The Best MMA Wrestling. GSP or Jones?

GSP has the more explosive double leg. Jones is way better in the clinch. Overall I think Jones is better. It's marginal.

Jones uses his height as leverage a lot in the clinch, and we'll it's very effective against guys like DC, Chael, and Rashad, who are shorter, its extremely ineffective against taller fighters like Santos, Gus, Smith.

GSP never faced an opponent he couldn't take down, Jones can't say the same.
 
Its clear GSP is stronger with TDs and Jon with the clinch.

I think GSP's wrestling is a little more effective in MMA because he can literally put people on their backs and keep them there at will. Jones is very good at it too but not as effective.

So i'd give the edge to GSP out of those two, but i think khabib is at the same level and maybe even higher.
 
Jon is better in the clinch and St-Pierre is the better takedown-artist*.

*Takedown accuracy:
St-Pierre: 73.8%
Jones: 46.5%

*Takedowns landed per 15 minutes:
St-Pierres: 4.16
Jones: 1.90

Overall it's close, but i'd give the edge to St-Pierre.

(Khabib should be mentioned as well, if we're talking about the best MMA-wrestlers, by the way.)
 
Jones. GSP was outwrestled vs Hendricks and Hughes 1. Jones outwrestled Olympian DC 2X
  • Landing 3 takedowns while your opponent lands 2 is not being outwrestled.
  • While St-Pierre landed only 1 takedown and Hughes 2 in their first bout, GSP landed 4 and Hughes 0 in their second and third match combined.
Verdict: St-Pierre has proven to be a better wrestler than literally everyone he has stepped in the cage against.

If you think Jones is the better wrestler that's one thing, but don't act like St-Pierre has been the inferior wrestler in comparison to any of his opponents, because that is clearly not the case.
 
Jones uses his height as leverage a lot in the clinch, and we'll it's very effective against guys like DC, Chael, and Rashad, who are shorter, its extremely ineffective against taller fighters like Santos, Gus, Smith.

GSP never faced an opponent he couldn't take down, Jones can't say the same.

Who couldn't Jones take down?
 
GSP for its consistency.

Jones' has gone to shit in years as he's transitioned into a kickboxer. Everybody says he keeps it in his back pocket, but he still fails/struggles far more often on TDs than he used to. And it's not like it's happening against Div 1 wrestlers or anything.
 
Jones is a predominant stand up fighter and a better fighter than GSP. However, GSP had probably the best cage /mma wrestling in game. Jones prefers to stand .According to opponent, GSP gameplan got to point where td was first option.
 
Gus, Santos with 1 leg, Anthony smith

Gus???
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Wrong

Don't know about the other 2. Did he try or want to take them down?
 
Jones. GSP was outwrestled vs Hendricks and Hughes 1. Jones outwrestled Olympian DC 2X
Hendricks didn’t outwrestle GSP.
The majority of his top control was the result of a GSP trip in the 4th round. GSP had more takedowns in that fight.
The Hughes fight was his 8th career fight. GSP destroyed him in both rematches.
 
Jones has better mma wrestling, but GSP is more impressive, as he is not from a wrestling background..
 
GSP because in his era everyone roided but in Jones era only he roided. Its easy to look good when you have above human strenght.
 
Know one ever expected these 2 phenoms to be so dominate in wrestling. They both been taken down a couple times, but that's it.

This is a tough one but who do you believe is the best in mma wrestling?
Gsp, but Khabib is the actual best.
 
Gus, Santos with 1 leg, Anthony smith

He took down Gus in both fights and only struggled with obvious shots in the first fight since he didn't set up his takedowns. Not an issue in their second fight.

He took down Smith plenty, don't remember any grappling in the Santos fight though.
 
Know one ever expected these 2 phenoms to be so dominate in wrestling. They both been taken down a couple times, but that's it.

This is a tough one but who do you believe is the best in mma wrestling?

taking down an accomplished wrestler like cormier gives jones the edge.

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GSP's one of the best shootfighters, like Danaher describes him. Also has a better double, the technique isn't comparable. Jones isn't a shootfighter, he does one or the other, doesn't set one up with the other. But he's insanely strong in the clinch, which makes him more effective.
 
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