Teddy Atlas: Floyd didn't carry Conor

[MescalineDreams]

I think that's the whole point of what Teddy said that it's not Floyds style to do that. He never fights like he did beyond the 6th round moving forward. Floyd fought like he always does early, the counter puncher looking for one shots and then changed things up mid fight when he sensed he needs to get going and the opportunity was there cause he felt Conor wasn't threatening him with his power shots and that he was getting fatigued.

Even if Floyd fought like that early he wouldn't of finished Conor. Floyds style became effective once Conors cardio started going down. His power shots didn't have the same pop and his defense was far more open. Early on Conor was still a threat with his power and he managed distance well and fought well defensively. The way Floyd fought later in the fight would be more risky and less effective early in the fight.

Bit odd how so many are so incapable of seeing this sort of reason..lol

 

[BertStayre]

I've been saying this everytime it comes up, hopefully it's been long enough by now people are less biased either way.

No way floyd just carried conor and decided when to end it. He never fights like that. He also really, REALLY needed to keep that perfect record. He's not an idiot, he knew conor had some skill, but more importantly that he was a lot bigger than floyd and boxing or MMA, he has one punch power. So no, I don't think there's a chance in hell floyd just took it easy. He also knows conor gasses and gets sloppy really quick when it happens, and that's exactly what he did. The second conor got slow, floyd went to work. This whole thing of floyd playing with conor for 10 rds? Please. I think it's more likely he was just as surprised as everyone else and played his shell game. Why would he not want to end it as soon as possible to put that extra fuck you on it because "conor didn't belong?"

That's just my .02

 

[campbecc]

I don't know if he carried him but he did not take the fight seriously.

 

[HAWTRIDDUM]

I don't think he carried him.

I think he knew Conor was overconfident in his punching power and that Conor just by design has a limited gas tank and didnt have a long enough camp to get in the shape he needed to be in.

He just let him piss his energy away then finished him off.

 

[Shaddows]

I think that's the whole point of what Teddy said that it's not Floyds style to do that. He never fights like he did beyond the 6th round moving forward. Floyd fought like he always does early, the counter puncher looking for one shots and then changed things up mid fight when he sensed he needs to get going and the opportunity was there cause he felt Conor wasn't threatening him with his power shots and that he was getting fatigued.

Even if Floyd fought like that early he wouldn't of finished Conor. Floyds style became effective once Conors cardio started going down. His power shots didn't have the same pop and his defense was far more open. Early on Conor was still a threat with his power and he managed distance well and fought well defensively. The way Floyd fought later in the fight would be more risky and less effective early in the fight.

Yes, but you read too much into it.
FLoyd knew Conor was not a threat, especially after he gas.
And Floyd was retired, not fighting a boxer that could pose any danger to him.

IMHO he took the first 3 rounds to just test and get a feel for COnor.
He run no risks at all. and once COnor got sloppy, he went in for the kill.
ROund after round he increased his production and put pressure on Conor until he gave up

 

[Deleted member 510653]

Anybody with a brain knows that

 

[Cat Biscuits]

Did Floyd even throw a punch in the first two rounds?

People are stoooopid.

I mean, what other time has Floyd employed a walking forward without throwing punches strategy against any top fighter?

Are you idiots going to tell me as well that Floyd was putting 100% skill and effort into this fight because Conor posed a threat?

I can't remember the last time that Floyd fought so casually, like he was fighting an amateur.

People still arguing and thinking that Conor "won" rounds when the reality is that Floyd didn't fight in those rounds and gave them away freely.

 

[Kuggk]

Teddy Atlas knows nothing about boxing. MONEY TEAM ALL DAY BITCHES!!! BLM

cringe

 

[MescalineDreams]

I've been saying this everytime it comes up, hopefully it's been long enough by now people are less biased either way.

