The Gracie Debate: "Online" vs. "Live" Training

[SBJ]

If you did not watch the video in the first post, you would have difficulty answering my questions, and therefore not qualified to participate in any form of rational discussion regarding the subject of the OP.

 

[nooper]

I think we all know who SBJ is.

 

[NateTx4112]

He is the walrus??

 

[the heed]

If you did not watch the video in the first post, you would have difficulty answering my questions, and therefore not qualified to participate in any form of rational discussion regarding the subject of the OP.

That is you
and that is how you argue...

"If I can't see you, you aren't there"

Good luck going through your life that way.

 

[NateTx4112]

He's arguing just like the Limp Irvin internet assassins argue. Oh and Justin Nero (justthetip) who is out of Gracie fighter with no relation to LI...haven't figured that one out yet.

 

[SBJ]

Haha.. Criticize and argue from a position of mass assumption and willful ignorance - Such venerable intelligence.

 

[nooper]

Haha.. Criticize and argue from a position of mass assumption and willful ignorance - Such venerable intelligence.

Not quite sure what

 

[the heed]

Haha.. Criticize and argue from a position of mass assumption and willful ignorance - Such venerable intelligence.

Thanks for proving my point

 

[junco]

There are vendors that come on here and push their products. I really appreciate the input. When someone is getting paid to promote a product we as a community can evaluate their input under that light. Common sense.

Calling someone a hater because they want to see if you have a financial intrest in pushing a product is not a legitimate response. I can promise you I dislike gracie academy more for your unscrupulous posts than anything else. It was one place on my vacation destination list (I have been to Marcelo's, Alliance ATL on vacation). It is no longer on the list due to what seems to be some shady stuff I have seen you post.

Yep, I'm in this boat as well.

 

[Ryo]

Haha.. Criticize and argue from a position of mass assumption and willful ignorance - Such venerable intelligence.

Rener and Ryron need to hire a better propaganda minister... Their current guy seems to be hurting the product more than helping...

Oh and Royce > Gracie university

 

[Alonbenav]

If you did not watch the video in the first post, you would have difficulty answering my questions, and therefore not qualified to participate in any form of rational discussion regarding the subject of the OP.

#keepitplayful

 

[LaBrian]

He's arguing just like the Limp Irvin internet assassins argue. Oh and Justin Nero (justthetip) who is out of Gracie fighter with no relation to LI...haven't figured that one out yet.

I was thinking the same thing when he posted the hater nonsense. That is always a sign of desperation.

Best I can figure about Justin is that he's a crazy person who likes to fight and just latched on the the limp thing, random internet troll basically. BTW, I just looked him up and he competed in Pans at Master 2, that means he's at least 35. Townbiz is a grown ass man, not some stupid kid. Amazing.

Yep, I'm in this boat as well.

This. I had a generally favorable opinion about the boys from Torrance till the non-stop posting about this shit. Hiring a shill, and a dim one at that to crap up the internets with your disingenuous marketing is the quickest way to convince me you are a turd.

 

[Alonbenav]

I was thinking the same thing when he posted the hater nonsense. That is always a sign of desperation.

Best I can figure about Justin is that he's a crazy person who likes to fight and just latched on the the limp thing, random internet troll basically. BTW, I just looked him up and he competed in Pans at Master 2, that means he's at least 35. Townbiz is a grown ass man, not some stupid kid. Amazing.



This. I had a generally favorable opinion about the boys from Torrance till the non-stop posting about this shit. Hiring a shill, and a dim one at that to crap up the internets with your disingenuous marketing is the quickest way to convince me you are a turd.

I'd actually be more concerned if SBJ is NOT being paid by the GA, because that means he's a lunatic.

Of course, he could clear this up with a simple yes or no answer to the question of whether or not Rorion, Rener, Ryron and the Gracie Academy pay him for his contributions to this board. I guess it's hard to keep it real outside the walls of the GA.....

 

[deadlizard]

For those who took the time and interest on being informed:

1. What are Ryron and Rener' thoughts on MAT TIME for students of GU?
2. What's the NEW BELT GRADING SYSTEM they are going to introduce?
3. What's their DREAM for GU?
4. What's something COOL that they're going to try to do next for GRACIE BREAKDOWN?

Wrong forum to be selling your products. We're serious grapplers here.

Here's a better forum:
www.wrestlingforum.com/‎

They have all your fans.

