The class war. Which side are you on?

[Codpiece]

This is demonstrably untrue.

While it may be said that some poor folks allocate too much of their income to nonessential goods, saving is not and has never in American history been the hallmark of the upper class or of upward mobility: spending is. "You gotta spend money to make money" and all. Allocating money into savings, as opposed to say stocks, is a guarantee you'll never be rich.

Also, the rich are the ones driving the neoliberal and austere political machine that has been putting a pillow over the face of the average American for the benefit of the rich. It was the rich who pushed for regressive tax cuts, who fought to kill unions, who fought to privatize the public sector.

Yes, while you may not be able to impute some moral to all "rich dudes that don't even know who you are," you can absolutely blame declining wages, declining mobility, and economic inequality on the rich, categorically.

Investing =\= spending on non essential consumer goods.
SBJJ was clearly highlighting that many people have a “cost of lifestyle” problem.

 

[unimackpass]

Its defined by the way your hands look....

Ha, now your reminding me of some of the bar days when commercial fisherman, loggers and construction workers would arm wrestle to prove who was the bad ass. Fishing was the hardest on your hands, my dad could bend shit that astounded people. He also liked to head butt although that's a whole different chapter.

Spent a lot of time in bars with my dad when I was a kid, interesting to see who pushed through and made it big.

 

[lilelvis]

I believe the Democratic party and Republican party are the illusion of choice.

When people are being murdered by profiteering in medicine, I feel confident in saying, the 99.99% are not the ones doing the dividing. When wealth inequality has been rising for 50 years, that is not happenstance, but an attack, and again, the 99.99% are not the ones doing the dividing.

The 99.99% are powerless unless they can form a tribe, and collectively bargain.

We need to wake up to the fact that we are already at war, and have been getting our teeth kicked in because we are divided amongst the 99.99%.

GOAT WR post.

 

[bobgeese]

I’m certainly not on the poor team.

If you don’t live in an area effected by blight, and you have literally nothing of value to contribute to society by the time you’re 30, your failure is a result of your choices. You’ve wasted your life.

Don’t come crying to me for a handout.

 

[lilelvis]

Less Russia, more coverage on how AT&T engaged in bribery that is technically illegal, but near impossible to prove.

More coverage on how campaign finance is a threat to national security. From all nations, not just Russia.

Shining a light on Trumps Saudi and Israeli connections, and asking if our Iran policy is in this country's interests, or in the interests of Saudi Arabia and Israel.

Term limits, ear marks and federal redistribution of state funds could be mentioned time to time.
The CIA run media is complicit in the corruption. It's stunning how many media personalities are members of the CFR.

 

[Quequeg]

I’m willing to bet your a who has no friends because you try to i next politics into every facet of your life. Fuck off.

Wrong, I just don't try and debate politics while being as dumb as a stump . FYI, you are totally rustled.

 

[MrLuke]

I don't belong to any class

 

[m52nickerson]

I believe the Democratic party and Republican party are the illusion of choice.

When people are being murdered by profiteering in medicine, I feel confident in saying, the 99.99% are not the ones doing the dividing. When wealth inequality has been rising for 50 years, that is not happenstance, but an attack, and again, the 99.99% are not the ones doing the dividing.

The 99.99% are powerless unless they can form a tribe, and collectively bargain.

We need to wake up to the fact that we are already at war, and have been getting our teeth kicked in because we are divided amongst the 99.99%.

Felling that the two parties, which offer and when giving a chance, provide very different solutions to problems is just....well stupid.

Also thinking that the 99.99% is powerless against the 0.01% is also just as stupid.

Inequality happens in just about everything. It true that we have done a shit job of controlling that, but at the same time in this country over the last 50, and the rest of the West, we have pulled more people out of poverty then the rest of history combined. We are not at war, we are at a point that we need to make some changes. Thinking we are close to war show how ignorant you are about things.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

Lower middle class. My grandparents were poor immigrants. Poverty in Canada is a mental health and addiction issue so I dont like governing with a socialist agenda, it's not an economic issue.

Middle class bitches.

 

[Andy Capp]

Yeah, and the First World countries that retained greater commitment to unionization and to progressive taxes very clearly and undeniably saw greater economic equality/resistance to onset of economic inequality. That's why Western and Northern Europe don't have the same distributional makeup as we do.

Look up economic inequality in Denmark/Sweden/Norway, then look it up in UK/Germany, and then go to the United States.

The difference between those countries and ours? You guessed it: progressive taxes/lack of regressive cuts, comparatively high union membership, and use of those to fund social democratic programs. And since @LogicalInsanity cosigned your (still completely unsupported) post, you can both observe the correlation preceding the onset of meaningful automation.

