Syrian Rebels give up Homs

[KOQ24]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27252396

surprised nothing was posted about this.

basically;

-rebels are allowed to leave the city
-government takes control of the city

rebels gave up syrias 3rd biggest city.
one more sign assad stays in power,though hes likely lost the northern and eastern desert areas for good

 

[Zankou]

Good. The sooner that shitty war ends the better, and if the rebels are confined to the sparsely populated northeast, so much the better.

 

[KOQ24]

Good. The sooner that shitty war ends the better, and if the rebels are confined to the sparsely populated northeast, so much the better.

They also control the turkish border areas in the north which still provides a lifeline for them.

 

[Fronk]

They only held a very small portion of the city in the old quarters. I think its estimated 2000 rebels were inside the area defending it. Had been under siege for over a year but no real attempt to reclaim it from the goverment. Most likely the devastating suicide attacks in the goverment held areas killing hundred of civilians in the latest weeks had the patience running thin amongst the locals. So they were pressured into a deal like this where rebels are allowed to leave the city with all the light weaponry they could carry.

I see no end in sight for this war though. It's going to take years and years. Rebels are still maintaining the offensive in some areas.

US has also stepped up their support again in the latest months and it looks like a bunch of TOWs have been getting into the rebels hands. This fact should get more attention.

 

[tkotom]

Good. The sooner that shitty war ends the better, and if the rebels are confined to the sparsely populated northeast, so much the better.

Not really for "the better" considering there are large numbers of Christian in the northeast that have suffered because of the rebels and their islamist allies.

 

[KOQ24]

has anybody watched recent vids of ISIS?

none of these guys look like theyre even syrians or iraqis

 

[Zankou]

has anybody watched recent vids of ISIS?

none of these guys look like theyre even syrians or iraqis

No kidding. Just look at this guy ... not exactly Arab looking. I'm starting to believe the rumours of a CIA front.

 

[Tos]

they made it

[YT]3gyrsAibMv4[/YT]

 

[awesomesarus]

Good. The sooner that shitty war ends the better, and if the rebels are confined to the sparsely populated northeast, so much the better.

Aren't the Kurds controlling the Northeast? I get the impression that they are going strong and I seriously hope they can kill the rebels when they step into their territory.

 

[Zankou]

Yeah the Kurd militias are controlling the Northeast. I think the remaining Islamist rebels are really more in the east, next to Iraq border, though I'm not really sure. Maybe somebody who knows can post.

Kurds really deserve their own nation more than just about any other people btw. Should be a Kurdistan for sure.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Yeah the Kurd militias are controlling the Northeast. I think the remaining Islamist rebels are really more in the east, next to Iraq border, though I'm not really sure. Maybe somebody who knows can post.

Kurds really deserve their own nation more than just about any other people btw. Should be a Kurdistan for sure.

Why does it have to be Kurdistan?

Why not Kurdifornia, or Kurdidelphia, or Kurdwaukee?

 

[M o A]

Why does it have to be Kurdistan?

Why not Kurdifornia, or Kurdidelphia, or Kurdwaukee?

Because we ourselves refer to it as Kurdistan...(I'm Kurdish)

 

[tkotom]

Yeah the Kurd militias are controlling the Northeast. I think the remaining Islamist rebels are really more in the east, next to Iraq border, though I'm not really sure. Maybe somebody who knows can post.

Kurds really deserve their own nation more than just about any other people btw. Should be a Kurdistan for sure.

The ethnic groups like the Assyrians and others have been in those areas much longer than the Kurds and have lived under extremist Islamic persecution for 2 millennia. Not only that but they outnumber the Kurds. The only reason why common people like yourself don't write comments about them on message boards and the like is because they're not loud and violent but rather peaceful and advanced people who prefer not to form little Islamist brigades but rather escape the persecution and subhuman treatment that they receive because of their religious and ethnic background.
Are we going to forget the genocide that the Kurds committed against Christians in that part of the world, killing millions along with the Turks.

Why the fixation on just a Kurdistan, why is there no support but rather widespread criticism of Jews getting land or Assyrians or other Levantines, the people who actually made a difference in history in that part of the world.

Christians and Jews suffered like no others in that part of the world.

It is an interesting discussion that's for sure.

 

[tkotom]

Because we ourselves refer to it as Kurdistan...(I'm Kurdish)

That was an interesting AV for being a Kurd.. I have Kurd friends and they would not approve.. lol.

 

[Zankou]

The ethnic groups like the Assyrians and others have been in those areas much longer than the Kurds and have lived under extremist Islamic persecution for 2 millennia. Not only that but they outnumber the Kurds. The only reason why common people like yourself don't write comments about them on message boards and the like is because they're not loud and violent but rather peaceful and advanced people who prefer not to form little Islamist brigades but rather escape the persecution and subhuman treatment that they receive because of their religious and ethnic background.
Are we going to forget the genocide that the Kurds committed against Christians in that part of the world, killing millions along with the Turks.

Why the fixation on just a Kurdistan, why is there no support but rather widespread criticism of Jews getting land or Assyrians or other Levantines, the people who actually made a difference in history in that part of the world.