 

[Patrick F Carey]

Man, if SBJ was actually rener I'd probably want to actually read the stuff he posts

he just comes off as a paid poster, if he was actually a gracie I know I'd respect the effort he puts in more

 

[sauron0379]

I hear they are gonna start doing it for purple and brown too

 

[SBJ]

*** New GU Belt Promotion Process ***​

Gracie University "Technical Blue Belts" for Online Students​

In the video above, Ryron and Rener discuss a modification to the Gracie University belt promotion process. Effective June 1, 2014, students who complete the Gracie Combatives program from home, and pass the Blue Belt Test via the Video Evaluation Process, will earn a Gracie University Technical Blue Belt. To earn the Official Gracie Academy Blue Belt, students must pass an extended hands-on evaluation with Ryron, Rener, or an authorized Gracie Academy representative at a Certified Training Center.

As before, promotion to purple belt and brown belt require an in person evaluation with an authorized Gracie Academy representative, and black belt promotion requires successful completion of a one-week live evaluation at Gracie Academy headquarters in Torrance, California.

FAQs for the New Blue Belt Promotion Process​

​

​

1) What is the purpose of introducing the Technical Blue Belt?

The testing requirements for the Technical Blue Belt are no different than they were for the Official Blue Belt over the last five years. The only difference is after June 1, 2014, we will only award the Official Blue Belt to people who have their reflexes verified in person at an authorized CTC. In other words, the primary difference between Technical and Official Blue Belt, besides the tag on the actual belt awarded, exists only in the method of verification, not in the curriculum or techniques covered. The primary purpose of introducing the Technical Blue Belt is to encourage more Gracie University students to have their reflexes verified in person by a qualified instructor so that they can benefit from hands-on assessment and feedback.
​

2) What if I already earned my belt through Gracie University Video Evaluation Process, is it still recognized as an Official Blue Belt?

Yes, we will grandfather all Gracie University blue belts earned through video evaluation prior to June 1, 2014 as official belts without requiring live evaluation. Any video-based blue belt tests submitted by home-study students on or after June 1, 2014, will be Gracie University Technical Blue Belts.​

3) If I earn my Technical Blue Belt, how do I earn my Official Blue Belt?

When you pass the video-based blue belt tests and earn your Technical Blue Belt, you will receive detailed feedback on all your strengths and weaknesses. Once you've implemented the recommended changes, you can request a Live Evaluation at the Gracie Academy or at an authorized CTC. If you pass the test, the evaluator will award your Official Blue Belt in person. Please note that although we recommend you earn your Technical Blue Belt before testing for your Official Blue Belt, it is not required. If you think you have the reflexes and conviction necessary, you can jump straight to the Live Evaluation for Official Blue Belt consideration without having earned your Technical Blue Belt.​

4) What's the difference between the Live Evaluation and the Video Evaluation?

Although the techniques being tested are exactly the same, there are some significant differences between testing via video and testing in person. The Video Evaluation is conducted with a partner of your choosing in a controlled environment where you can repeat the test as many times as you want before you submit your videos. The Live Evaluation is conducted by an authorized evaluator who will test your timing, technique, reflexes and conviction, and you only get one shot at it.​

5) If I earn a Technical Blue Belt, am I still able to advance through the Master Cycle curriculum and work towards purple belt?

Yes. Earning the Technical Blue Belt is a perfect indicator that you have successfully completed the Gracie Combatives course, and qualifies you to begin the Master Cycle. Once you pass the Blue Belt Stripe 1 course via the Video Evaluation Process, we will send you the official BBS1 stripe for wear on your Technical Belt. After you earn all four stripes, you may take the live Purple Belt Test even though you may have never earned the Official Blue Belt.​

6) If I train at a CTC, does the new belt promotion process affect me?

No. All belt promotions issued to CTC students who complete the CTC attendance/proficiency requirements for blue belt consideration will be Official Blue Belts.​

7) If I want to apply for the Instructor Certification Program (ICP), how does the new process affect me?

The qualification requirement for ICP consideration is the same. If you score 90+ on your Gracie Combatives test and earn your Technical Blue Belt, you will have the opportunity to apply for the ICP. If accepted, and you pass Phase 2 of the ICP, you will be evaluated for your Official Blue Belt in person at the Gracie Academy as part of the Phase 3 final evaluation.​

More information will be available when the new system kicks in on June 1. Until then, keep training.

