s stupid to even try.

If the US really cared about Americans they would do a system for work using our social security numbers or something. So Mexicans coming over here can’t work. Punish employers employing them. Something dude but crying over the border will never solve anything. Trump and his big wall just made Mexicans use latters.

 

[freakroor]

i wonder what % of the “secure the border” folks have ever used cocaine..

 

[DoctorTaco]

I agree they should state what they want and draft a bill.

Common sense makes for common ground. I agree

 

[DoctorTaco]

Punish employers employing

This!

 

[Osculater]

i wonder what % of the “secure the border” folks have ever used cocaine..

 

[Darkballs]

Did Trump start at least the wall the Biden stop. Did Trump make them stay in Mexico to be processed, Biden stop this. There is a list of things that were beening done that Biden stopped.

The democrats are going to kill any things the Republicans put out there because the Republicans will have no leverage. It's now or maybe never.

Republicans should put out the amendments to the bill that it would take to get support on passing the bill. Until changes are made fuck supporting this bill.

No deal until we get that. Just keep them busses rolling until they force the democrats to secure the border.

House republicans have no leverage any more. You just squandered it. The Senate and the Biden WH don't need to run on anything more. They can point to a bi-partisan bill that you rejected out of hand while producing nothing of your own.

Think of how shitty your reasoning is. Republicans should reject this bill, because we need a better bill. But we won't even try to produce a bill, because dems will torpedo it. So we won't do anything. And we promise this isn't to help Trump, who is openly calling on us to not do anything so he can run on it in November. Even though both our speaker of the House and Jim Jordan have said they won't produce anything until then.

All that while you claim there is an emergency that must be acted on NOW! Yet even when $20 billion is on the table, and the Border Patrol needs it and supports the bill behind it, you'd rather leave them with nothing.

And you're doing that for.........leverage.