Tamper Tantrum (Mueller Thread v. 17)

[bobgeese]

Where did he lie? Can u post it. I've actually posted sources debunking your lies.

If u can't post where he lied and are just calling him a liar because you can't debate him then that would be derailing

This is how it works...

U stated multiple times conservatives started the funding of the dossier. I then posted an AP article correcting that LIE. An actual retraction article.

See, that's how u disprove a fellow poster when they post an actual LIE. Now it's your turn to disprove Bob in that same way

^^^ He’s right you know.

 

[SBJJ]

^^^ He’s right you know.

It's just weird a guy that has actually been proven to post lies in this thread would call another poster a liar

He still has yet to retract the posts that have been proven untrue

 

[Darkballs]

Where did he lie? Can u post it. I've actually posted sources debunking your lies.

If u can't post where he lied and are just calling him a liar because you can't debate him then that would be derailing

This is how it works...

U stated multiple times conservatives started the funding of the dossier. I then posted an AP article correcting that LIE. An actual retraction article.

See, that's how u disprove a fellow poster when they post an actual LIE. Now it's your turn to disprove Bob in that same way

Well I was actually giving bob the benefit of the doubt by calling him a liar. The only other option is that he is profoundly stupid. Those are the only two ways you can arrive at bob's conclusions.

 

[Darkballs]

Well, you’re wrong. Once you admit that, than I’ll move on to the next detail.

Then tell me what story broke bob and why it matters. That is literally the only thing you need to do to prove me wrong.

 

[SBJJ]

Well I was actually giving bob the benefit of the doubt by calling him a liar. The only other option is that he is profoundly stupid. Those are the only two ways you can arrive at bob's conclusions.

I'd be careful with the insults. I'm not sure it's being allowed now the way it was in the past

Anyway. You have actually been proven to be untruthful in this thread. I've yet to see u post any sources for your accusations.

You have been asked by multiple posters for sources on some of your other claims but u just ignore them

I think u calling Bob stupid sort of shows u have decided to concede. But are lashing out instead of just admitting it.

 

[Darkballs]

It's just weird a guy that has actually been proven to post lies in this thread would call another poster a liar

He still has yet to retract the posts that have been proven untrue

I stand by the statement that Conservative groups first commission Steele. I've also gone to painful lengths to stress just how little the order of who contact Steele means to either a warrant application or this convoluted attempted entrapment argument.

I again encourage you to explain to us just why we should give a shit.

 

[bobgeese]

Then tell me what story broke bob and why it matters. That is literally the only thing you need to do to prove me wrong.

Is this in what Franken asked Sessions?


“there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump's surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government,'"

 

[Darkballs]

I'd be careful with the insults. I'm not sure it's being allowed now the way it was in the past

Anyway. You have actually been proven to be untruthful in this thread. I've yet to see u post any sources for your accusations.

You have been asked by multiple posters for sources on some of your other claims but u just ignore them

I think u calling Bob stupid sort of shows u have decided to concede. But are lashing out instead of just admitting it.

I think you and bob are dishonest. And I stand by that and doubt it's a cardable offense. I said the only other option to dishonesty, would be stupidity.

What else can I conclude about two posters that are insisting that entrapment and attempted entrapment are crimes? You are either shockingly uninformed or lying. I don't see any other option, and that's not me trying to be spiteful.

There isn't anything for me to source here champ. I'm the one saying that entrapment is NOT a crime. There is nothing I can source for that, because it's a goddamn negative.

Seriously buddy, think about it. My argument is wide open here. If you can post a single federal statute that shows entrapment to be a crime, you've won, and completely destroyed my argument. Those statutes are freely available on the internet. Just let us know which one to look at and were good.

 

[Darkballs]

Is this in what Franken asked Sessions?


“there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump's surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government,'"

It was a ten minute video bob, and I do not remember the word for word encounter, nor do I have a transcript in front of me. If you tell me it's in there, great, I'll believe you. Now can you explain why it matters?

 

[bobgeese]

It was a ten minute video bob, and I do not remember the word for word encounter, nor do I have a transcript in front of me. If you tell me it's in there, great, I'll believe you. Now can you explain why it matters?

First you need to acknowledge it was in the question.

If you’re not willing to educate yourself on the subject, then just concede.

 

[SBJJ]

I stand by the statement that Conservative groups first commission Steele. I've also gone to painful lengths to stress just how little the order of who contact Steele means to either a warrant application or this convoluted attempted entrapment argument.

I again encourage you to explain to us just why we should give a shit.

Why are u bringing up multiple topics when asked to prove your lie?

The lie u posted that conservatives funded the Dossier has been proven false. It's that simple

U have yet to point out these lies Bob has told yet u have been proven to have lied in this thread

 

[SBJJ]

I think you and bob are dishonest. And I stand by that and doubt it's a cardable offense. I said the only other option to dishonesty, would be stupidity.

What else can I conclude about two posters that are insisting that entrapment and attempted entrapment are crimes? You are either shockingly uninformed or lying. I don't see any other option, and that's not me trying to be spiteful.

