Teddy Atlas: Floyd didn't carry Conor

MescalineDreams said:
In this case it's also because that sort of forward pressure gasses Conor quicker.

When you can dominate the range and dictate where the fight takes place, it's a lot easier to manage energy.

Same reason why Nate's style and pressure gasses him out so much.
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I'd agree but Conor was gassed after round 3 which was before Floyd pressured
 
GreatSaintGuillotine said:
I'd agree but Conor was gassed after round 3 which was before Floyd pressured
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I've watched the fight like a dozen times at this point

He didnt really gas until the 7th

Up until then it was close. Even the 4th,5th and 6th were close, some which could be argued for McGregor.

The 7th was the first real dominant round of the bunch in Floyd's favour.

Conor got a bit of a second wind in the 8th and again we ended up with another close round.

Not sure if people just dont remember the fight that well but the common narrative I've seen here is that Conor looked good for 2 rounds or something then Floyd started to dominate.

But that actually isnt true.

It was fairly competitive throughout, up until Conor started to truly gas out.

I'd suggest everyone to go back and watch it a few times.
 
MescalineDreams said:
I've watched the fight like a dozen times at this point

He didnt really gas until the 7th

Up until then it was close. Even the 4th,5th and 6th were close, some which could be argued for McGregor.

The 7th was the first real dominant round of the bunch in Floyd's favour.

Conor got a bit of a second wind in the 8th and again we ended up with another close round.

Not sure if people just dont remember the fight that well but the common narrative I've seen here is that Conor looked good for 2 rounds or something then Floyd started to dominate.

But that actually isnt true.

It was fairly competitive throughout, up until Conor started to truly gas out.

I'd suggest everyone to go back and watch it a few times.
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Dude I literally watched that fight 13 times now. You see what you want I guess. I'm too tired to debate this and honestly I doubt it'll make a difference.

Floyd used some of his old pretty boy tricks. It worked really well. Conor had more success than anyone expected. Both made money
 
GreatSaintGuillotine said:
I disagree about 4-6. Floyd very clearly landed the better shots. I think people's expectations for Conor were so low that minor success seems massive.
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Perhaps but they were still competitive rounds.

For me that wasnt really a factor. I just score rounds as I see it.

There's just this idea that after the first portion of the fight, Floyd just took over and dominated


Even I believed this until I went back and watched it a few times. Once or twice stoned just to see if theres anything I was missing as well.. lol

But up until Conor really gassed in the 9th, he was more than holding his own.

You could hear the surprise amongst the commentators / sugar ray Leonard as well.

At the same time, it needs to be said that Floyd just didnt look good. His feet weren't there, speed, reflexes, timing, everything was off and he looked every minute of 40.
 
Kuggk said:
Odd. I don't see anyone emotional in this thread. "Teddy Atlas said it so it must be true"
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Emotions meaning

People are allowing themselves to be heavily influenced by their dislike of a person.

Not all but many.

Many have had a picture of McGregor painted in their heads. To give him the same credit Atlas and other fighters, boxing legends have would be to admit on some level that they've been wrong this entire time and that he's more talented than they gave him credit for.

It's a lot easier to double down and do the opposite, attack credibility and cherry pick whatever narrative portrays him worse.

That confirmation bias is deeply embedded, as you can see by the level of hatred on this forum. Reinforced even further by the hive mind / group think. It's not a paradigm shit that many are ready for.

You can see a similar sort of thing amongst haters of a wide variety of public figures, celebrities, athletes. Conor just happens to be the most glaring in the MMA world.
 
campbecc said:
he tried to bet on the under but they wouldn't let him. That would have paid the same for a 1st round knockout as a 10th round knockout.
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https://tv5.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/20472005/floyd-mayweather-tried-bet-fight-conor-mcgregor


Mayweather, who went off as a -500 favorite at most sportsbooks, stopped McGregor 1 minute, 5 seconds into the 10th round. Mayweather would have won either attempted bet: under 9.5 or to win by knockout.

"I think that we bet 100 on 9½," Mayweather told ESPN's Sal Paolantonio after the fight. "I gave my guy six figures to go bet. I have to make sure he bet because earlier today I went to the sports book to bet and they wouldn't let me bet."

Mayweather later told SportsCenter he gave a friend $400,000 to bet, but that the friend was only allowed to place a bet for $87,000.

Neither the Nevada State Athletic Commission nor Nevada Gaming Control has regulations addressing a fighter's ability to bet on himself.
 
teddy atlas is full of shit. hes one of the old guard boxing shit heads that dont even have any real knowledge or insight about boxing that an average fan does.

these guys sit back and talk shit as if they were the best fighter of all time and never lost or came up short. fucking clowns
 
Teddy is an MMA chill now.

Mayweather did not take this serious at all.
Cfr eating burgers, doing all nighters in his club
 
if you dont see that conor was carried you really dont know shit about boxing period or your fucking lying for a check.

remember after the fight all the industry boxing guys coming out supporting mcgregor and everyone eating that shit up.

