Tamper Tantrum (Mueller Thread v. 17)

[Quequeg]

All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele.
http://freebeacon.com/uncategorized/fusion-gps-washington-free-beacon/
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Doesn't your statement contradict the statement above?

I guess I will have to concede this small point if the statement by free beacon is accurate.

 

[waiguoren]

The statements directly from the organization that commissioned Steele, say otherwise.

Source? The Vanity Fair article you posted does not say this.

The Vanity Fair article cites an anonymous friend of Glenn Simpson, not Fusion GPS itself:

In September 2015, as the Republican primary campaign was heating up, he was hired to compile an opposition-research dossier on Donald Trump. Who wrote the check? Simpson, always secretive, won’t reveal his client’s identity. However, according to a friend who had spoken with Simpson at the time, the funding came from a “Never Trump” Republican and not directly from the campaign war chests of any of Trump’s primary opponents.

 

[Quequeg]

In relation to the FISA warrant, I'll answer both

Do u remember what Comey said about the truth of the Dossier?

Answer my question as stated.

 

[SBJJ]

Answer my question as stated.

I did. Read it again

I care about both.

 

[Quequeg]

I did. Read it again

I care about both.

Only in relation to the FISA warrant?

 

[Darkballs]

Post it

You are completely wrong.

The AP even had to retract the original story

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ired-firm-later-linked-steele-dossier-n815256

Here u go

Why do u insist on pushing this obvious untruth?

I already posted the source. It was the reported statement by the people who actually commissioned Steele. Here is that source again:

The Steele dossier was first commissioned in 2011 for Fusion GPS which was run at the time by Glenn Simpson and three other former journalists at the Wall Street Journal. As for who first paid for Fusion GPS to commission Steele, we only have Fusion's statements that it was from a “Never Trump Republican and not directly from the campaign war chests of any of Trump’s primary opponents."
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/201...ssian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

The article you post is how the Washington Free Beacon said that they commissioned Fusion GPS in 2012 to provide them with information on Trump. Or in their own words, from the article you posted "we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton,"

This was a year after Fusion had accepted money from a “Never Trump Republican and not directly from the campaign war chests of any of Trump’s primary opponents." At no point does your article make the claim that the gathering of information that would form the dossier didn't start until the Washington Free Beacon came calling.

 

[SBJJ]

Only in relation to the FISA warrant?

Both of course. But in FISA is where it really matters

But how bout what Comey said under oath(I believe) about the truth of the Dossier

 

[SBJJ]

I already posted the source. It was the reported statement by the people who actually commissioned Steele. Here is that source again:

The Steele dossier was first commissioned in 2011 for Fusion GPS which was run at the time by Glenn Simpson and three other former journalists at the Wall Street Journal. As for who first paid for Fusion GPS to commission Steele, we only have Fusion's statements that it was from a “Never Trump Republican and not directly from the campaign war chests of any of Trump’s primary opponents."
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/201...ssian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

The article you post is how the Washington Free Beacon said that they commissioned Fusion GPS in 2012 to provide them with information on Trump. Or in their own words, from the article you posted "we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton,"

This was a year after Fusion had accepted money from a “Never Trump Republican and not directly from the campaign war chests of any of Trump’s primary opponents." At no point does your article make the claim that the gathering of information that would form the dossier didn't start until the Washington Free Beacon came calling.

Your article doesn't support what u claimed. And that report came out before we actually learned the real timeline

 

[Quequeg]

Both of course. But in FISA is where it really matters

But how bout what Comey said under oath(I believe) about the truth of the Dossier[/Q
Without checking I believe he said it was "unverified", since then significant parts of the dossier have proven true.

 

[SBJJ]

Source? The Vanity Fair article you posted does not say this.

The Vanity Fair article cites an anonymous friend of Glenn Simpson, not Fusion GPS itself:

In September 2015, as the Republican primary campaign was heating up, he was hired to compile an opposition-research dossier on Donald Trump. Who wrote the check? Simpson, always secretive, won’t reveal his client’s identity. However, according to a friend who had spoken with Simpson at the time, the funding came from a “Never Trump” Republican and not directly from the campaign war chests of any of Trump’s primary opponents.

Read this again Dark

 

[Darkballs]

LOLOLOLOL

Seriously dude. Are you for real?

You're now making the claim that you only brought up entrapment to let us know that it was "a thing." I don't think anyone needed help figuring out that it was "a thing." What we all wanted to know was why the fuck you and bob kept bring up entrapment for crimes that no one was charged with. We're still waiting for that. So far the only thing you've said it that they entrapped him and entrapment is "a thing."

I'm happy to stop talking about entrapment, which holds no legal significance in this conversation, and we can avoid numerous posts on what your definition of entrapment is.

 

[SBJJ]

Significant u say? I hope this is better than when u thought Conservatives funded it

I'm sorry man. You are just not up to speed on this. Go read up on it. And don't search CNN, HuffPo or Vanity Fair

 

[SBJJ]

You're now making the claim that you only brought up entrapment to let us know that it was "a thing." I don't think anyone needed help figuring out that it was "a thing." What we all wanted to know was why the fuck you and bob kept bring up entrapment for crimes that no one was charged with. We're still waiting for that. So far the only thing you've said it that they entrapped him and entrapment is "a thing."

I'm happy to stop talking about entrapment, which holds no legal significance in this conversation, and we can avoid numerous posts on what your definition of entrapment is.

Actually u needed help. Because u actually posted it was not a thing

I'm not sure if you are actually aware of the things u are posting

Do I need to Repost the conversation again?

 

[Darkballs]

Your article doesn't support what u claimed. And that report came out before we actually learned the real timeline

It's a direct quote from the article. A direct quote. It literally says the same thing I am saying.

 

[Darkballs]

Actually u needed help. Because u actually posted it was not a thing

I have repeatedly asserted that entrapment is an affirmative defense to be raised at crimes you are charged with. I have never claimed that it has any significance other than that, and continue to assert that there is no such legal term or relevance for potential entrapment.

 

[SBJJ]

The statements directly from the organization that commissioned Steele, say otherwise.

Ok Dark. Stop misleading/lying

Your Vanity Fair article does NOT support what u posted

 

[SBJJ]

I have repeatedly asserted that entrapment is an affirmative defense to be raised at crimes you are charged with. I have never claimed that it has any significance other than that, and continue to assert that there is no such legal term or relevance for potential entrapment.

I quoted your post. Enough already

I can post it again. U said what u said then accused others of doing it

 

[SBJJ]

The statements directly from the organization that commissioned Steele, say otherwise.

It's a direct quote from the article. A direct quote. It literally says the same thing I am saying.

The fact you do not see what is wrong here is telling

 

[Darkballs]

Ok Dark. Stop misleading/lying

Your Vanity Fair article does NOT support what u posted

Well anyone is welcome to search my source and see whether or not the quoted part of my text is a direct quote from the article.

 

[SBJJ]

Well anyone is welcome to search my source and see whether or not the quoted part of my text is a direct quote from the article.

The statement is NOT from the organization. It's just another untrue post of yours