Tamper Tantrum (Mueller Thread v. 17)

[Darkballs]

You just lied again. This is crazy

Please prove where I EVER said entrapment was a crime

Literally from a few hours ago, post #173:

Actually attempted entrapment is real.

Google it

 

[waiguoren]

Just stop, the original funding for dossier was from the Washington Free beacon

The Free beacon hired fusion GPS to do opposition research on Trump, fact

Are you admitting that the first statement is false?

 

[Quequeg]

Are you admitting that the first statement is false?

Is written English your second language?

 

[Quequeg]

Are you admitting that the first statement is false?

Dossier is just a word for a collection of facts gathered together. The beginning of the facts that became the dossier was funded by the Washington free beacon.

 

[SBJJ]

Jesus christ kido. This conversation started out about law enforcement using a "spy" to talk to the trump campaign was illegal. You and bob keep bringing up the Steele dossier, Hilary Clinton, the Clinton Foundation and a host of other unrelated bullshit. I've repeatedly asked both of you what the fuck this had to do with anything and tried to get you back on topic. Just read the posts around you and you've got bob posting youtube videos and making some vague accusations of when stories broke. I'm happy to stay on topic and wish you guys would too.

So we were talking about entrapment when...



And now were back to the Steele dossier. See how this is going?

The Steele dossier was first commissioned in 2011 for Fusion GPS which was run at the time by Glenn Simpson and three other former journalists at the Wall Street Journal. As for who first paid for Fusion GPS to commission Steele, we only have Fusion's statements that it was from a “Never Trump Republican and not directly from the campaign war chests of any of Trump’s primary opponents."
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/201...ssian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

So you're wrong. Not that it matter though, as the order of who commission Fusion or Steele has no legal relevance. If it's used at trial, the defense will be welcome to challenge any of it's findings, but it's inclusion in the warrant application along with hundreds of other sources in the 400 page document, was lawful, and no federal judge has ruled otherwise.

Please actually look at the date of your Vanity Fair article.

It's almost comical at this point

 

[SBJJ]

Literally from a few hours ago, post #173:

Let's try this again

Post where I said it was a crime. It is 100% a thing.

But again, where did I say it was a crime?

You really are not looking good here

 

[SBJJ]

Dossier is just a word for a collection of facts gathered together. The beginning of the facts that became the dossier was funded by the Washington free beacon.

You really are not reading what is being posted. It's being reported that nothing the free beacon funded went into the Dossier. The whole Steele/Russia investigating did not start until after the DNC took over

 

[Darkballs]

Dossier is just a word for a collection of facts gathered together. The beginning of the facts that became the dossier was funded by the Washington free beacon.

Well it's clear where the attempts to mislead are. Fusion got paid to collect information on trump. They hired Steele who was a former MI-6 guy who focused the majority of his career on Russia. Steele collects the information over a few years and by the time the 2016 election is gearing up Fusion is out shopping for buyers. Ultimately they shop the dossier out to both Republican and Democratic investigations.

Trying to put your finger somewhere in the middle of all that and declare this to be the start date that we should be concerned about is just dishonest. If you have a problem with the contents of the dossier, then address them. Refute them, give opposing evidence. But like the Mueller investigation as a whole, trump supporters aren't even trying. Instead it's just constant partisan attacks on the sources to try and paint them as nefarious so that we don't listen to what they have to say.

 

[SBJJ]

Jesus christ kido. This conversation started out about law enforcement using a "spy" to talk to the trump campaign was illegal. You and bob keep bringing up the Steele dossier, Hilary Clinton, the Clinton Foundation and a host of other unrelated bullshit. I've repeatedly asked both of you what the fuck this had to do with anything and tried to get you back on topic. Just read the posts around you and you've got bob posting youtube videos and making some vague accusations of when stories broke. I'm happy to stay on topic and wish you guys would too.

So we were talking about entrapment when...



And now were back to the Steele dossier. See how this is going?

The Steele dossier was first commissioned in 2011 for Fusion GPS which was run at the time by Glenn Simpson and three other former journalists at the Wall Street Journal. As for who first paid for Fusion GPS to commission Steele, we only have Fusion's statements that it was from a “Never Trump Republican and not directly from the campaign war chests of any of Trump’s primary opponents."
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/201...ssian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

So you're wrong. Not that it matter though, as the order of who commission Fusion or Steele has no legal relevance. If it's used at trial, the defense will be welcome to challenge any of it's findings, but it's inclusion in the warrant application along with hundreds of other sources in the 400 page document, was lawful, and no federal judge has ruled otherwise.

