The fight that defined GSP

[r-harper-1]

Once.

Hughes faked the second hit,and admitted as such later,to get a breather.

Don’t recall him ever admitting that .... but I’ll tske your word for it

 

[r-harper-1]

Yea, there are SO many fighters that would have gotten finished after getting hit by that switch kick.
GSP was impressive to get guard and then get back to his feet.

For example, imagine Weidman taking a shot like that in the 4th round of a fight. He would have been TKO’d seconds later.

It was a glancing blow ..... I was surprised it connected enough to drop an elite fighter

 

[TheSpider]

GSP had 1 finish (vs a LW) in 9 title defenses

For comparison’s sake, Anderson had 8 finishes (6 within 2 rounds) in 10 title defenses

 

[Perrichet]

Nearly KOd lol

Retarded stans like u are hilarious. Post the GIF or vid of Shields nearly KOd

Only time Shields was nearly KOd pre Ellensburger was the 1st round against Hendo

What you laughing at?

He got rocked by a headkick

 

[tenniswhiz]

It was a glancing blow ..... I was surprised it connected enough to drop an elite fighter

It most certainly was not.

But I can see how it’s hard to tell how much damage a kick has done sometimes.
JDS’s final kick on Hunt looked like JDS’s calf barely touched the top of Hunt’s head.
Gonzaga’s head kick on Cro Cop didn’t look like it connected very well.
It’s hard to tell with head kicks.

 

[thewilks]

????
Lol- Bising appreciates the facts and figures but at the end of the day, what was his % in " relevant " fights ?
What 31 % ?

He caught lightning in a bottle with rockhold ( which was validated with his 3 fights after that ). He got a sympathy injury call up....and made the most of it.

Agree to disagree Franklin. And I'm 100% positive the only fact Bisping appreciates is the fact that he has a UFC Championship Belt mounted on his wall, and he's probably staring at it right now with his hot wife, while we crunch his statistics on Sherdog.

You can't land that many strikes, a number that almost doubles mostly everyone else in the division, and not be a great striker. If Bisping wasn't a talented striker, he surely would have been out-struck, or frequently KO'd while throwing upwards of 300 strikes in some fights. If you are throwing any kind of high volume and not getting constantly tagged, countered, and KO'd..it's because you are a talented striker.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

What a spectacularly shitty thread.

The Quarantine has brought out a lot of Anti GSP knobs..

 

[JoeganMoldberg]

In context of elite middleweight strikers ?
No.
As a UFC caliber fighter ? Yes....to a degree ( he always brought it and was tough to best unless he fought someone who he was suppose to lose to or considered even - going in)

Look what 48 year old Dan Henderson did to him in 2nd fight. That was not supposed to go down that way.

Look what bjj practitioner Thales Leites did to him in a 25 minute walk down split before he fought a past it Anderson Silva ( which was razor close - ping won but also the one who took the damage ).

Jesus, He eeked by CB Dolloway ( like alot of his UFC decision wins).

You mean Dan Henderson, one of the most effective and dangerous punchers in the history of MMA? With a long list of devastating finishes against some of the best fighters in the sport spanning 3 weight classes...

Thales Leites is an MMA fighter with decades of experience in striking, having fought some dangerous strikers and only being stopped by strikes once in his entire career. He's fought strikers such as Hector Lombard, Anderson Silva, Nate Marquart, Drew Mcfrederies and Mousasi and rarely has he even been rocked in any of those fights. To label him as simply a "jiujitsu practitioner" shows you're biased and are just trying to discredit GSPs stoppage win over a much larger opponent.

 

[TheEG]

GSP did plenty of striking after the Serra fight. GSP outstruck diaz, BJ Penn, Dan Hardy, Jon Fitch, Jake Shields, Mike Bisping, Josh koscheck. This was impressive in it's own time.

