The Decline in quality of UFC PPVs and events [POLL]

[TempleoftheDog]

So much negativity. Do you people go through your existence searching for nothing more than the lows of life?

Like this gives you a way to shit on everything.. So you take that easy route. Mob mentality.

You people can’t be happy, if this is who you are in real life. You don’t have to cheerlead. But the glass is half full side is probably happier.

Whatever.

 

[StonedLemur]

If you can get 3 or 4 fights that interests you, it's a good event. Expecting a banger stacked card every time is unreasonable imo.

Most cards throughout history (As long as I remember) have been like that. Stacked cards have always been few and far between in relation to the UFC..

Spoiler

The card in question (Sphere) has 4 fights the interests me..

O'Malley vs Merab
Ortega vs Lopes
Rosas JR vs Aori
Grasso vs Valentina

(in that order)

Good enough. Look forward to it..

Look at you jockeying for a mod position with this diplomatic reply...you sly dog sir lol

 

[Reach4theSky]

Look at you jockeying for a mod position with this diplomatic reply...you sly dog sir lol

LOL

 

[StonedLemur]

I enjoy every fight night and every PPV...even the bad ones.
But then again I have been watching since before we had choices.

Like @TempleoftheDog said, it seems like all that is looked for is lows, rather than seeing the good in front of us.

I remember me and my friends dying for more cards per year, and now we got em and all everybody does is bitch about it.

"Too many fighters on the roster"
"This card sucks on paper, yet delivered in spades"...
"This card looks like gold on paper...but it barely pulled my dick" lol.


If we went back to the way it used be some of you guys would have a conniption fit.
I have a hard time understanding all the anger surrounding this particular subject.

If you think a card sucks... don't watch it.
The PPVs have been fine overall, but that's just the way I see it.


Love you bastads, take a nice ice bath and cool out

 

[StonedLemur]

LOL

Lol you know I love you.

 

[skylolow]

I feel quality has always varied through the years. They all can't be homeruns.

I think its the saturation of the events that has caused fans to be more dismissive of events. It's literally almost weekly events so it is very easy to simply not care as much from event to event and not so much of the overall quality of the event on paper. Anything of too much will become stale for anyone no matter how good it is. You eat steak everyday and within months you won't be to excited having a great steak at a great steak house you been to 40 times in the last 5 months. It isn't the restaurant that changed, it's your point of view that has changed.

 

['Suga Daddy']

The Conor fight falling through was devastating. Other that that most of the big fights seem to be happening in the back half of the year.

How on earth was it devastating? Got a better headliner in Pereira Prochazka 2. Anyone who wants to watch Conor fight anymore has to just be obsessed with hype and not actual high level talent and the excitement that stems from that.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

The UFC just has to put on shows regardless of quality (in the short term anyway). It's ESPN/Disney that left making profit or losing money depending on the actual buy rates of the ppv. But if they are constantly losing money because ppv numbers aren't good they won't renew with the UFC. If they don't renew then we'll know the numbers are trash and the long term consequences of quantity over quality.

 

[Istryker]

UFC has been below average af for about 3-4 years now. There's some special fighters sprinkled in but the product is declining. Boxing has been way better for me recently.

 

[Cooliox]

I think 300 was amazing on paper, So I'm at odds with the base of this discussion.

We're at the point now where a card with 12 current or former champions in it is mid as fuck on paper. Can't make this shit up

Like I said, it ended up being a great card, but by no means was it amazing when it was announced.

The co-main and main event took ages to get announced, because everything the ufc was working towards was falling apart. Dana couldn’t get any of the big fights he tried to book. He himself admitted to this.

They put Jamahal f’n Hill in the main-event of ufc 300. I don’t know how anyone in their right mind could consider this to be something spectacular. Dude will never headline another ufc ppv as the main-event player.

The BMF fight was getting a lot of Flak too.

Again, both these fights ended up delivering. So fans consider UFC 300 a great card. But the sentiment BEFORE the ppv, was that this was a disappointment.

 

[Istryker]

How on earth was it devastating? Got a better headliner in Pereira Prochazka 2. Anyone who wants to watch Conor fight anymore has to just be obsessed with hype and not actual high level talent and the excitement that stems from that.

Jiri already got stopped by Alex that was not a better fight

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The Conor fight falling through was devastating. Other that that most of the big fights seem to be happening in the back half of the year.

Yup this has been an awful year for UFC and MMA in general

 

[RockyLockridge]

Like I said, it ended up being a great card, but by no means was it amazing when it was announced.

The co-main and main event took ages to get announced, because everything the ufc was working towards was falling apart. Dana couldn’t get any of the big fights he tried to book. He himself admitted to this.