No shit lmao. You think they are going to shit on the one of the biggest fanbase in combat sports??? Dont you understand these assholes like money?? They will say whatever about that fucking leprechaun just for a little bit of that pot of gold.
 
GreatSaintGuillotine said:
First 3 rounds Floyd did not try. He's putting on a show, giving people what they paid for, and letting Conor burn his gas. After that he was serious. Round 10 he definitely came in to end it.
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Well he tried, he tried to not get hit and he did cop a decent uppercut. Was never really in doubt, I feel Conor was better than he thought though, but he did correctly judge his gas tank (or lack thereof).
 
SiMntjMMA said:
Teddy is an MMA chill now.

Mayweather did not take this serious at all.
Cfr eating burgers, doing all nighters in his club
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anybody that makes money as a public "personality" or influencer is a fucking shill.

nobody makes money telling the cold hard truth. Nobody wants to hear the truth and nobody is going to pay you for it. They tell the lies people want to hear or they wouldnt be famous
 
Shaddows said:
Yes, but you read too much into it.
FLoyd knew Conor was not a threat, especially after he gas.
And Floyd was retired, not fighting a boxer that could pose any danger to him.

IMHO he took the first 3 rounds to just test and get a feel for COnor.
He run no risks at all. and once COnor got sloppy, he went in for the kill.
ROund after round he increased his production and put pressure on Conor until he gave up
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I don't think I am reading too much into it. There really isn't much to read into. Atlas said two very simple things and that is Floyd was out of his prime and that based on Floyds style, it's not his game to be on the offense and just attack like he did in the later part of the fight. And that is why Conor made it to round 10.

Floyd does usually take a few rounds to feel his opponents out, pretty much most successful boxers do and then open up. But Conor proved to be a bit more of a challenge in that aspect than most expected and that is why it took Floyd 10 rounds to get it done. So it's not that he carried him, it's more that he waited till the risk was limited and then pressed the fight the last few rounds till the finish came once he had the fight figured out. That's not carrying an opponent, it's just a strategic win.
 
TankAbbott4Eva said:
Well he tried, he tried to not get hit and he did cop a decent uppercut. Was never really in doubt, I feel Conor was better than he thought though, but he did correctly judge his gas tank (or lack thereof).
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that uppercut wasnt shit. conor punches like a fucking girl with boxing gloves on. Floyd didnt even fucking feel that shit
 
Through The Looking Glass said:
if you dont see that conor was carried you really dont know shit about boxing period or your fucking lying for a check.

remember after the fight all the industry boxing guys coming out supporting mcgregor and everyone eating that shit up.

No shit lmao. You think they are going to shit on the one of the biggest fanbase in combat sports??? Dont you understand these assholes like money?? They will say whatever about that fucking leprechaun just for a little bit of that pot of gold.
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80% of fans believe the pile of shit you just wrote

Just so happens that the 20% who were impressed with his performance is full of pro fighters, boxers, boxing legends, trainers, analysts. Teddy Atlas being one of many.

But yeah. Obviously the greatest minds in the sport don't know shit about boxing.

Instead some hate fueled fan with massive confirmation bias, who says the exact same hive mind shit that everyone else does with zero independent thought of his own, knows better.

<Gizmo01>
 
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MescalineDreams said:
All pro boxers gave him respect. But fans who've never trained, boxed or fought give him none.



MescalineDreams said:
80% of fans believe the pile of shit you just wrote

Just so happens that the 20% who were impressed with his performance are full of pro fighters, boxers, boxing legends, trainers, analysts. Teddy Atlas being one of many.

But yeah. Obviously the greatest minds in the sport don't know shit about boxing.

Instead some hate fueled fan with massive confirmation bias, who says the exact same hive mind shit that everyone else does with zero independent thought of his own, knows better.

<Gizmo01>
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Youre one of the idiots that doesnt understand money. You think pissing off a rabid giant mcgregor fanbase in 2015 is good for business??

No its fucking not in fact it would fucking ruin a former fighter trying to make it as an analyst.

If you really believe all pro boxers gave him respect youre a fucking moron. The only ones are the ones trying to make a career for themselves on youtube or as an analyst commentator. It was a big fucking business move.

I been boxing for over 10 years and nobody in the game respects mcgregor as a boxer unless they are a famous youtuber wow look at that i know dozens of pro coaches/ fighters etc.. all them could give two shits about conman hes a fucking bum and youre all retards for buying into this shit
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Sugar ray leonard, Larry holmes, mike tyson, Terrance Crawford, Adrien Broner, Lennox Lewis, there was dozens of well known boxers / legends of the game who showed him respect and gave credit where it's due.

So you're saying all these millionaire, established boxers and legends only said it for money and youtube?

What the fuck are you even talking about?

None of these people care about him. Most of them didnt show him any love and support leading up to the fight at all.

But when so many credible people, some of the most knowledgeable minds in the game are showing respect, it means something.

Fools like yourself should be asking what are they seeing that you dont?

You're obviously so invested in hating the leprechaun that you cant even see past your nose. Just like so many others.

10 years of boxing yet you're still saying the exact same thing 90% of the casuals are, word for word. How embarrassing.
 
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