News The GOAT Anderson Silva still to this day says BJ Penn is the best ever. Picks his 4 best fighters.

[KarateYeah]

Who doesn't like a BJ?

 

[Cranberry2.0]

Not sure if i agree.

Either way though, Penn is (or was) WAY more skilled.

You're WAY dumber than most people

 

[Cranberry2.0]

Nah braddah Penn is one of the best ever. Fought FW to HW always fought the best. Never asked for a easy fight.

2 of his 16 wins are against Paul Creighton and Joey Gilbert who had a combined record of 5-4 in mma. 2 of his wins are against Matt Hughes ( Hughes was done in the second fight) who also choked him out. One of his wins was against Pulver who he also lost to. A lot of people speak about Penn like some ancient greek text were only people in the know could understand the full spectrum of the events. I can just google his record. It leaves a lot to be desired

 

[Cranberry2.0]

Machida genuinely came in at his walk around weight. BJ was eating cheeseburgers left and right to put on extra weight. BJ was in much worse shape, and was the smaller fighter.

Not sure what your point is.

Bj penn had to stuff his face just to lose respectably to a non prime Machida

 

[EricSpider]

2 of his 16 wins are against Paul Creighton and Joey Gilbert who had a combined record of 5-4 in mma. 2 of his wins are against Matt Hughes ( Hughes was done in the second fight) who also choked him out. One of his wins was against Pulver who he also lost to. A lot of people speak about Penn like some ancient greek text were only people in the know could understand the full spectrum of the events. I can just google his record. It leaves a lot to be desired

Why are you talking like beating Matt Hughes 2 times is somehow detrimental to his record? LOL

 

[Narmorali1]

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What was the respective records at the time of the fight tho? A lot of Jones opponents started losing a lot after they fought

 

[Moonwalker95]

Anderson is too humble to call himself the GOAT. Hespect

You truly are pathetic

 

[Area809]

good chance BJ would’ve been goat had he focused on being the best lightweight he could be instead of jumping around weight classes. Easily the most skilled fighter of his day.

 

[Bearknuckle]

Its his personal opinion….

 

[Cranberry2.0]

Why are you talking like beating Matt Hughes 2 times is somehow detrimental to his record? LOL

He has 16 wins and 2 of them are against a guy he also lost against. Hughes was done before their third fight anyway. The point is that his resume is paper thin. Dennis Hellman beat Hughes twice in less than a minute combined. Penn doesn't have enough wins on his resume to be elevated to god standard by basically splitting his series with Hughes and collecting a meaningless 2nd victory over him.

 

[dracul]

BJ is probably one of the most overrated fighters on the planet
at that time competition was low
he'd get slaughtered by todays mediocre LW fighters

a win over Hughes & Sherk along with some decisions and people act as he is the mma goat

mma goat for having the biggest balls i agree
but not as a fighter

 

[pankrat]

Royce didnt have weight classes to jump he fought anyone at every weight in the early days. Come on braddah. Andersons argument is what Royce did for the sport. Im telling you MMA was around long before Royce but it was what the Gracies and Davies did that brought it out. I remember all the talk about this skinny brasilian kid beating all these braddahs in a single night.

MMA was sroung long before Royce?
You mean the Japanese in Shooto 5 years before?

 

[XociDe]

BJ Penn in his absolute prime was a freak of nature. People won't want to admit it but p4p on the skill and talent scale, he's right near the top.

If he had the mentality and discipline of a GSP, he would have been about as unbeatable as it gets and probably the actual GOAT.

Right now I'd say it's

Jones
GSP
Anderson

Whoever else, very subjective, all very close

 

[Aberlour]

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Jones figures are distorted by the fact he fought a lot of high mileage fighters right where Father Time caught up with them.

 

[Iron Nick]

You're WAY dumber than most people

How to tell someone you're in your feelings and lack any arguments without saying you're in your feelings and lack any arguments.

 

[Iron Nick]

Bullshit lol.

Big Nog is the 2nd most accomplished HW of all time.

The division he fought in shits on the garbage that Stipe competed in.

Doesn't change the fact that someone with Big Nog's skillset wouldn't be ranked at 125, 135, 145, 155, 170 and probably 185 today.

Anyone who's not blinded by nostalgia sees this.

EDIT: not ranked at 185 might be a bit too harsh.

 

[Iron Nick]

Smh no hespect for Big Nog who up until like 2006 was 33-3 with definitive wins over Mirko, Barnett, Sergei, Werdum, Hendo, Coleman, Schilt and Herring.

Doesn't change the fact that there are multiple guys today in several divisions who are much better fighters.

 

[Alphafail]

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That's some professional MMA math Usman did there.

 

[moosaev]

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So Khabib’s opponents have a better win-loss percentage than Jon Jones? Lmao, Khabib GOAT status confirmed!

 

[Bruce Lee666]