They put Jamahal f’n Hill in the main-event of ufc 300. I don’t know how anyone in their right mind could consider this to be something spectacular. Dude will never headline another ufc ppv as the main-event player.

The BMF fight was getting a lot of Flak too.

Again, both these fights ended up delivering. So fans consider UFC 300 a great card. But the sentiment BEFORE the ppv, was that this was a disappointment.

I was never disapointed, every single fight on that card could have headlined a fightnight at the bare minimum.

On paper top to bottom it was better than 100 or 200.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

I feel quality has always varied through the years. They all can't be homeruns.

I think its the saturation of the events that has caused fans to be more dismissive of events. It's literally almost weekly events so it is very easy to simply not care as much from event to event and not so much of the overall quality of the event on paper. Anything of too much will become stale for anyone no matter how good it is. You eat steak everyday and within months you won't be to excited having a great steak at a great steak house you been to 40 times in the last 5 months. It isn't the restaurant that changed, it's your point of view that has changed.

Imagine going to the steak house 40 times in 5 months and you notice that when you first started eating there you had a solid dry aged medium rare steak reverse seared cooked in seasoned garlic truffle butter with asparagus and a loaded baked potato for $45 but after 5 months you're getting a regular well done pan fried steak with french fries, coke and A1 sauce for $65.

Not only is the oversaturation a problem but the quality of fighters has gone down with the expansion of the roster. The roster has way too many guys on it that should be in the regional circuits still imo. The UFC should be for established combat athletes not prospects.

 

[Savage]

I guess you didn’t watch back when UFC 33 came out. I think they’ve gotten better.

 

[Cooliox]

The just has to put on shows regardless of quality in the short term. It's ESPN/Disney that left making or losing. But if they are constantly losing money because ppv numbers aren't good they won't renew with the UFC. If they don't renew then we'll know the numbers are trash.

No one has renewed with the UFC.

They all realized that they got played.

Fox went with WWE rather than renewing UFC.

Reebok didn’t even consider renewing.

Reports stated that ESPN execs were pissed with how the UFC played them during the Pandemic with the sub par fight island cards.

Let’s see what happens at the end.

Fact is UFC got nowhere near what they were anticipating from Fox for a renewal.
They got lowballed so bad that they had to sign their ppv revenue away just to get a decent offering from ESPN.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

I guess you didn’t watch back when UFC 33 came out. I think they’ve gotten better.

The UFC really had some dark days between Royce winning the title and Dana White getting his mob friends to buy the UFC

 

[ultra321]

Insert UFC is Dying Blah Blah Blah Here....

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

when volume increases quality decreases.

cut back on volume and quality will increase.

Very true, I agree with this. There is just far too many fighters on UFC roster now, and there is so many mediocre fighters because of it, you can't have 700 amazing fighters. They have to legally owe them fights, 3 per year or more, and because of that we get the worst of the worst constantly fighting

One of the biggest reasons for the tons of mediocre fighters in UFC is DWCS, they just sign whoever wins or "performs good" on that and most of them have virtually no experience and have done nothing, Dana is just forced to sign whoever wins in fights that are 6-4 vs 3-3. Yes I know everyone will say Sean O'Malley came from DWCS, and yup he is very good and skilled, however for every 1 Sean there are 10 crap fighters UFC signed from that show, most of them have been cut ages ago because they couldn't win, there were much more Juan Adams from DWCS than Sean O'Malleys. Its hurt the roster badly.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

No one has renewed with the UFC.

They all realized that they got played.

Fox went with WWE rather than renewing UFC.

Reebok didn’t even consider renewing.

Reports stated that ESPN execs were pissed with how the UFC played them during the Pandemic with the sub par fight island cards.

Let’s see what happens at the end.

Fact is UFC got nowhere near what they were anticipating from Fox for a renewal.
They got lowballed so bad that they had to sign their ppv revenue away just to get a decent offering from ESPN.

Yep I agree totally. When fox put in their rebid it was ridiculously low like they were saying to the UFC "hey we really don't want to be partners with you anymore but if you cut us a ridiculous discount then I guess we can still work together."

Reebok lost money on the sponsorship deal. No one bought UFC inspired Reebok apparel.

And I heard the same thing about ESPN. They haven't been happy with the UFC in a while. They were expecting Japanese A5 dried aged ribeye and are paying for it but are getting nearly expired dollar tree skirt steak

 

[sdpdude9]

1/3 are Stacked
1/3 have a few solid fights
1/3 are a title fight thrown on top of a Fight Night Card