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Law The fbi set to hand over incriminating Biden doc to maga tomorrow

Come on bro. I love you, but don't be this gullible. You think the Trump endorsement was a coincidence?

The document the Republicans have been making fuss over is a raw intelligence collection. We get them all the time. It is an unverified claim from one person that there was a money order of $5 million between Burisma and Biden. Now, ignoring the fact that this is a pretty stupid claim, all parties agree that there is zero to substantiate it. It has about as much weight as me claiming, with nothing else, that politician X is on the take. The reason these documents remain classified, is because they are unverified junk. So republicans suggesting that the FBI is protecting Biden, is retarded. The FBI has made this document available for months, and any republican who goes down to a secure location and reads it comes away with a lot of that fire and brimstone missing.

Compare that to Trump. Regardless of what you think at this point, there are some undeniable facts that make his case much worse. 1) Trump signed a sworn affidavit that he had searched high and low and returned all classified material to the relevant parties; 2) We know he lied and over 100+ documents were found on his property.
Can't you see the distinction here? For Biden, you have one completely unverified source making a claim no one can substantiate (republicans have been trying this with Burisma for years); and for Trump you have him caught dead to rights with the documents themselves laying about his house.
Then, look at their denials. Do you really think trump looks better? Biden has maintained the same stance this whole time. He never took money from Burisma. Certainly not a fucking money order. And to date, no one has been able to show anything outside of shady parties making claims no one can back up. Conversely, look at Trumps denials: First it was the feds were lying and there were no documents. Then when they posted pics of the actual documents for evidence, Trump claimed the FBI planted them all. Then when that didn't stick, because the notion that dozens of guys conducting a search warrant in his house with his lawyers and staff present, were just blatantly planting evidence, then it changed to a legally horseshit excuse of "well I can declassify anything I want without ever telling anyone even when I'm no longer president." And then we got trump on tape, in his own words, talking about how he still has more classified documents.

Now with all that, you can't think it's the Trump indictment thats the actual distraction right? Not the republicans who spend months talking up FBI whistleblowers, only to have them be agents who got fired for stupid shit, like in one place leaking evidence to fucking Project Veritas? Then when that failed, we move onto this unsubstantiated document. And all of this happened when we knew trump was about to get indicted.

Please tell me you're able to see which side is slinging shit at the wall so that when trump finally got the hammer, his supporters could jump up and scream whataboutism.
Good points, I was just throwing that theory out there of the timing. Trump appears to broke the law for sure and so has others when handling the classified documents. Trump lied more about it as he does lie, so it seems worse. I'm ok if Trump goes to jail but I want to see equal treatment, it seems more time and resources are spent on Trump compared to how others mishandled classified information and of course Trump is going to say he declassified all the documents leaving the white house and he misspoke on tape. . I want DeSantis as the nominee so it's better if Trump is out of the picture.

The obstruction charges may stick, it's weird they took pics of the folders and put it out in the public they didn't do that for Pence or Biden. But ok, I think they might have a case saying Trump knowingly hiding the material instead of accidently like Biden, Pence, Clinton etc.

As far as the raw intel, didn't that helped kicked off a Russia investigation for Trump right ? or one of the embers for that fire. We will see if anything turns out with Joe, I wouldn't put past Hunter using Joe's name in criminal matters for money that's doesn't mean Joe is guilty based off that. But at the end of the day it's about hard evidence.

I hope things are good your way bro , don't work so hard. I am still looking to go back to the Middle East just waiting for a great opportunity.
 
Biden can't get arrested right now, I don't think. He'd need to get impeached by the House and then removed by the Senate first. I guess, it's possible though.

I'd bet against an impeachment. If there's anyone we can be really sure is clean, I think it's Biden. So the impeachment would have to be based on something fake and rely on Republicans being partisan. But for them to actually proceed with it, they'd have to basically admit that they have nothing and count on almost 100% of Republicans in the House to go along with it. I think 90%-plus would, but not enough. What I think is more likely is that they'll say that finding serious evidence of misconduct is just around the corner, and we need your donations to make it happen, and they'll hope that Biden is tarred by multiple allegations even if none of them turn out to be true.
 