No way floyd just carried conor and decided when to end it. He never fights like that. He also really, REALLY needed to keep that perfect record. He's not an idiot, he knew conor had some skill, but more importantly that he was a lot bigger than floyd and boxing or MMA, he has one punch power. So no, I don't think there's a chance in hell floyd just took it easy. He also knows conor gasses and gets sloppy really quick when it happens, and that's exactly what he did. The second conor got slow, floyd went to work. This whole thing of floyd playing with conor for 10 rds? Please. I think it's more likely he was just as surprised as everyone else and played his shell game. Why would he not want to end it as soon as possible to put that extra fuck you on it because "conor didn't belong?"

That's just my .02

The narrative is that Floyd gave up the first 3 rounds then dominated the rest of the fight.

I question whether these people even remember the fight and watched it more than once.

The fight was competitive until 9 and a half Rounds in, at which point Conor gassed hard and Floyd crushed him like a bug.

Are we supposed to believe Floyd just played with him / took 9 and a half rounds off? The bias, hate and the level of mental gymnastics required for people to have such strong conviction in this is baffling.

These types don't listen either. Doesnt matter how many elite boxers, legends and trainers refute it.

 

[itaintsafe]

Floyd would have loved to KO conor early on, if he could have. He couldn't. The same way Jones would have loved to finish Reyes/Santos/Smith early on. People still say "he wasn't motivated" etc. Floyd knew the risks and played it safe, certainly didn't carry him.

 

[MescalineDreams]

People are stoooopid.

I mean, what other time has Floyd employed a walking forward without throwing punches strategy against any top fighter?

Are you idiots going to tell me as well that Floyd was putting 100% skill and effort into this fight because Conor posed a threat?

I can't remember the last time that Floyd fought so casually, like he was fighting an amateur.

People still arguing and thinking that Conor "won" rounds when the reality is that Floyd didn't fight in those rounds and gave them away freely.

Using forward pressure was a means of making Conor constantly adjust his stance and move, it's a way to gas him out quicker. Not only that but Conor's inside game is pretty weak. He's the type that needs distance, space to move in order to throw an ideal punch.

Floyd always changes his style according to his opponent, he adjusts in the ring. That style was the most effective means of fighting Conor.

Someone who had some of the longest reach Floyd has ever fought and knew how to use it reasonably well. On top of being a south paw and having an unorthodox style. Gotta take into account this is a 40 year old Floyd as well. For him, he didnt look good. Technically, defensively, reflex wise. All looked like a shell of himself. So it's silly to expect the same level of performance we've seen from a younger Floyd.

That said, it wasnt just a few rounds either. Rounds 4,5,6 were all competitive and close. 7 was probably the most clear and dominant out of the bunch. 8 was again another close round and 9 was competitive for about half a round then Conor's gas completely gave out and Floyd crushed him.

Even the commentators said through the 8th and 9th round that they're shocked Conor has had such sustained success.

So, essentially what you and others are suggesting is that Floyd took 9 rounds off of the fight. Then decided to go 100%, miraculously around the same time Conor's gas completely gave out.

 

[MescalineDreams]

Anybody with a brain knows that

Brains are hard to find in fans who are ruled by their emotions instead of logic.

 

[Cat Biscuits]

Using forward pressure was a means of making Conor constantly adjust his stance and move, it's a way to gas him out quicker. Not only that but Conor's inside game is pretty weak. He's the type that needs distance, space to move in order to throw an ideal punch.

Floyd always changes his style according to his opponent, he adjusts in the ring. That style was the most effective means of fighting Conor.

Someone who had some of the longest reach Floyd has ever fought and knew how to use it reasonably well. On top of being a south paw and having an unorthodox style. Gotta take into account this is a 40 year old Floyd as well. For him, he didnt look good. Technically, defensively, reflex wise. All looked like a shell of himself. So it's silly to expect the same level of performance we've seen from a younger Floyd.

That said, it wasnt just a few rounds either. Rounds 4,5,6 were all competitive and close. 7 was probably the most clear and dominant out of the bunch. 8 was again another close round and 9 was competitive for about half a round then Conor's gas completely gave out and Floyd crushed him.

Even the commentators said through the 8th and 9th round that they're shocked Conor has had such sustained success.

