Tamper Tantrum (Mueller Thread v. 17)

[Joe]

speaking of useful idiots.

 

[waiguoren]

Targeted attacks were on July 27, 2016 - the same day Trump publicly asked Russia to hack Clinton. Huh. What a coincidence.

According to the new indictment, the spearphising attempts began on April 6, 2016 at the latest. Trump made his "Russia, if you're listening,..." comment on July 27, 2016.

 

[Darkballs]

That's false.

According to the new indictment, the spearphising attempts began on April 6, 2016 at the latest. Trump made his "Russia, if you're listening,..." comment on July 27, 2016.

And then the first actual hacks on DNC/Clinton's personal servers, began that day. You think a poster like yourself so concerned with honesty would mention that.

Do you not think when Russia heard then candidate Trump encourage them to violate our election laws, they were in fact emboldened to do so?

 

[HOLA]

Two things that are particularly interesting to speculate on are #43 and #44 from the indictment. https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

#43 says a candidate for congress requested stolen documents from them and received what they asked for. Who is this person? Were they elected? How did they know who to ask?

#44 talks about how they were in contact with a person in regular contact with senior members of the Trump campaign.

I"m gonna guess #43 is Matt Gaetz, #44 is Roger Stone.

 

[HOLA]

speaking of useful idiots.

God, I hope Hannity goes down when this is all wrapped up. Somebody somewhere has to be listening to his nightly calls with Trump.

 

[Rational Poster]

God, I hope Hannity goes down when this is all wrapped up. Somebody somewhere has to be listening to his nightly calls with Trump.

They're all connected.

 

[Rational Poster]

@Quipling I think there is some new stuff to include in the new thread now too..

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

nevermind @HOLA covered my question

 

[M3t4tr0n]

That's false.

According to the new indictment, the spearphising attempts began on April 6, 2016 at the latest. Trump made his "Russia, if you're listening,..." comment on July 27, 2016.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...-same-day-trump-asked-russia-to-hack-her.html

As was quickly noticed by a number of observers, July 27, 2016 is the same day that Trump made his infamous and seemingly facetious request to “Russia” to find emails from Clinton’s Secretary of State tenure that she had deleted, on the grounds that they were purely personal, before turning over her server archive to the State Department. Trump made the remarks—”Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” at a press conference in Doral, Florida.

Some context: According to the indictment, Russian operatives had already hacked and attempted to hack the Democratic National Committee and other Clinton-related targets before July. (The indictment says the hacking started in March.) What’s being alleged (with seemingly intentional specificity) is that the Russians didn’t target Clinton’s “personal office” until the day that Trump asked them to

Try again

 

[HOLA]

So, let's see. What's the tally so far?

Benghazi: 0 indictments. 0 guilty pleas.

Trump/ Russia: 35 indictments. 5 guilty pleas. More to come.

Bigly winning.

 

[Joe]

God, I hope Hannity goes down when this is all wrapped up. Somebody somewhere has to be listening to his nightly calls with Trump.

Never forget this (knowing?)accomplice, his Russian talking points and what channel he pushed them on

 

[Ophydian]

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...-same-day-trump-asked-russia-to-hack-her.html



Try again

In politics there are no coincidences

 

[Joe]

 

[HomerThompson]

I would legit throw a party if Hannity got thrown in jail after the dust settles.

That guy is a complete scumbag, and a danger to my country.

 

[waiguoren]

And then the first actual hacks on DNC/Clinton servers, began that day. You think a poster like yourself so concerned with honesty would mention that.

Do you not think when Russia heard then candidate Trump encourage them to violate our election laws, they were in fact emboldened to do so?

You're mixing up two distinct things:

(1) The release of Clinton's ~32,000 missing State Department e-mails, first requested in 2014
(2) Russia's GRU infiltrating DCCC and DNC networks.

Obviously the e-mails that Trump requested (1) would not be available on the DCCC or DNC networks (2).

On July 27, 2016, Trump asked publicly for Russia to "find" the approximately 32,000 Clinton State Department e-mails that Clinton withheld from Congress in 2014 on the grounds that the e-mails were of a personal nature.



Also, according to pages 7--8 of the new indictment:

[O]n or about July 27, 2016, the Conspirators attempted after hours to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton's personal office. At or around the same time, they also targeted seventy-six email addresses at the domain for the Clinton Campaign.

But there is no connection between deleted State Department e-mails and the DNC/DCCC networks.

And then the first actual hacks on DNC/Clinton servers, began that day.

This totally contradicts the new indictment, according to which there were multiple GRU-led "actual hacks" starting months before July 27. For example (page 11):

Between on or about May 25, 2016 and June 1, 2016, the Conspirators hacked the DNC Microsoft Exchange Server and stole thousands of emails from the work accounts of DNC employees.

....

For example, on or about April 22, 2016, the Conspirators compressed gigabytes of data from DNC computers, including opposition research. The Conspirators later moved the compressed DNC data using X-Tunnel to a GRU-leased computer located in Illinois.

....


There are many more examples in the indictment. Also, Trump never called for Russia to "violate our election laws".

 

[waiguoren]

I love how Drump begs his daddy to help him durring the election and soon as he does Russia starts hacking.

This is false. For example, see the article that you posted:

According to the indictment, Russian operatives had already hacked and attempted to hack the Democratic National Committee and other Clinton-related targets before July. (The indictment says the hacking started in March.)

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

Two things that are particularly interesting to speculate on are #43 and #44 from the indictment. https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

#43 says a candidate for congress requested stolen documents from them and received what they asked for. Who is this person? Were they elected? How did they know who to ask?

#44 talks about how they were in contact with a person in regular contact with senior members of the Trump campaign.

I"m gonna guess #43 is Matt Gaetz, #44 is Roger Stone.

44 is either Stone or Page .

I didn't think Gaetz at all. I originally had pegged Nunes, Rohrbacher, Ryan, Jordan as likely suspects .Though a new challenger appeared thanks to reddit:

Jason Chaffetz

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

I would legit throw a party if Hannity got thrown in jail after the dust settles.

That guy is a complete scumbag, and a danger to my country.

Maybe let him and Paulie share a cell

 

[Rational Poster]

44 is either Stone or Page .

I didn't think Gaetz at all. I originally had pegged Nunes, Rohrbacher, Ryan, Jordan as likely suspects .Though a new challenger appeared thanks to reddit:

Jason Chaffetz

Did someone call for Jason Chaffetz?

 

[Joe]

That doesn't sound good