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Good points, I was just throwing that theory out there of the timing. Trump appears to broke the law for sure and so has others when handling the classified documents. Trump lied more about it as he does lie, so it seems worse.

Well it makes it a whole different crime. Lying in a sworn affidavit about whether or not you have classified documents at your house is a crime, and is something that Biden hasn't even been alleged to have done.

I'm ok if Trump goes to jail but I want to see equal treatment, it seems more time and resources are spent on Trump compared to how others mishandled classified information and of course Trump is going to say he declassified all the documents leaving the white house and he misspoke on tape.

But where do you want to see more, and of what? The allegations against Biden are vague and unsubstantiated. What are investigators supposed to move on? None of the republicans are suggesting any action that makes since in light of this single source.


The obstruction charges may stick, it's weird they took pics of the folders and put it out in the public they didn't do that for Pence or Biden.

Probably because Trump straight up called them liars, said they planted evidence, and then claimed they were all acting illegally and the agency should be disbanded. I think it's fair to post a picture of the documents to show he's lying. I'm sure if Biden lied and said it was all and illegal ploy to frame him, they'd probably come out and rebut that too.

I hope things are good your way bro , don't work so hard. I am still looking to go back to the Middle East just waiting for a great opportunity.

Good luck bro. How are the rotations right now? What kinda work do they still have going on? Hope all goes well and you find something good.
 
I'd bet against an impeachment. If there's anyone we can be really sure is clean, I think it's Biden. So the impeachment would have to be based on something fake and rely on Republicans being partisan. But for them to actual proceed with it, they'd have to basically admit that they have nothing and count on almost 100% of Republicans in the House to go along with it. I think 90%-plus would, but not enough. What I think is more likely is that they'll say that finding serious evidence of misconduct is just around the corner, and we need your donations to make it happen, and they'll hope that Biden is tarred by multiple allegations even if none of them turn out to be true.

From an article I found:

“The FBI created this record based on information from a credible informant who has worked with the FBI for over a decade and paid six figures.”

Comer claimed that the unnamed informant had “first-hand conversations with the foreign national” who is alleged to have bribed Biden and that former Attorney General William Barr said the record was given to the U.S. attorney in Delaware for that office's investigation of the Biden family’s business dealings.

Okay so it's an informant's testimony so far who had a conversation with a foreign national that claims to have bribed Biden. Ya, they're going to need more than that to get an impeachment in the House, let's see what else they have.
 
I'd bet against an impeachment. If there's anyone we can be really sure is clean, I think it's Biden. So the impeachment would have to be based on something fake and rely on Republicans being partisan. But for them to actual proceed with it, they'd have to basically admit that they have nothing and count on almost 100% of Republicans in the House to go along with it. I think 90%-plus would, but not enough. What I think is more likely is that they'll say that finding serious evidence of misconduct is just around the corner, and we need your donations to make it happen, and they'll hope that Biden is tarred by multiple allegations even if none of them turn out to be true.
Wait... you think that Biden is clean??
You don't think he's been getting funneled money by Ukraine and China??
The "10% for the Big Guy" isn't referring to Joe Biden in Hunters laptop??
I mean, how gullible are you guys?... no need to answer. You've all proved it during covid.
 
Okay so it's an informant's testimony so far who had a conversation with a foreign national that claims to have bribed Biden. Ya, they're going to need more than that to get an impeachment in the House, let's see what else they have.
They impeached Trump for literally asking Ukraine to investigate the bribary scheme.

You don't think firsthand testimony would be enough to impeach Biden?
 
They impeached Trump for literally asking Ukraine to investigate the bribary scheme.

You don't think firsthand testimony would be enough to impeach Biden?

Along with the firsthand testimony, the House had the transcript of the call

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/25/trump-ukraine-phone-call-transcript-text-pdf-1510770

In this case, the House could subpoena the informant and ask him to testify that this foreign national made that claim, and yes, this could be proven to be true. After that, how could it be demonstrated that the foreign National was telling the truth.
 