Christians and Jews suffered like no others in that part of the world.

It is an interesting discussion that's for sure.

Islam only has been in existence for about 1300 years, so 2 millenia is a bit pushing it. Those regions were barely Christian for a few centuries until they became predominantly Muslim.

I almost never hear anybody advocate for a Kurdistan, so I'm not sure where the idea of a fixation comes from, but with the Kurds you have 30 million of them in a relatively confined, contiguous area that covers well-defined peripheral regions of several states. Thus it's an ideal subject for its own nation state.

Syriac Christians and Jews tend to be ancient remnant populations that live in the midst of Muslim majority areas, so it makes little sense to talk about a "Christian Syriac nation." Plus there's very few of them left. I don't know where you get this "outnumbering" concept from. There's like 2 million Assyrians total, spread everywhere across the globe. One of my wife's best friends is Syriac Christian, and there are hardly any of them.

I'm not claiming the Kurds are the most wondrous civilization known to Man, but they are the fourth largest ethnic group in Western Asia, they live in a comparatively isolated contiguous area where they are totally dominant in the population, and it makes little sense for their region to be divided up between Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkey. If you were drawing up a rational map of nation states in the region, based on existing populations, it's a total no-brainer.

 

[KOQ24]

Yeah the Kurd militias are controlling the Northeast. I think the remaining Islamist rebels are really more in the east, next to Iraq border, though I'm not really sure. Maybe somebody who knows can post.

Kurds really deserve their own nation more than just about any other people btw. Should be a Kurdistan for sure.

red-government
gray-ISIS
green-other rebels
yellow-kurds

 

[InternetHero]

Why does it have to be Kurdistan?

Why not Kurdifornia, or Kurdidelphia, or Kurdwaukee?

My money is on Kurdwaukee.

Maybe in honor of the new Star Wars films they could call it Kurdchewbacca.

 

[tkotom]

Islam only has been in existence for about 1300 years, so 2 millenia is a bit pushing it. Those regions were barely Christian for a few centuries until they became predominantly Muslim.

I almost never hear anybody advocate for a Kurdistan, so I'm not sure where the idea of a fixation comes from, but with the Kurds you have 30 million of them in a relatively confined, contiguous area that covers well-defined peripheral regions of several states. Thus it's an ideal subject for its own nation state.

Syriac Christians and Jews tend to be ancient remnant populations that live in the midst of Muslim majority areas, so it makes little sense to talk about a "Christian Syriac nation." Plus there's very few of them left. I don't know where you get this "outnumbering" concept from. There's like 2 million Assyrians total, spread everywhere across the globe. One of my wife's best friends is Syriac Christian, and there are hardly any of them.

I'm not claiming the Kurds are the most wondrous civilization known to Man, but they are the fourth largest ethnic group in Western Asia, they live in a comparatively isolated contiguous area where they are totally dominant in the population, and it makes little sense for their region to be divided up between Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkey. If you were drawing up a rational map of nation states in the region, based on existing populations, it's a total no-brainer.

Well the Muslims invaded Syria while Muhammad was still alive so it is an easy 1400 years. But point taken. Still..

In Syria, the Syriac/Aramiac/Assyrians and others outnumber the Kurds at 2.3 million alone (In Syria), not to mention that all of that terrirtory was stolen (It would be like savages invading advanced USA and sending it back to the stone age -- like dumbass Mongol hordes burning the most advanced place no Earth in Baghdad) from them by the Kurds and brutal invaders through past genocide and modern murder and subhuman treatment. Look at what Israel did with very little land, they turned it into one of the most advanced countries in the world. This isn't a coincidence. Give this land to Kurds or others and you will get the shit heap that you see is the middle east today.

Assyrians are the original inhabitants of the cradle of civilization along with their contemporaries and equals the Babylonians. Hospitals, universities, engineering, mathematics, are just some of the things that we owe these people and their contemporaries the Persians and Babylonians. Pythagoras theorem is a Mesopotamian thing for example (Yes, sounds weird). There is a huge fixation in the communities in Australia for this Kurdistan support and it sickens me given how mistreated the original ancestors of the cradle of civilization are and how much land the Kurds already control.

If there were Nobel Prizes in antiquity, you could bet that Mesopotamia would have earned some. These people invented advanced mathematics, the Kurds and others would be lucky to invent a doorknob at any point in their history. No disrespect to the individuals, but this is the reality.

I understand your argument about Western Asia and whatnot but it is time that the Assyrians/Aramaics/Syriacs got some global recognition because they are what built that region; not the "Islamic Golden Age" and not any ancestors of genocidal butchers.

 

[Bloodworth]

its rough out there

 

[lfd0311]

Do your own research on Syria and the Muslim Brotherhood....Syria has been at War with the Brotherhood for years..the botherhood tried to kill Assads father...so Assad wipes out Every from of brotherhood from Syria...

I like how it's alway overlooked that we were fighting this self same group in the far Eastern sections of Iraq back in early 2008. Liberals willingly walk right by this little nugget of information..