GSP didn't strike very much with alves because he had such a large advantage over him on the ground and we saw Alves get taken down by Hughes and Karo just before. Also GSP took down Condit because condit had poor TDD and was dangerous on the feet.

And aside from the knockdown, he thoroughly outstruck Condit, too.

 

[JoshR86]

He definitely was less interested in a striking match after getting TKO’d. That being said, if you can win in a way that causes the least amount of damage, you should. Also as accomplished as GSP is inside the ring, i’m just as big of a fan, if not bigger, of him outside the ring. Just all class.

He beat Kos standing....

 

[burningspear]

He got gun shy - hard.

 

[Franklin U.]

Agree to disagree Franklin. And I'm 100% positive the only fact Bisping appreciates is the fact that he has a UFC Championship Belt mounted on his wall, and he's probably staring at it right now with his hot wife, while we crunch his statistics on Sherdog.

You can't land that many strikes, a number that almost doubles mostly everyone else in the division, and not be a great striker. If Bisping wasn't a talented striker, he surely would have been out-struck, or frequently KO'd while throwing upwards of 300 strikes in some fights. If you are throwing any kind of high volume and not getting constantly tagged, countered, and KO'd..it's because you are a talented striker.

Bisping was obviously ufc caliber and obviously a talented striker.....to what tier, well, that's where " context" and " on paper " tell their own stories. This where my adjectives take a different route. Unfortunately ( and I'm just calling it for what it is), Bisping out striking mid tier middles like Rivera, a mayhem with a belly who had no business in the octagon and the jason days of the world fluff up those numbers your talking about -* context * and rarely finished any of these guys he was a significant favorite over.

This is why hes 0 for 7 in contender fights( past his prime Andy wasnt a breakthrough or a contender fight. Chris got hurt , Mike is a name/ draw who happened to be on a rather weak 3 fight streak and got call and WAS VERY fortunate for how things played out for him). Again , his behavior as " champ" and the following 3( and his last) fights validates everything I say.

The truth of the matter is - once SFORCE middles came over, Bisping went flying down the pecking order of the 185 division. Tim Kennedy, single handily, kind of placed Mike where is rightful place was ( just outside top 10....maybe #10).
Theres no shame in that but the way hes talked about- ANYTIME - in his career is just not indicative of all the fights I've watched.

So that UFC belt on the wall just proves that winning the UFC title isnt the win all be all..... and hes not alone in that company.

BTW, I have a super hot wife myself....no belt but a big check on the gal.
This is a fight forum - good for him , no need to mention that.

Mike was a very good/ solid fighter. I dont consider him UFC champ material ( even though he owns one). That's just one mans opinion. Bisping has a big following that would disagree with me but I just dont care. I form my own opinion on the 21 years I've been watching.

 

[Tabarnakos]

I agree. The Fitch fight went to decision and was very fun to watch. Fitch was so durable in his prime.

The Fitch fight is my favorite GSP UFC performance. Fitch was on a 16 fights win streak when they fought and looked unstoppable with his wrestling. GSP made him look like an amateur with a 3-0 record both on the feet and on the ground. It was impressive (and yes i know that Fitch never had a very good striking game but still)

It was a very dominant and entertaining performance.

 

[Franklin U.]

You mean Dan Henderson, one of the most effective and dangerous punchers in the history of MMA? With a long list of devastating finishes against some of the best fighters in the sport spanning 3 weight classes...

Thales Leites is an MMA fighter with decades of experience in striking, having fought some dangerous strikers and only being stopped by strikes once in his entire career. He's fought strikers such as Hector Lombard, Anderson Silva, Nate Marquart, Drew Mcfrederies and Mousasi and rarely has he even been rocked in any of those fights. To label him as simply a "jiujitsu practitioner" shows you're biased and are just trying to discredit GSPs stoppage win over a much larger opponent.

