Crime FBI files show targeting of Catholic groups was bigger than Biden-era officials acknowledged

[scoopj]

Iraq bless.

That sweet, sweet Tigris and Euphrates water.

 

[Cid]

Missouri Synod FTW, lol. As a born and raised former Lutheran (ELCA tho), that's beautiful to hear and there's plenty more they'd do well to adopt. In any case, it's GOATed doctrine of first century origin from a pillar of the Church and Apostle to the Gentiles; further solidified and promoted by the greatest of all theologians (Saint Augustine) between Athanasius and Aquinas.




You'd hope there would be some happy middle ground because on the otherhand, a lot of cradle Catholics seem to be simply going through the motions. The number of American Catholics who don't believe in the real presence of the Eucharist (the pinnacle of what the whole fucking purpose of the mass is working towards) is damning and they desperately need OCIA courses quick fast. Like, yesterday.



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A lot of people born into it don't have a perspective on how unbelievably rich the doctrine and liturgy actually is compared to barren Prot wasteland of an informal, individualistic, non-liturgical, personal conversion model. Okay, whatever. Except that extends to personal discernment and interpretation of scripture. A lot of them essentially end up worshiping a book, as if the Bible dropped out of the sky. It did not, and Jesus did not leave a book. He left a Church. The book was circulated, compiled, and formally canonized by the Church to be analyzed and interpreted by the Magisterium and Doctors of the Church.

I saw that Trans bullshit in the answer so I knew it was wrong.

Woke commies trying to gay up the church with transubstantiation lies for their gay agenda.

Not on my watch. No siree bob.

 

[Whippy McGee]

The whole thing reads like a jumbled mess of semantics ripe for misinterpreation, but yes I get that the agency's focus is/was not on Catholics or even necessarily RTC's but losers attempting to engage and showing interest in the latter, correct? I'd still maintain that Protestant evangelicals and fundamentalists are a bigger threat, lol. They're also a bigger threat to Catholics than government agencies, non-Christian religious groups, or any sort of irreligious liberal cohort. Check the prot fundamentalist pastor openly cheering on the destruction of a Catholic church.



@milliniar mentioned Surebros previously making arguments that Catholics aren't even Christians. The hostility and hatred is strong, and that's because they have an entirely different set of beliefs and practices that range from the merely superficial to irreconcilably significant on a whole range of issues, including but not limited to authority, afterlife, salvation, sacraments, scripture, saints, symbols, sacred art and music. It's practically a different religion with not a whole lot in common beyond this.

Catholics are the only Christians with "authority", unless you believe in the LDS religion who accept the Catholic Church as the "authority", but then believe they were granted it divinely and there is "more to the story". Faith-wise, any church outside the Catholic Church has no authority for their proclamations and claims as a Church... and yes Mormons are Christians too.

While Catholic, I don't talk down to or believe I am better than other Christians. I believe they find the religion that works for them, but that they often overstep with their claims that others will, "burn in hell". They, nor their religion, nor mine decides that... it's out of our mortal hands. I don't believe a villager in China that lived his whole life as a good man is going to hell. I converted as an adult and that was a big question I had. The priest nailed it said the Catholic faith believes he can go to heaven if he had no exposure to Christianity, but was a good person. I am guessing that what Purgatory is all about? That was my biggest road block.

On the Holy Trinity... it's not supposed to be understood. It's part of faith and I think you know that and got it right.

 

[Deorum]

Catholics are the only Christians with "authority", unless you believe in the LDS religion who accept the Catholic Church as the "authority", but then believe they were granted it divinely and there is "more to the story". Faith-wise, any church outside the Catholic Church has no authority for their proclamations and claims as a Church... and yes Mormons are Christians too.

While Catholic, I don't talk down to or believe I am better than other Christians. I believe they find the religion that works for them, but that they often overstep with their claims that others will, "burn in hell". They, nor their religion, nor mine decides that... it's out of our mortal hands. I don't believe a villager in China that lived his whole life as a good man is going to hell. I converted as an adult and that was a big question I had. The priest nailed it said the Catholic faith believes he can go to heaven if he had no exposure to Christianity, but was a good person. I am guessing that what Purgatory is all about? That was my biggest road block.

On the Holy Trinity... it's not supposed to be understood. It's part of faith and I think you know that and got it right.

All Men Created Equal. Churches, Not So Much.





The Roman Catholic Church traces its history to Jesus Christ and the Apostles. Over the course of centuries, it developed a highly sophisticated theology and an elaborate organizational structure headed by the Papacy and Magisterium. At least in an inchoate form, all elements of Catholicity—authority, doctrine, universality—are evident in the New Testament. The Acts of the Apostles begins with a depiction of the demoralized band of the disciples of  Jesus in Jerusalem, but by the end of its account of the first decades, the Christian community has developed nascent criteria for determining the difference between apostolic (authentic) and inauthentic teaching and behavior. It has also moved beyond the geographic borders of Judaism, as the dramatic sentence of the closing chapter announces: “And thus we came to Rome” (Acts 28:14).

 

[Deorum]

I saw that Trans bullshit in the answer so I knew it was wrong.

Woke commies trying to gay up the church with transubstantiation lies for their gay agenda.

Not on my watch. No siree bob.

It's one of the greatest things about the doctrine, lol. For the most part, the magisterium doesn't endorse biblical literalism; you won't find it promoting things like young earth creationism or twisting itself into a pretzel denying the theory of evolution (the Big Bang Theory is the work of a Belgian priest and the father of genetics was an Austrian friar), but it does believe in the supernatural real presence of Christ in the Eucharist and it's the most significant reward of attending mass.

 

[TRYHARD 2001]

But the headlines confirm something Trump has said about Christians. Except we've had people even on the dog argue Catholics aren't Christian

Bullshit. There's no way. The SD is stupid, but surely not that stupid.