That fight was boring...

Let's be honest here and stop playing the whole "I'm an educated fight fan" card.

The fight was boring as fuck.

Rory's fault for not pushing more and being willing to take a shot to get inside, but Thompson is not going to make any more fans by running away the whole fight. Literally the minute they'd get in range he would run half-way across the damn cage.

Where was the flash? Where were the hook-kicks, the spin-kicks? Literally threw like 3 in 25 minutes.

I like Thompson as a person, but he is very much capable of stinking up the joint.

Really don't want to see Lawler vs Thompson all that much after that fight.

Rory was stunned by someone with really good distance control. Every time he settled in, Thompson would throw his lead leg to the body. Thompson also throws his lead leg to the face very effectively, making it extremely difficult for Rory to to just rush in (great way to get your jaw broken). You could bullrush with your hands up covering your face like what Shogun did vs Machida; but Thompson also throws a front hook kick which would come around the guard and hit you on the side of your head (I'm sure Firas studied this).

Whenever Rory would actually get into his striking distance, Thompson would hit him with a combo and move laterally out of the way. There's nothing more Rory could have done here; he was the slower fighter and he had started to take a lot of damage.

When you say, where was the flash, where were the spins; you can't simply throw a hook kick out of nowhere. For one, Thompson and Rory were mostly standing in an open stance, meaning Thompson would have to switch his stance before throwing a hook kick (which he attempted once). When Thompson did switch stances to immediately attack, Rory did not come forward, so Thompson attacked with a roundhouse instead. If Rory had come forward, I believe Thompson would have thrown a hook kick off his back leg. This is called trap fighting. You can only react if your opponent falls for the bait.

Throwing a back leg hook kick off the line is pretty tricky. If your opponent is coming forward too fast, you run the risk of your leg wrapping around too far passed him (exposing your back). If your opponent has a decent push kick (teep) and they are able to read your spin, they can time you and push you down as you are spinning. Rory is not a novice, and not someone you can simply throw "spinning sh*t" at.

@speak This. LOL at people not understanding what they are watching.

Another reason Thompson didn't just unload with "spinning shit" - the TD threat. It's painfully obvious that some of the critics of this fight have no idea what it's like to stand across from another man who is trying to take your head off.
 
I actually saw it coming. Rory is a little boring if he isn't fighting someone that will pressure him and make him fight.
 
To each his own, I enjoyed it and was on the edge of my seat the whole time. There was a lot on the line and both guys were intimately familiar with just how dangerous the other guys was, so I can understand being tentative.
 
I agree with TS...the fight was bad.
 
wasn't the worst. I didn't expect much from it just due to the match up. I knew Thompson was going to move a lot and keep his range at all costs. He fought a smart fight. Can't blame him. I still watched it twice, like normal.
 
I'm in the middle, I could appreciate the way their respective talent levels made for a stalemate of sorts, but I wish that manifested itself more in rollercoaster-like exchanges than a seemingly 3 round feel-out.
 
Yeah it was mostly because Thompson saw Rory tried to dive for his legs over and over and didn't engage, which made him passive, looked to almost solely counter. It's similar to Machida in that if you don't attack him he'll just kick from the outside and often those kicks aren't homeruns. Rory respected his striking a lot, too. Too much even since he was losing due to being passive, as well. It was very high level MMA though, but the action wasn't there.
 
I think disappointing is the right word. I found it interesting but was expecting more. Rory only seemed to go for it in the last round which led to a decent finish. If he started pressuring earlier like round 3 it could of turned into a great fight in the championship rounds
 
I think this whole "you don't know what you were watching" stuff is aimed at people saying "the Bosse fight was the best ever." But not everybody who found the fight boring would agree with that statement. Sure, the Bosse fight was good fun, but I'd never rank it as a top fight. Those are just guys swinging who will never beat top contenders in the division.

But the wonderboy vs Rory fight was pretty lame. I was never expecting a slugfest, Rory is a cautious fighter and Wonderboy is a counterpuncher, so this was bound to happen. But it was too much. Once you hit round 3 in a fight where not much happened in the first 2 rounds, you'd think at least one guy would start getting worried and show some urgency. I think you can't blame the lack of initiative entirely on Rory, but in the end he was the one that seemed like he was probably down since he threw virtually nothing. I was on the edge of my seat for rounds 1 and 2 because I thought something would eventually happen. Sadly, nothing of worth really did.

Also, not sure why people are saying they don't want to see Wonderboy vs Lawler. It'll be a very different fight, Lawler comes forward, he will force the action on pretty much anybody eventually.
 
@speak This. LOL at people not understanding what they are watching.

Another reason Thompson didn't just unload with "spinning shit" - the TD threat. It's painfully obvious that some of the critics of this fight have no idea what it's like to stand across from another man who is trying to take your head off.
My response to that would be this:

If you stuff every single takedown attempt, and if anything control the opponent better that he can control you (surprisingly) in the clinch - what the fuck you worried about?