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Along with the firsthand testimony, the House had the transcript of the call

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/25/trump-ukraine-phone-call-transcript-text-pdf-1510770

In this case, the House could subpoena the informant and ask him to testify that this foreign national made that claim, and yes, this could be proven to be true. After that, how could it be demonstrated that the foreign National was telling the truth.

If there were an actual money transfer, that would be pretty easy for law enforcement to prove. It would have been proved already by now. Possible that the informant really heard something, but I think basically zero chance that it's a true claim.
 
In that interview with Joe, he states that it was the Obama administration that authorized the request for the firing of Shokin.

"They were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, ... we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, ‘You have no authority. You’re not the president.’ … I said, call him. I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars.
They're pushing this and a supposed "credible tip" and are complaining about actual indictments being served getting more coverage. They should get bigger news if they want to dominate the headlines. They always have their victim complex complaints that the MSM won't push their propaganda to fall back on. "It's true I tell you, true!!!"
 
They're pushing this and a supposed "credible tip" and are complaining about actual indictments being served getting more coverage. They should get bigger news if they want to dominate the headlines. They always have their victim complex complaints that the MSM won't push their propaganda to fall back on. "It's true I tell you, true!!!"

What they need to do is get some sort of corroborating evidence. Yes, a foreign National could have made a claim, or that Joe is the "Big Guy", but without anything more, it's going to be hard to convince anyone that's not partisan (either way).
 
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Come on bro. I love you, but don't be this gullible. You think the Trump endorsement was a coincidence?

The document the Republicans have been making fuss over is a raw intelligence collection. We get them all the time. It is an unverified claim from one person that there was a money order of $5 million between Burisma and Biden. Now, ignoring the fact that this is a pretty stupid claim, all parties agree that there is zero to substantiate it. It has about as much weight as me claiming, with nothing else, that politician X is on the take. The reason these documents remain classified, is because they are unverified junk. So republicans suggesting that the FBI is protecting Biden, is retarded. The FBI has made this document available for months, and any republican who goes down to a secure location and reads it comes away with a lot of that fire and brimstone missing.

Compare that to Trump. Regardless of what you think at this point, there are some undeniable facts that make his case much worse. 1) Trump signed a sworn affidavit that he had searched high and low and returned all classified material to the relevant parties; 2) We know he lied and over 100+ documents were found on his property.
Can't you see the distinction here? For Biden, you have one completely unverified source making a claim no one can substantiate (republicans have been trying this with Burisma for years); and for Trump you have him caught dead to rights with the documents themselves laying about his house.
Then, look at their denials. Do you really think trump looks better? Biden has maintained the same stance this whole time. He never took money from Burisma. Certainly not a fucking money order. And to date, no one has been able to show anything outside of shady parties making claims no one can back up. Conversely, look at Trumps denials: First it was the feds were lying and there were no documents. Then when they posted pics of the actual documents for evidence, Trump claimed the FBI planted them all. Then when that didn't stick, because the notion that dozens of guys conducting a search warrant in his house with his lawyers and staff present, were just blatantly planting evidence, then it changed to a legally horseshit excuse of "well I can declassify anything I want without ever telling anyone even when I'm no longer president." And then we got trump on tape, in his own words, talking about how he still has more classified documents.

Now with all that, you can't think it's the Trump indictment thats the actual distraction right? Not the republicans who spend months talking up FBI whistleblowers, only to have them be agents who got fired for stupid shit, like in one place leaking evidence to fucking Project Veritas? Then when that failed, we move onto this unsubstantiated document. And all of this happened when we knew trump was about to get indicted.

Please tell me you're able to see which side is slinging shit at the wall so that when trump finally got the hammer, his supporters could jump up and scream whataboutism.
They complain about the Steele Dossier but this unverified "credible tip" is what they want dominating the news cycle. Now they have the document so let's see how long it takes the MAGAsight committee to secure an impeachment.
 
Actually he was impeached for trying to get dirt on a political opponent while witholding military aid.



Thats called extortion.
This is completely wrong. He wasn't impeached for any of that.

However, we do have Biden, on tape, admitting to withholding federal aid if they didn't fire the prosecutor investigating the bribery scheme.
 

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