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Amazing contribution. Have anything brave to say about your beleifs or are you hear for this low brow crap?Sir, a fertilized egg most certainly is not a chicken.
Amazing contribution. Have anything brave to say about your beleifs or are you hear for this low brow crap?Sir, a fertilized egg most certainly is not a chicken.
Without the Single Woman vote, the Democratic Party is no more. For this reason, Abortion is always an issue and that will never end. The MSM will comply as always with the Democrats and sell "Pro-Choice".
The only women with an issue are poor women in the Deep Red States. That is tiny amount and they can be accommodated with subsidized travel.
Again, without the Single Woman vote, the Democratic Party is no more. For this reason they are also pushing LGBTQ+ on society. They don't want straight couples. Hetero couples don't vote for Democratic Party insanity as a rule. Democrats need women away from men. That's their game. So when you see some whacked policy, ask yourself if it pushing women from men and if it does... the Democratic Party supports it.
"Arguing for eating babies"...look at you. See this all you goons can do on this issue. If a fertilized egg IS literally a chicken, then why did you refer to it as a "fertilized egg?" Literally anyone would look at an egg and go "that's an egg." No one would go "that's a chicken."
For the umpteenth time, the limitations of Roe were just fine. Which for the record, outlawed 3rd trimester abortions except in cases of medical emergencies.
No matter how many times that question gets answered, the zealots just keep asking the same sh*t over and over.
huh, it’s an issue because the GOP’s ultimate goal is to ban it which is something that the vast majority of people are against. Honestly , is there something wrong with you ??Without the Single Woman vote, the Democratic Party is no more. For this reason, Abortion is always an issue and that will never end. The MSM will comply as always with the Democrats and sell "Pro-Choice".
The only women with an issue are poor women in the Deep Red States. That is tiny amount and they can be accommodated with subsidized travel.
Again, without the Single Woman vote, the Democratic Party is no more. For this reason they are also pushing LGBTQ+ on society. They don't want straight couples. Hetero couples don't vote for Democratic Party insanity as a rule. Democrats need women away from men. That's their game. So when you see some whacked policy, ask yourself if it pushing women from men and if it does... the Democratic Party supports it.
I’d be willing to ban it in the 3rd trimester, except in cases of risk to the mother’s life/health.Try again but to be clear you are at least willing to ban third trimester?
I felt compelled to correct some science about a subject that I can speak on from a point of experience.Amazing contribution. Have anything brave to say about your beleifs or are you hear for this low brow crap?
I don’t believe in god, I do believe in premature babies. I take care of them from time to time, though I don’t like pediatrics. Health of the mother and baby are acceptable exceptions. 24 week babies are a thing to say the least. 22 is possible and we’ll keep getting better at it. So maybe every needs to be just a bit less cavalier about it. Trumps 16 week idea is about right. Roe was not the final word for on abortion from the courts and I’m not going to quote them all here. Go through Europe and you’ll find much more restrictive laws than we have here prior to roe being overturned.I’d be willing to ban it in the 3rd trimester, except in cases of risk to the mother’s life/health.
Which is exactly how Roe worked, btw.
What you’re describing is essentially Roe, and you’re not the first conservative I’ve seen take that position, which I find I quite odd.
I know Roe wasn’t the final word, and constitutionally speaking, Casey makes more sense to me. I don’t think those frameworks are cavalier. I think the abortion laws passed in red states are cavalier, and have done real harm to women’s health and women’s rights. They have unleashed an awful lot of suffering on women.I don’t believe in god, I do believe in premature babies. I take care of them from time to time, though I don’t like pediatrics. Health of the mother and baby are acceptable exceptions. 24 week babies are a thing to say the least. 22 is possible and we’ll keep getting better at it. So maybe every needs to be just a bit less cavalier about it. Trumps 16 week idea is about right. Roe was not the final word for on abortion from the courts and I’m not going to quote them all here. Go through Europe and you’ll find much more restrictive laws than we have here prior to roe being overturned.
Where did she get them sinister? When I post the audio of the abortionist who works at the exact DC clinic confirming they do what she claimed are you going to claim that is fake as well?
Try again but to be clear you are at least willing to ban third trimester?
If you support it "up to a certain point" then you probably have a good enough idea when it's a baby, unless you're not saying when specifically because of how it might sound.
I'm perfectly comfortable deferring to the settled case law on the issue. Because I'm not an anti-science wingnut who things medicine should be rooted in ideologies. Medical professionals have given us this information, it's not a matter of my opinion. And its NOT the medical community who has moved the goalposts on this, it's the "18 weeks, no 16 weeks, no 15 weeks, no 6 weeks., no total ban, no life begins at conception" crowd.
And you avoid the question as usual.
From the time it's heart starts I can understand some people concerning it a baby. It's still developing into a full term but the baby is there.
Myself I say the cut off is 16 to 20 weeks in cases all but the mothers health. However also plan b should be Oct for anyone at a low price for anyone over the age of consent.
Planed parenthood should be about birth control and counseling on birth control. I would support government funding for that including on site doctors for birth control and a reduced price.
all of you motherfuckers are slinging THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENTS at each other for decades. both of you really need some smarter stuff, cause this shit you're using aint working.
20 weeks plus two to be safe is probably my line. So 18 weeks. If brain activity can be shown before then I can be moved.I know Roe wasn’t the final word, and constitutionally speaking, Casey makes more sense to me. I don’t think those frameworks are cavalier. I think the abortion laws passed in red states are cavalier, and have done real harm to women’s health and women’s rights. They have unleashed an awful lot of suffering on women.
Trump said it should be kept to the states, and it was typical Trump AFAIC: he talked a big game about how he thought he could broker some incredible abortoon compromise that would please everyone, and instead he just punted and his “solution” pissed off both sides.
The government needs to stay the hell out of this issue until viability at minimum. They have no compelling interest in it whatsoever up until then.
Personally speaking, I’d be willing to compromise to 18 weeks, assuming doctors are given wide leeway to perform abortions when they feel it’s in the best interest of the mother’s health.20 weeks plus two to be safe is probably my line. So 18 weeks. If brain activity can be shown before then I can be moved.
They do believe it’s a baby and do believe in god. What do you expect them to do? The evangelical vote is a minority but a big one. So they pander.Personally speaking, I’d be willing to compromise to 18 weeks, assuming doctors are given wide leeway to perform abortions when they feel it’s in the best interest of the mother’s health.
But again, that’s almost exactly what we had. That’s exactly what conservatives worked for, for so long, to abolish. I find it rather stunning that some are pushing for this now—or at least giving the appearance that they are—when this is exactly what they waged their anti-abortion war over for so long.
It doesn’t matter who the president is, abortion is, and should be, a State responsibility.