So, essentially what you and others are suggesting is that Floyd took 9 rounds off of the fight. Then decided to go 100%, miraculously around the same time Conor's gas completely gave out.

Floyd didn't take 9 rounds off. He didnt take 9 rounds seriously...

This fight wasn't characteristic of his typical boxing against opponents who had the skill to beat him had Floyd made any critical mistake. Floyd was much more relaxed, and anyone who didn't have their eyes on Conor's dick the whole fight could tell.

Floyds biggest amount of effort in the entire fight was the ending of the fight.

Keep sucking Conor's dick, it's not going to change the fact that Floyd toyed with him and Conor accomplished nothing the entire fight other than what Floyd was willing to give to him.

I only wish everyone could've seen what the fight would've looked like had Floyd been 100% serious and wasn't fucking around for an easy payday.

 

[Iroh]

Well Floyd seldomly gets hit with anything clean.

However, it's not Floyd's style to allow himself to hit with anything whatsoever. This is a man who spoke frequently about longevity in the sport and maintaining his health and wits about him after retirement.

But again, I see this as largely a product of Floyd's age as well. I don't think anyone would deny a flawless performance if it were a younger floyd.

I really wonder how much his age hinders him with all the resources he has at his disposal. Dude could have his own personal acai berries farm, for all I know.

 

[Bjjpitbull8]

Show me another fight where floyd walked forward with a high guard letting his opponent tee off.

Show me another fight where floyd was laughing and mugging for the camera between rounds.

I'll wait . . . No I won't because it doesn't exist.

Floyd knew what he had in front of him and fought accordingly - put on a show, have fun then when he got sick of it turn up the tempo and stop the guy with no actual boxing experience except fairytale stories told by him.

Exactly

 

[frye666]

By "not" finishing him when he could have, he carried Conor. Even if Floyd was going normal, he would have beat Conor by round three. Floyd knew what he was dealing with the first 30 seconds of the fight.
Take this gif for example. A lot of you are saying the cat here is NOT carrying the mouse just because the cat didn't finish the mouse. But really, how well is the mouse controlling this fight?

 

[Kuggk]

Brains are hard to find in fans who are ruled by their emotions instead of logic.

Odd. I don't see anyone emotional in this thread. "Teddy Atlas said it so it must be true"

 

[Kuggk]

Show me another fight where floyd walked forward with a high guard letting his opponent tee off.

Show me another fight where floyd was laughing and mugging for the camera between rounds.

I'll wait . . . No I won't because it doesn't exist.

Floyd knew what he had in front of him and fought accordingly - put on a show, have fun then when he got sick of it turn up the tempo and stop the guy with no actual boxing experience except fairytale stories told by him.

This guy gets it

 

[MescalineDreams]

Floyd didn't take 9 rounds off. He didnt take 9 rounds seriously...

This fight wasn't characteristic of his typical boxing against opponents who had the skill to beat him had Floyd made any critical mistake. Floyd was much more relaxed, and anyone who didn't have their eyes on Conor's dick the whole fight could tell.

Floyds biggest amount of effort in the entire fight was the ending of the fight.

Keep sucking Conor's dick, it's not going to change the fact that Floyd toyed with him and Conor accomplished nothing the entire fight other than what Floyd was willing to give to him.

I only wish everyone could've seen what the fight would've looked like had Floyd been 100% serious and wasn't fucking around for an easy payday.

Yes just like Atlas is sucking his dick

And the countless other boxers who refuted the bullshit you're suggesting

All on Conors dick obviously

You dont have a clue what you're talking about just like 99% of your other shitty posts.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

4 5 and 6 were close. 7th was a dominant floyd round. Then the 8th was close.

Are we to believe that he took the entire fight off?

The narrative is that Floyd gave up the first 3 rounds but dominated the rest of the fight, that actually isnt true.

Up until Conor got tired, it was a lot more competitive than I think a lot of people tend to realize.

It took me several times of going back and rewatching to see it.

I disagree about 4-6. Floyd very clearly landed the better shots. I think people's expectations for Conor were so low that minor success seems massive.