We essentially all knew the only way Johny Hendricks could have beaten Wonderboy was to get inside and hit him with power or to wrestle him all-day. Wonderboy sure wasn't too worried about them takedowns because he was throwing "spinning-shit" all-day.

The constant excuses to defend "playing it safe" performances, based on "you don't appreciate technical striking" arguments are just tiresome.

I love technique, I would take technique over wreckless brawling any-day. BUT, I hate point-fighting when you're supposed to be an elite fighter. I hate performances which do not live up to your billing.

You watch Thompson to see exciting, diverse kickboxing, where he's trying to take his opponents head-off - not some love-taps to the legs and body.

Fuck that performance, fuck that fight and fuck the snobs that pretend they know ever so much because they liked it.
 
Man I was on the edge of my seat. But I'm not a clueless retard who jizzes his pants whenever fighters spam slow looping haymakers over and over.
 
After the Rory vs Ellenberger fight(fight I thought would be amazeballs), I told myself i'd stop getting excited for Rory fights. But that didn't last long, lol. I was excited for the Robbie fights & this one... This fight was waaaaaay better than the Ellenberger fight though. That might be the most boring fight i've ever seen.
 
Rory was stunned by someone with really good distance control. Every time he settled in, Thompson would throw his lead leg to the body. Thompson also throws his lead leg to the face very effectively, making it extremely difficult for Rory to to just rush in (great way to get your jaw broken). You could bullrush with your hands up covering your face like what Shogun did vs Machida; but Thompson also throws a front hook kick which would come around the guard and hit you on the side of your head (I'm sure Firas studied this).

Whenever Rory would actually get into his striking distance, Thompson would hit him with a combo and move laterally out of the way. There's nothing more Rory could have done here; he was the slower fighter and he had started to take a lot of damage.

When you say, where was the flash, where were the spins; you can't simply throw a hook kick out of nowhere. For one, Thompson and Rory were mostly standing in an open stance, meaning Thompson would have to switch his stance before throwing a hook kick (which he attempted once). When Thompson did switch stances to immediately attack, Rory did not come forward, so Thompson attacked with a roundhouse instead. If Rory had come forward, I believe Thompson would have thrown a hook kick off his back leg. This is called trap fighting. You can only react if your opponent falls for the bait.

Throwing a back leg hook kick off the line is pretty tricky. If your opponent is coming forward too fast, you run the risk of your leg wrapping around too far passed him (exposing your back). If your opponent has a decent push kick (teep) and they are able to read your spin, they can time you and push you down as you are spinning. Rory is not a novice, and not someone you can simply throw "spinning sh*t" at.
I appreciate your lengthy breakdown, but the one bit that I cannot understand is this idea that "he couldn't throw spinning shit, or exciting shit because Rory is elite".

Like, what is Hendricks? Is he not elite?

Hendricks who arguably beat Lawler twice, beat Condit and GSP - but knocking him stiff is perfectly acceptable.

Can we just face it that Thompson cruised and played it safe!?

He's still elite, he's still in-line for a shot, he's still a great fighter - he just isn't as amazingly entertaining as we might have thought.
 
i was actually praying you woudn't say maia
Nope, I can complain and call stuff out but I'm not stupid.

Thompson deserves the shot, just a little let-down by his performance.

He has set the bar very high after the Hendricks performance.
 
My response to that would be this:

If you stuff every single takedown attempt, and if anything control the opponent better that he can control you (surprisingly) in the clinch - what the fuck you worried about?

We essentially all knew the only way Johny Hendricks could have beaten Wonderboy was to get inside and hit him with power or to wrestle him all-day. Wonderboy sure wasn't too worried about them takedowns because he was throwing "spinning-shit" all-day.

The constant excuses to defend "playing it safe" performances, based on "you don't appreciate technical striking" arguments are just tiresome.

I love technique, I would take technique over wreckless brawling any-day. BUT, I hate point-fighting when you're supposed to be an elite fighter. I hate performances which do not live up to your billing.

You watch Thompson to see exciting, diverse kickboxing, where he's trying to take his opponents head-off - not some love-taps to the legs and body.

Fuck that performance, fuck that fight and fuck the snobs that pretend they know ever so much because they liked it.

Again. You don't understand what you are watching. Hendricks plods forward and got punished for it. Rory wasn't about to make that same mistake.

WB is able to stuff TDs because he doesn't push forward, he anticipates them, and everyone knew before this fight started that Rory's key to victory was getting the TD, so why would WB throw all caution to the wind, in a title eliminator fight, and just start unloading offensive kicks?

You severely confuse "playing it safe" with fighting smart, and how a counterstriker actually approaches a fight - I get it, it's not your cup of tea, but don't act as if these guys are just point fighters because they don't just brawl like fuckin idiots from toughman.

The moment you yourself are able to square up in front of a WB, or a Rory, is the moment you get to have an opinion as to what "playing it safe" means. Until then, stfu.
 
Not the war I was expecting but I don't think it was boring.
 
Rory made that fight boring. You Canucks have nobody to blame but your own.
 
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