Thats a K.O slam

dipstickjimmy said:
Not a lot of skill in smashing your head into another guy for the KO. Maybe just watch the GOAT channel if that's your thing?
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Perhaps this is the evolution of Power Slap?
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Crying about KO's in MMA.... Especially awesome, violent slam ko's
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Mohawk Banditó said:
The legal thing caused an illegal thing? Yeah, that's the part you can stop at, ya dummy
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If someone does a spinning elbow or a high kick that ends up impacting the back of the head, do they stop it? No. There's an implicit understanding that in a close quarters physical competition, some incidental clashes will occur that simply aren't fouls.
 
Gamer2k4 said:
If someone does a spinning elbow or a high kick that ends up impacting the back of the head, do they stop it? No. There's an implicit understanding that in a close quarters physical competition, some incidental clashes will occur that simply aren't fouls.
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Difference is that you don't have control of the opponent with strikes accidentally hitting the back of the head of someone turning into it.

Imagine grabbing someone and just headbutting the fuck out of them with "slams".
 
Gamer2k4 said:
If someone does a spinning elbow or a high kick that ends up impacting the back of the head, do they stop it? No. There's an implicit understanding that in a close quarters physical competition, some incidental clashes will occur that simply aren't fouls.
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I didn't ask what refs do and neither did the idiot op. He said what did and didn't happen and was fucking wrong.

And now you're changing the subject to what usually does or doesn't happen and skipping right over what should or shouldn't happen based on the rules.

Tell me, when someone goes for a leg kick, but the guy moves so they hit groin, do they stop it?
Incidental does not mean the illegal contact isn't a foul. The lack of a person to blame doesn't mean a person isn't affected by it
 
Big Al's Texas BBQ said:
No, that was a very different situation. Holland got choked out because he got rocked from a head clash which gave Daukus an opening and the ref let the fight continue for some stupid reason. The head clash in Hernandez v.s. Bondar was due to a perfectly legal technique that led to the finish.
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Any head clash if intentional usually occurs through the processing of attempting a legal technique (head clash throwing strike or going for take down). You guys just salty
 
The head collision caused the knock out. It was pretty obvious. Cruz should keep his stupid overly opinionated comments in his pocket, he just sounds petulant and infantile
 
Big Al's Texas BBQ said:
You can't prove whether it was the slam or the clash of heads that ko'ed him. The slam itself was legal and the head clash was incidental. There's also precedent set from previous slam ko wins (Tito v.s. Tanner), so it should not have been ruled a no contest.
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Rampage v Arona was a head butt. That slam was purely for the cameras.
 
I think it's funny that this thread can even have 2 pages of discussion.

It was a KO slam, but there was definitely a clash of heads.

No one can deny that their heads came together. Both of their momentum was directed down towards the mat.

I'm fine with going to replay on it, but it should be the same threshold as other instant replay reviews. "Clear video evidence" needed to overturn the referees judgement.

We do not see clear evidence the head clash knocked the fighter out compared to the slam itself, so therefor the call should stay as called by the ref and fight stopped by ko, imo.
 
I also thought it was clean. He was out from the slam the headbutt was mild and massively after the fact. He was out because his head smashed the canvas
 
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