There isn't anything for me to source here champ. I'm the one saying that entrapment is NOT a crime. There is nothing I can source for that, because it's a goddamn negative.

Seriously buddy, think about it. My argument is wide open here. If you can post a single federal statute that shows entrapment to be a crime, you've won, and completely destroyed my argument. Those statutes are freely available on the internet. Just let us know which one to look at and were good.

You just lied again. This is crazy

Please prove where I EVER said entrapment was a crime

Are you honestly not paying attention to what is being discussed? You seem so confused

Now prove where either of us have lied in the same manner I PROVED you were dishonest

 

[Quequeg]

Why are u bringing up multiple topics when asked to prove your lie?

The lie u posted that conservatives funded the Dossier has been proven false. It's that simple

U have yet to point out these lies Bob has told yet u have been proven to have lied in this thread

Just stop, the original funding for dossier was from the Washington Free beacon, a conservative website.

 

[SBJJ]

Just stop, the original funding for dossier was from the Washington Free beacon, a conservative website.

Keep up. That's been disproven

The AP even had to retract the original reporting.

The Beacon hired Fusion. The DOSSIER was NOT funded until the DNC and Clinton Campaign took over

The fact u do not know this is scary. It's as if u don't read what is actually going on

 

[bobgeese]

Keep up. That's been disproven

The AP even had to retract the original reporting.

The Beacon hired Fusion. The DOSSIER was NOT funded until the DNC and Clinton Campaign took over

The fact u do not know this is scary. It's as if u don't read what is actually going on

It’s almost like they have no idea they’ve been swallowing propaganda.

 

[waiguoren]

Just stop, the original funding for dossier was from the Washington Free beacon, a conservative website.

Since its launch in February of 2012, the Washington Free Beacon has retained third party firms to conduct research on many individuals and institutions of interest to us and our readers. In that capacity, during the 2016 election cycle we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton. All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.

Representatives of the Free Beacon approached the House Intelligence Committee today and offered to answer what questions we can in their ongoing probe of Fusion GPS and the Steele dossier. But to be clear: We stand by our reporting, and we do not apologize for our methods. We consider it our duty to report verifiable information, not falsehoods or slander, and we believe that commitment has been well demonstrated by the quality of the journalism that we produce. The First Amendment guarantees our right to engage in news-gathering as we see fit, and we intend to continue doing just that as we have since the day we launched this project.

Matthew Continetti
Editor in Chief

Michael Goldfarb
Chairman

http://freebeacon.com/uncategorized/fusion-gps-washington-free-beacon/

 

[SBJJ]

It's really scary that some people do not even know who actually funded the Dossier.

And these same people call others liars and stupid.

It's a very weird time to be alive

 

[Quequeg]

Since its launch in February of 2012, the Washington Free Beacon has retained third party firms to conduct research on many individuals and institutions of interest to us and our readers. In that capacity, during the 2016 election cycle we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton. All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.

Representatives of the Free Beacon approached the House Intelligence Committee today and offered to answer what questions we can in their ongoing probe of Fusion GPS and the Steele dossier. But to be clear: We stand by our reporting, and we do not apologize for our methods. We consider it our duty to report verifiable information, not falsehoods or slander, and we believe that commitment has been well demonstrated by the quality of the journalism that we produce. The First Amendment guarantees our right to engage in news-gathering as we see fit, and we intend to continue doing just that as we have since the day we launched this project.

Matthew Continetti
Editor in Chief

Michael Goldfarb
Chairman

http://freebeacon.com/uncategorized/fusion-gps-washington-free-beacon/

The Free beacon hired fusion GPS to do opposition research on Trump, fact. When Trump became the nominee they stopped.

 

[Quequeg]

For the record more and more of the dossier are being proven true everyday, but Trumptards don't care about the truth just defending their cult leader.

 

[Darkballs]

Why are u bringing up multiple topics when asked to prove your lie?

Jesus christ kido. This conversation started out about law enforcement using a "spy" to talk to the trump campaign was illegal. You and bob keep bringing up the Steele dossier, Hilary Clinton, the Clinton Foundation and a host of other unrelated bullshit. I've repeatedly asked both of you what the fuck this had to do with anything and tried to get you back on topic. Just read the posts around you and you've got bob posting youtube videos and making some vague accusations of when stories broke. I'm happy to stay on topic and wish you guys would too.

So we were talking about entrapment when...

The lie u posted that conservatives funded the Dossier has been proven false. It's that simple

And now were back to the Steele dossier. See how this is going?

The Steele dossier was first commissioned in 2011 for Fusion GPS which was run at the time by Glenn Simpson and three other former journalists at the Wall Street Journal. As for who first paid for Fusion GPS to commission Steele, we only have Fusion's statements that it was from a “Never Trump Republican and not directly from the campaign war chests of any of Trump’s primary opponents."
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/201...ssian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

So you're wrong. Not that it matter though, as the order of who commission Fusion or Steele has no legal relevance. If it's used at trial, the defense will be welcome to challenge any of it's findings, but it's inclusion in the warrant application along with hundreds of other sources in the 400 page document, was lawful, and no federal judge has ruled otherwise.