The Last Duel - do you think she lied?

[Fuzzybabyducks]

Adam Driver struck me as the scumbag rapist.

In his version of the story, he still raped her.

He also says a line about how she 'made the usual protestations'.

Like, his character been going around doing this all over?

And that's in the story where he did nothing wrong?

Yeah I know, I said she was prolly telling truth, I wasn’t there though so don’t know 100% … but not sure why she would lie .

As far as the movie they def made it seem like she was telling the truth..

The whole legal duel thing was rediculous,…,

 

[KnightTemplar]

I never doubted her.

No way Rapee Ren was smashing a girl as hot as that consensually.

 

[shunyata]

Yeah I know, I said she was prolly telling truth, I wasn’t there though so don’t know 100% … but not sure why she would lie .

As far as the movie they def made it seem like she was telling the truth..

The whole legal duel thing was rediculous,…,

Trial by combat, different culture hard to judge.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Mans lies are uaually small, yet very frequent. Men cant help but to lie about anything and everything. Womans lies are usually less frequent but much larger is scale. Men may not succumb to death or chaos due to their own lies, but they may due to their womans.

 

[Sobek]

One of few films where the fighting ( the duel) was pretty good.

I thought the combat scenes in 'The king' and 'The outlaw king (final battle sequence, not so much the final fight) were also quite entertaining. Even Ironclad had good action sequences in my opinion.

 

[RichardHarrow]

I thought the combat scenes in 'The king' and 'The outlaw king (final battle sequence, not so much the final fight) were also quite entertaining. Even Ironclad had good action sequences in my opinion.

I haven’t seen them - as good as the duel ?

 

[Sobek]

I haven’t seen them - as good as the duel ?

The king is well worth a look. Don't give up on it if it doesn't grab you initially. It is the non Shakespeare version of Henry V.

The outlaw king isn't too bad. Good battle sequence at the end.

Ironclad isn't bad, has some good action.

If you like the genre/time period, check them out, but The king is better than the others.

 

[Slobodan]

I thought the combat scenes in 'The king' and 'The outlaw king (final battle sequence, not so much the final fight) were also quite entertaining. Even Ironclad had good action sequences in my opinion.

Watched both films earlier this year, I liked them

Chris Pine did a really good job as Robert The Bruce

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

Con-fesss!!!



Reading the wiki of the events of the movie is a trip, Carrouges and Le Gris were in their 50's when the fight took place.

Also, I didn't like how Carrouges was made illiterate in the movie. Even as an amateur history buff, I knew that was impossible because he was of nobility.

 

[JadeOwl]

This is the appropriate interpretation. The film makes it pretty clear how absurd the recourse was for women in that age to protest sexual transgression against them when the transgressor was their equal (or better) in terms of social status.

It doesn't really matter whether or not you believe she's telling the truth, or if she was. The point is to highlight how absurd the standards were for her to merely cast the allegation.

The duel itself is the best ever put on screen. It's magnificent.

Although they did have to exaggerate this a bit to get the point across because I seem to remember that the real woman did have the full support of her own family during the whole trial, including one of her cousins challenging Le Gris' accomplice to a duel.

They also left out the fact that Le Gris’ main alibi witness was arrested in Paris in the middle of the trial… for raping someone.

 

[plataoplombo]

The part where he says "this man keeps doing evil onto me" after she told him she got raped made me lol. Husband gave zero fucks about what she went through.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Con-fesss!!!



Reading the wiki of the events of the movie is a trip, Carrouges and Le Gris were in their 50's when the fight took place.

Also, I didn't like how Carrouges was made illiterate in the movie. Even as an amateur history buff, I knew that was impossible because he was of nobility.

I loved Comer's line,

"My fate will be decided by which old man tires first!"

 

[shunyata]

The part where he says "this man keeps doing evil onto me" after she told him she got raped made me lol. Husband gave zero fucks about what she went through.

It was treated like a property damage dispute.

 

[plataoplombo]

It was treated like a property damage dispute.

Yeah, was pretty messed up.

 

[Morning Star]

Impossible to truly know. I thought it was interesting they showed both perspectives.

 

[Sobek]

It was treated like a property damage dispute.

To be honest yes, and things were probably worse than depicted.

Yet we have white women today complaining about how bad it is for them in 2024.

Women back then had some bleak and harsh existences at times.