 

[lechien]

LOL.

so it continues.

Phase 2: implementation of the authorised CTC.

 

[lts5025]

*** New GU Belt Promotion Process ***​

Gracie University "Technical Blue Belts" for Online Students​

In the video above, Ryron and Rener discuss a modification to the Gracie University belt promotion process. Effective June 1, 2014, students who complete the Gracie Combatives program from home, and pass the Blue Belt Test via the Video Evaluation Process, will earn a Gracie University Technical Blue Belt. To earn the Official Gracie Academy Blue Belt, students must pass an extended hands-on evaluation with Ryron, Rener, or an authorized Gracie Academy representative at a Certified Training Center.

As before, promotion to purple belt and brown belt require an in person evaluation with an authorized Gracie Academy representative, and black belt promotion requires successful completion of a one-week live evaluation at Gracie Academy headquarters in Torrance, California.

FAQs for the New Blue Belt Promotion Process​

​

​

1) What is the purpose of introducing the Technical Blue Belt?

The testing requirements for the Technical Blue Belt are no different than they were for the Official Blue Belt over the last five years. The only difference is after June 1, 2014, we will only award the Official Blue Belt to people who have their reflexes verified in person at an authorized CTC. In other words, the primary difference between Technical and Official Blue Belt, besides the tag on the actual belt awarded, exists only in the method of verification, not in the curriculum or techniques covered. The primary purpose of introducing the Technical Blue Belt is to encourage more Gracie University students to have their reflexes verified in person by a qualified instructor so that they can benefit from hands-on assessment and feedback.
​

2) What if I already earned my belt through Gracie University Video Evaluation Process, is it still recognized as an Official Blue Belt?

Yes, we will grandfather all Gracie University blue belts earned through video evaluation prior to June 1, 2014 as official belts without requiring live evaluation. Any video-based blue belt tests submitted by home-study students on or after June 1, 2014, will be Gracie University Technical Blue Belts.​

3) If I earn my Technical Blue Belt, how do I earn my Official Blue Belt?

When you pass the video-based blue belt tests and earn your Technical Blue Belt, you will receive detailed feedback on all your strengths and weaknesses. Once you've implemented the recommended changes, you can request a Live Evaluation at the Gracie Academy or at an authorized CTC. If you pass the test, the evaluator will award your Official Blue Belt in person. Please note that although we recommend you earn your Technical Blue Belt before testing for your Official Blue Belt, it is not required. If you think you have the reflexes and conviction necessary, you can jump straight to the Live Evaluation for Official Blue Belt consideration without having earned your Technical Blue Belt.​

4) What's the difference between the Live Evaluation and the Video Evaluation?

Although the techniques being tested are exactly the same, there are some significant differences between testing via video and testing in person. The Video Evaluation is conducted with a partner of your choosing in a controlled environment where you can repeat the test as many times as you want before you submit your videos. The Live Evaluation is conducted by an authorized evaluator who will test your timing, technique, reflexes and conviction, and you only get one shot at it.​

5) If I earn a Technical Blue Belt, am I still able to advance through the Master Cycle curriculum and work towards purple belt?

Yes. Earning the Technical Blue Belt is a perfect indicator that you have successfully completed the Gracie Combatives course, and qualifies you to begin the Master Cycle. Once you pass the Blue Belt Stripe 1 course via the Video Evaluation Process, we will send you the official BBS1 stripe for wear on your Technical Belt. After you earn all four stripes, you may take the live Purple Belt Test even though you may have never earned the Official Blue Belt.​

6) If I train at a CTC, does the new belt promotion process affect me?

No. All belt promotions issued to CTC students who complete the CTC attendance/proficiency requirements for blue belt consideration will be Official Blue Belts.​

7) If I want to apply for the Instructor Certification Program (ICP), how does the new process affect me?

The qualification requirement for ICP consideration is the same. If you score 90+ on your Gracie Combatives test and earn your Technical Blue Belt, you will have the opportunity to apply for the ICP. If accepted, and you pass Phase 2 of the ICP, you will be evaluated for your Official Blue Belt in person at the Gracie Academy as part of the Phase 3 final evaluation.​

More information will be available when the new system kicks in on June 1. Until then, keep training.

You're really good at answering questions no one asked.

Now try answering the questions actually asked in this thread.

 

[Caladan]

How long until the the "technical" purple/brown/black belts?