* context* 48 year old hendo who , arguably, won fight lol. Leites took the beating of his career against mousasi ( ask thales himself ) .In fact mma math is useless EXCEPT a few instances. Mousasi was supposed to mollywhop Bisping in London but Anderson name came up and Michael quickly avoided original opponent. However they kept Gegard on card as co and absolutely wrecked the same guy who walked down Michael bisping for 25 minutes in a split that couldve gone either way a few months prior. THAT TRIANGULATION speaks volumes.

Henderson is a legend and one of the goats but to reference that time in his career against bisping and the way it unfolded - ARE U KIDDING ME ?

 

[JoeganMoldberg]

* context* 48 year old hendo who , arguably, won fight lol. Leites took the beating of his career against mousasi ( ask thales himself ) .In fact mma math is useless EXCEPT a few instances. Mousasi was supposed to mollywhop Bisping in London but Anderson name came up and Michael quickly avoided original opponent. However they kept Gegard on card as co and absolutely wrecked the same guy who walked down Michael bisping for 25 minutes in a split that couldve gone either way a few months prior. THAT TRIANGULATION speaks volumes.

Henderson is a legend and one of the goats but to reference that time in his career against bisping and the way it unfolded - ARE U KIDDING ME ?

Henderson was still viciously KOing fighters leading up to his rematch with Bisping.

Thales Leites wasn't stopped by strikes until his 36th MMA fight.

You already admitted in previous posts you're quite biased on this subject so I don't really take anything you say seriously as an MMA fan. You dont look at any facts objectively and it's very obvious that you will twist the truth and go to great lengths to try to discredit some of the greatest fighters in MMA history. It's actually sad to see you can't just enjoy the fights like a normal fan.

 

[BBMN]

Guys remember that georges lost two rounds on the feet to jake sheilds. Let that sink in.

Can it sink in as far as Jake's knuckle sunk into GSP's fucking eye socket? GSP suffered a scratched cornea. It was not a onetime accident. It was part of the game plan. Jake went for the eyes over and over and over. What a fucking shit stick.The worst poke was either in R1 or R2, so GSP was half blind for the majority of the fight. He also stuffed every one of Jake's take downs.

Let that sink in.

 

[gono btw]

The moment that defined No Rush happened in his corner at the end of the 1st Rd, in the 1st BJ fight.

 

[The Fat Mexican]

GSP thought he was a solid striker, he also thought Matt Serra was a big can and decided he will play around for a round, to test his striking skills. He didn't go for a single take down, he thought this fight is too easy and a good opportunity to test his striking skills, maybe get a nice KO highlight.



He never fought on his feet again

Haha gtfo, he won multiple fights after the Serra fight with his striking buddy. He won against Koscheck with his jab alone

 

[knock_you_out]

No.

 

[Franklin U.]

Henderson was still viciously KOing fighters leading up to his rematch with Bisping.

Thales Leites wasn't stopped by strikes until his 36th MMA fight.

You already admitted in previous posts you're quite biased on this subject so I don't really take anything you say seriously as an MMA fan. You dont look at any facts objectively and it's very obvious that you will twist the truth and go to great lengths to try to discredit some of the greatest fighters in MMA history. It's actually sad to see you can't just enjoy the fights like a normal fan.

" twist the truth" - you're out of your mind and me admitting biases has nothing to do with the crutch of the way I process things and my OPINIONS.

LOL- yeah Dan was 2-6 before knocking out the 4-33 Lombard WTF. I didnt even mention the word " coward " and the 3 top contenders bisping refused to give title shot to before convincing Dsna on avenging the most embarrassing ko in UFC history. White had little choice cause he cant make someone fight someone else. If Bisping wasnt a draw and didnt have sympathy thrown his way , he wouldve been stripped of title. IVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT IN THE 21 YEARS WATCHING THIS SPORT.

" FACTS" " OBJECTIVELY " - dont push me, bub. I dont like excoriating fans cause they're entitled to their opinion.Ive said absolutely nothing " UNREASONABLE " as my God given opinion.