Please provide the source that the FISA applications had 100s of other sources in its 400 pages

 

[SBJJ]

Well it's clear where the attempts to mislead are. Fusion got paid to collect information on trump. They hired Steele who was a former MI-6 guy who focused the majority of his career on Russia. Steele collects the information over a few years and by the time the 2016 election is gearing up Fusion is out shopping for buyers. Ultimately they shop the dossier out to both Republican and Democratic investigations.

Trying to put your finger somewhere in the middle of all that and declare this to be the start date that we should be concerned about is just dishonest. If you have a problem with the contents of the dossier, then address them. Refute them, give opposing evidence. But like the Mueller investigation as a whole, trump supporters aren't even trying. Instead it's just constant partisan attacks on the sources to try and paint them as nefarious so that we don't listen to what they have to say.

Wow. Another lie

The Dossier did NOT start until the DNC took over

How many times are u going to post lies

 

[Darkballs]

Let's try this again

Post where I said it was a crime. It is 100% a thing.

But again, where did I say it was a crime?

You really are not looking good here

So when me and bob were talking about entrapment and potential entrapment being crimes and you chimed in with:

Actually attempted entrapment is real.

Google it

What did you mean? Did you mean:

It is 100% a thing.

Well congrats. You've proved that entrapment is "a thing."

 

[Darkballs]

Wow. Another lie

The Dossier did NOT start until the DNC took over

How many times are u going to post lies

The statements directly from the organization that commissioned Steele, say otherwise.

 

[Darkballs]

Please provide the source that the FISA applications had 100s of other sources in its 400 pages

We discussed this in depth in the Nunes thread. The length of the warrant application was discussed ad nauseam in the press, and in that thread, with plenty of sources. Both the House and Senate Intelligence Committees have spoken about other sources, and the federal judge reviewing the application has referred to other sources in the warrant. At no point has anyone involved in this warrant claimed that the Steele dossier was the only source. This has been discussed in every media format in the US, for months now.

I'm am not going to go chasing for sources for commonly known information just because you fail to recognize it, and I could care less what you think about that.

 

[SBJJ]

So when me and bob were talking about entrapment and potential entrapment being crimes and you chimed in with:



What did you mean? Did you mean:



Well congrats. You've proved that entrapment is "a thing."

No one I saw said it was a crime. What I saw was you say it wasn't real. Like it wasn't an actual thing

Let's try this. Post where someone says it's a crime. It's that simple

At this point you are just making silly accusations u can not back up. Multiple posters have asked you to support these accusations and u have yet to do so

At this point u did not even know who funded the Dossier. It's almost impossible to take u serious

Once again. Post where people were saying Entrapment was a crime. It's put up or shut up time

 

[SBJJ]

The statements directly from the organization that commissioned Steele, say otherwise.

Post it

You are completely wrong.

The AP even had to retract the original story

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ired-firm-later-linked-steele-dossier-n815256

Here u go

Why do u insist on pushing this obvious untruth?

 

[waiguoren]

Dossier is just a word for a collection of facts gathered together. The beginning of the facts that became the dossier was funded by the Washington free beacon.

All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele.
http://freebeacon.com/uncategorized/fusion-gps-washington-free-beacon/
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Doesn't your statement contradict the statement above?

 

[SBJJ]

So when me and bob were talking about entrapment and potential entrapment being crimes and you chimed in with:



What did you mean? Did you mean:



Well congrats. You've proved that entrapment is "a thing."

The 100% comment by me was that attempted entrapment was real. Because u kept acting as if there was no such thing

 

[Quequeg]

The 100% comment by me was that attempted entrapment was real. Because u kept acting as if there was no such thing

Do you care if the content of the dossier is true or just who paid for it?

 

[SBJJ]

What part of potential entrapment not being a thing do you not understand?

Actually attempted entrapment is real.

Google it

No. Neither entrapment nor attempted entrapment, are federal crimes. They just aren't.

Post any statute and you'll have destroyed my argument.

I didn't say it was a crime. But it is an actual thing. Just google it

Because something is not a crime does not make it ok. But it's weird that you would say the attempting of entrapment is not an actual thing

LOLOLOLOL

Seriously dude. Are you for real?

U actual insult people for things u actually do. You fuckin called it a THING then later changed it to a CRIME

Just LOL

 

[SBJJ]

Do you care if the content of the dossier is true or just who paid for it?

In relation to the FISA warrant, I'll answer both

Do u remember what Comey said about the truth of the Dossier?