Well, if persons are not morons they can look up the ultra-tight correlations themselves.

Still waiting on that top five, chief. That is, if you can muster anything other than generalities and vague nods to spuriousness and other reasons. Heck, you couldn't even come up with one that I hadn't explicitly and preemptively dismissed last time.

Yay Canada.

Lower middle class. My grandparents were poor immigrants. Poverty in Canada is a mental health and addiction issue so I dont like governing with a socialist agenda, it's not an economic issue.

Middle class bitches.

What does this actually mean? Whatever we're doing, it seems to be working rather well.

 

[snakedafunky]

I only know two classes the German farmer and the German worker.

 

[Headkicktoleg]

To me there are about 10 classes in the United States.

1. Super rich.-Bezos, Gates
2. Pretty fckn rich- CEO of fortune 500
3. Wealthy- Retire comfortably
5. Above middle class-drives a new Honda
6. Middle class (most of us) 50k a year
7.lower middle. You got Netflix, but going to a non chain food joint...nah.
8. You seem poor. Struggling to makes ends meet. 30 yr old working entry level job. Car title loans
9. Welfare- Goodwill is your spot.
10. Homeless.

Far from rich vs poor

I think there is a class between Wealthy and driving a honda also I think a lot of the "class warfare" comes from 6-9 living very similar lives due to government assistance. Someone making $50k a year is going to be working full time. Probably in an apartment or very cheap home and can't really afford to go on vacation or buy anything nice except maybe once a year when they get their $1000 tax refund. Someone making $15k a year is probably NOT working full time. Lives in a shittier apartment. Can't afford to go on vacation or buy anything nice except when they get their $15,000 tax refund. They also have the HDTV buy the same groceries have the same phones have the PS4 etc.

I think instead of giving people phones, food, housing allowance, etc we should be subsidizing the cost of trade schools, community colleges and work on the cost of college. That would do more for 9-7 than giving them free stuff.

 

[Darth_Inv1ctu5]

A very popular joke, for quite a few years now, has been "you sound poor". While I understand the mocking and humor of the joke, I have never felt comfortable laughing at it.

I make good money, but in my mind, I will always be poor.

I am on team poor people, not as their defender, not as their white knight, but because I know I am not a rich person, and our middle class is in its death throws.

There is a class war in the United States. It is the intellectual, political, and moneyed elites, vs everyone else. Unfortunately many useful idiots will defend team 'elite', so I just wanted to know, which side are you on?

There's a false bucketing here of the "intellectual" into the rich & political elite. Belonging to one does not imply belonging to the others, nor does it preclude one from belonging to others. A member of the intellectual elite can also be poor (and often is).

 

[Long Dark Blues]

#teamlowermiddleclass

#teamtoopoortoaffordcollegeyettoorichtogetfinancialaidformyson

#middleclasswhitemaledemographicfilledsoyougetwaitlisted

 

[Deleted member 457759]

Yay Canada.


What does this actually mean? Whatever we're doing, it seems to be working rather well.

Our country is fast becoming the Scandinavian failure.

 

[Andy Capp]

Our country is fast becoming the Scandinavian failure.

LOL I don't even know what that means but it sounds ridiculous. Things seem pretty good from where I'm sitting.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

LOL I don't even know what that means but it sounds ridiculous. Things seem pretty good from where I'm sitting.

Interesting tactic to play stupid. That's what you guys usually do when faced with reality.

I work for the government and if I here "like Sweden" one more time I'm going to vomit. Sweden is an excellent example of failed radical leftism and feminism.

 

[AznTrojan]

To me there are about 10 classes in the United States.

1. Super rich.-Bezos, Gates
2. Pretty fckn rich- CEO of fortune 500
3. Wealthy- Retire comfortably
5. Above middle class-drives a new Honda
6. Middle class (most of us) 50k a year
7.lower middle. You got Netflix, but going to a non chain food joint...nah.
8. You seem poor. Struggling to makes ends meet. 30 yr old working entry level job. Car title loans
9. Welfare- Goodwill is your spot.
10. Homeless.

Far from rich vs poor

i'm in class 4

 

[Mark Hunts FIST]

i'm in class 4

Posting while drinking. Hahahahaha.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

I have never even seen the movie.

The books are actually a clever Trojan horse to teach children abstinence.

The films are garbage and set back the vampire genre about 50 years.

I would still however , rate these films higher than The Last Jedi. I'm still pissed about shit film.