Opinion The Israeli lobby has undue influence due to corruption: Change my mind

[VivaRevolution]

So a guy who had never made military-grade Sarin, and had no modern equipment, figured out how to do it in an empty building by himself, and also managed to deliver this payload from Assad's controlled military bases with Assad's equipment against Assad's enemies. Even more impressively, he managed to build a time machine, and transport himself into the past so that he could provide these weapons to ISIS in 2013 in order to carry out the Ghouta attack.

Try Googling again. This is why I won't waste my time on you. You're too simply to divine the truth in complicated matters.

Your claims that things were launched by Assad have been completely debunked by multiple sources.

This is about the 50th source showing ISIS had chemical weapons.

Time and again your narrative was shown to be BS.

Claim is was Sarin, turns out is was chlorine.

Claim you have proof things were launched from Syrian forces. The opposite is proven.

We never even really debated the attacks. What we debated was whether a blogger has the same credibility as Seymore Herch. You insanely argued the blogger had more credibility.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

Those arent people who had any chance to dethrone him even if elections were up to western standards of "free". That is a list of journalists or oligarch types or rare non politician but political commentor.

Oh wait, because they never had a chance to win, it was OK for Putin to have them killed and he is still a paragon of virtue to be used as an example of how a leader should be...derp.

 

[TeTe]

Dude, Netanyahu literally flew his fat corrupt ass down here and attempted to derail American Politics ahead of a presidential election by bypassing the president and SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO CONGRESS like he was an elected official, and nobody in power called foul to that.

I mean, what OP is getting at is fairly obvious... but this example is about exemplary as it gets.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

Netenyahu is a known war criminal, LITERALLY!

That aside, picture that happening for any other world leader.

When I said "Start with Putin." It was to illustrate the point of how ridiculous the entire scene was.

1. You stating he is a war criminal does not make him one. No charges have been brought forth by the U.N.

2. I dont need to picture it because it happens.

Here is an entire LIST of videos of Erdogan speaking in Germany, some in front of German leaders, others of him speaking to the people, opening new Mosques and a bunch of other shit because he is a superstar there...the man that made this statement of the Armenian Genocide "We did not commit a crime, therefore we do not need to apologise"...mass murder, not a crime...



Quick now, move the goalpost...

 

[Seaside]

Oh wait, because they never had a chance to win, it was OK for Putin to have them killed and he is still a paragon of virtue to be used as an example of how a leader should be...derp.

You are a brainwashed npc western neoliberal shill. So yeah. Good thing your side is losing.

And you completely didnt get what i was saying. And yes fsctually you are wrong. The only real threat to Putin is navalny who is more nationalist than Putin and has stired pot at Caucaus russians.

 

[Seaside]

1. You stating he is a war criminal does not make him one. No charges have been brought forth by the U.N.

2. I dont need to picture it because it happens.

Here is an entire LIST of videos of Erdogan speaking in Germany, some in front of German leaders, others of him speaking to the people, opening new Mosques and a bunch of other shit because he is a superstar there...the man that made this statement of the Armenian Genocide "We did not commit a crime, therefore we do not need to apologise"...mass murder, not a crime...



Quick now, move the goalpost...

Good post. You may be an npc but this is factual. Also Erdogan laughed at the idea of Muslim nations holding The Sudanese genocidal president Omar Bashir accountable for his crimes against christians. Were is @abiG to denounce that? That is far worse than any defensive military operation Netanyahu has ordered on gaza.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ti...laughs-off-demand-to-arrest-sudan-leader/amp/

 

[Seaside]

So a guy who had never made military-grade Sarin, and had no modern equipment, figured out how to do it in an empty building by himself, and also managed to deliver this payload from Assad's controlled military bases with Assad's equipment against Assad's enemies. Even more impressively, he managed to build a time machine, and transport himself into the past so that he could provide these weapons to ISIS in 2013 in order to carry out the Ghouta attack.

Try Googling again. This is why I won't waste my time on you. You're too simply to divine the truth in complicated matters.

His stance on israel is really bias but he has a point. I try and be as objective and non bias as possible. And the line that Assad keeps ysing chemical weapons when he knows it will bring the hammer down on him by western powers really should enter ones mind. It isnt logical

Your claims that things were launched by Assad have been completely debunked by multiple sources.

This is about the 50th source showing ISIS had chemical weapons.

Time and again your narrative was shown to be BS.

Claim is was Sarin, turns out is was chlorine.

Claim you have proof things were launched from Syrian forces. The opposite is proven.

We never even really debated the attacks. What we debated was whether a blogger has the same credibility as Seymore Herch. You insanely argued the blogger had more credibility.

There is some case argument that syria may have done 1 attacks. But all these recent ones, yeah not true.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

You are a brainwashed npc western neoliberal shill. So yeah. Good thing your side is losing.

But for the past few months ive been a typical racist Trumpster white supremacist neo-con capitalist pig....

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

Good post. You may be an npc but this is factual.

Or, you are the NPC that cant stand seeing things against your beliefs which is why I am polar opposites to you...and everyone else here since they think im a conservative for defending Trump from lies...and I was a liberal when I defend Obama from lies. I dont like lies. Hate people for legit reasons.

 

[Madmick]

Your claims that things were launched by Assad have been completely debunked by multiple sources.

This is about the 50th source showing ISIS had chemical weapons.

On the contrary, they have been verified, overwhelmingly by multiple sources; specifically multiple sources who aren't alone in the world aligned with Assad/Syria. Seymour Hersh is one guy selling rumors, and RT has been nailed to the wall fabricating blatantly false propaganda on social media. Your one source here doesn't even confirm ISIS actually had military-grade Sarin. It's just you being gullible because you want to believe.

Time and again your narrative was shown to be BS.

Claim is was Sarin, turns out is was chlorine.

There have been both Sarin and Chlorine attacks, derp. Assad will use anything he can get his hands on.

Claim you have proof things were launched from Syrian forces. The opposite is proven.

We never even really debated the attacks. What we debated was whether a blogger has the same credibility as Seymore Herch. You insanely argued the blogger had more credibility.

Yes, we did debate them, and no, in fact, the best investigative reporting (as carried out by The Intercept for example) demonstrates all contrary evidence to be easily dismantled lies:

1. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/129227041/
   
2. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/129227071/
   
3. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140360269/
4. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140535163/
5. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140538493/
6. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140538587/
   
7. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140538791/
8. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140539785/

The Russians have even tried denying that any of the attacks took place. They have also stonewalled independent investigation of the material evidence (as by the U.N.). These are the people you have chosen to believe since 2013-- you are that willfully blind:
https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140363101/

You've predicted a US invasion of Syria 4-5 times (with each attack) on your presumptuous claim that these were all false flags by the West (possibly through ISIS) intended to fabricate justification for the trespass on sovereign ground. I rejected these as nonsense. I have been right every time. You have been wrong every time.

 

[VivaRevolution]

On the contrary, they have been verified, overwhelmingly by multiple sources; specifically multiple sources who aren't alone in the world aligned with Assad/Syria. Seymour Hersh is one guy selling rumors, and RT has been nailed to the wall fabricating blatantly false propaganda on social media. Your one source here doesn't even confirm ISIS actually had military-grade Sarin. It's just you being gullible because you want to believe.

There have been both Sarin and Chlorine attacks, derp. Assad will use anything he can get his hands on.


We never even really debated the attacks. What we debated was whether a blogger has the same credibility as Seymore Herch. You insanely argued the blogger had more credibility.

Yes, we did debate them, and no, in fact, the best investigative reporting (as carried out by The Intercept for example) demonstrates all contrary evidence to be easily dismantled lies:

1. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/129227041/
   
2. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/129227071/
   
3. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140360269/
4. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140535163/
5. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140538493/
6. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140538587/
   
7. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140538791/
8. https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140539785/

The Russians have even tried denying that any of the attacks took place. They have also stonewalled independent investigation of the material evidence (as by the U.N.). These are the people you have chosen to believe since 2013-- you are that willfully blind:
https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/140363101/

You've predicted a US invasion of Syria 4-5 times (with each attack) on your presumptuous claim that these were all false flags by the West (possibly through ISIS) intended to fabricate justification for the trespass on sovereign ground. I rejected these as nonsense. I have been right every time. You have been wrong every time.[/QUOTE]

Naw man. There are a shit tonne of reports that say Obama didn't enforce that red line, because Turkey was using it's proxy forces in Syria to stage chemical weapons attacks.

 

[abiG]

WOW! Newsweek reporter tweets the unspeakable:
A national politics correspondent for Newsweek, Nina Burleigh, tweeted that Israeli- and Jewish-linked organizations — along with Israel itself — are on “the third rail of American journalism.”


The phrase “third rail” refers to the untouchable rail on mass transit systems, suggesting negative stories about Jews and Israel are too hot to handle....

The tweet was in response to a thread by author Sarah Kendzior listing several stories she said were “undercovered.” A few of the stories involved President Donald Trump and Chabad, the Hasidic outreach movement; Black Cube, a private intelligence firm that employs former agents of Israel’s Mossad spy agency; and Jeffrey Epstein, a Jewish financier and registered sex offender....
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/new...d-jewish-organizations-a-third-rail-1.6848413

Chabad? Are you kidding me? How many Americans know that word? Even after "Russian" spying!

Black cube, Epstein, LMAO!

How long does this journalist remain employed?