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Social Sweden. Update: Came in Ferrari - applied for social benefits

How is that not serious? You held the same position with "Germans" raping girls in Spain. I'm asking you if the same applies to Swedes.

No, as usual you show that you either have a terrible memory or aren't capable of comprehensive reading. Every single time you write to me you've messed something up in your head and I have to correct you. I started out that thread writing that I wasn't surprised what kind of people it involved when it was a gang rape (tell me if you think the obvious insinuation is too hard for you to figure out), and then I pointed out that someone who said that they weren't Germans was wrong since they were German citizens and that's what was referred to. Only a complete idiot would fail to see the picture.
 
Since we are a couple of Swedes who write on this page, it would be a good idea to have a thread on information from Sweden and immigrants. Threads have been created before about Sweden that has been heavily exaggerated, such as that it would in some places resemble pure war zones. At present we have not lost the fight against the criminals and in the next few years, 10,000 new police officers will be appointed, since we have a small police force in comparison with the rest of Europe.

With a larger population that has been added quickly through immigration, we have not kept up with the turns. We see the result now that the ordinary Swede thinks that the welfare state you have been used to has become worse. Long queues in hospitals, large classes in school and police officers who wrestles with understaffing. And for the most narrow-minded Swede, then it is easy to blame foreigners.

We are in a phase now, and unfortunately we do so by attracting with higher salaries for police officers, teachers and hospital staff. I hope and believe in a balance again in a 5-10 year. Through my work I have knowledge of information that is classified as confidential. But nevertheless, some colleagues cannot leave without writing in closed Facebook groups or as anonymous accounts on various forums such as Flashback. I think they do this not by pure evil and to make matters worse, but in their own naive knowledge that they are doing society a service by providing information that our Swedish politicians are closing their eyes on.

The Swedish social service publishes how many people have received social contributions every year. Men, women and children. There is nothing about how many foreigners or how long they have been on welfare. Why would this be important to know what origin you are from?

Malmö is Sweden's third largest city and receives the most support money from the government towards others. Much due to our geographical position, but above all how many people who are not contributing. So here are some figures you can take your mind over.

Malmö, population 330,000

- 43% of other ethnic background
- 42,000 individuals are on social assistance
- 78% of other ethnic backgrounds are on social assistance
- many have been in grants for +35 years.

When you see these numbers you get a thinker. What should one do against those who will never contribute, who do not suffer from any bodily hindrance but claim to live in the twigs of terrible traumas from the past? Contributions are part of our Swedish welfare, but it costs for our treasury. Through my own conversations I have heard amazing things what foreigners think of Sweden. Things like that we have endless money resuscitations. That Sweden has the best reputation in the world and number 1 country to escape to. That we are generous and a tolerant people. It is clear that they have a lot of information about Sweden, but something that always becomes a surprise is when they find out how much we pay in tax. And that they do not understand why we have such high taxes, precisely because we can have a welfare state.

This is a great reason that a majority chooses to open a grocery store or a small restaurant. By stating the wrong declaration, they can counteract the loss through the tax. There are a lot of cheating in Sweden, and the Swedish Tax Agency has no honest chance of catching up with all the new small business that is created around the corner. How should we in Sweden be able to attract with education and to be employed when coming from a culture where entrepreneurial who is deeply rooted and where everything can be sold under one big open market?

Anyway. I start with the week's first news from Sweden. Not obscured or excessive, just a common news of culture crashes from left wing sources.
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https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/6jVaK3/barngang-trakasserar-boende-och-hotar-att-valdta

Children gang harasses residents and threatens to rape.

Residents in Grums has problems with a gang that threatens and harasses. The unique thing is that the members of the gang are children in their 8-12 age group.

Tenants in a residential area in Grums no longer dare to let their children play alone outdoors. The reason: A group of children have repeatedly attacked, both verbally and physically, against other children and adults in the area. - They have thrown rocks or beaten with sheet metal pipes and sticks so children started to bleed. The worst thing was that a child got throttle grip that left marks. But it is also about sexual threats: "I will rape you", they say, tell a resident to Home & Rental who was the first to report on the events in Grums.

The residents recently told the situation of their tenant association, which in turn contacted the municipality and the police. Lennart Hynynen is the municipal police and found out this about three weeks ago, when the tenant association invited him and representatives from the municipality to a meeting.

- I have never experienced that such small children do such things. They have poured garbage into the mailbox of people, jerked up flowers and threatened both children and adults sexistically. The residents are afraid, he says to Aftonbladet.

The gang that terrorizes the area consists of children of new arrivals, writes Home & Rental. And according to Lennart, it becomes extra problematic when the parents do not speak Swedish.

- We will meet the parents of these children and try to explain to them what their children are doing. We really hope, for the sake of house peace, that this will end, says Lennart Hynynen.

However, he is clear that it is difficult to do anything from a police point of view. Rather, it is the municipality's social service that is connected.

- The children do not understand what this will have for consequences. The municipality must step in and help them.

Grum's social manager Lotta Österlund Jansson will during the summer invite and try to gather everyone who lives in the area on a common activity day, where one should discuss what can be done to solve the problems.

- We want to discuss openly with them how to behave and how you want it in a residential area, she says to the New Wermland newspaper and adds that after the summer, more security walks will hopefully be carried out in the area.

The tenants that Hem & Hyra talked to agree that the situation cannot continue.

- We want to be able to live here together and then this must be resolved. You really do not want to start thinking in paths like "we and them" but this is how it has become now, they say to Home & Rental.

The incidents are said to have been going on for a year, but according to police Lennart Hynynen, the threats and violence have escalated in recent months.


thank you for posting from the front
 
No, as usual you show that you either have a terrible memory or aren't capable of comprehensive reading. Every single time you write to me you've messed something up in your head and I have to correct you. I started out that thread writing that I wasn't surprised what kind of people it involved when it was a gang rape (tell me if you think the obvious insinuation is too hard for you to figure out), and then I pointed out that someone who said that they weren't Germans was wrong since they were German citizens and that's what was referred to. Only a complete idiot would fail to see the picture.
I understood you perfectly. I was surprised at you hampering on the technicality of having a piece of paper that says one is a "German" while at the same time insinuating the very same thing you were quibbling.
But I am glad that you admit (through insinuation, tacitly as it may be) that being on German or Swedish soil and having German or Swedish papers in fact does not make one a German or a Swede. There may still be hope for you Sven after all.
 
I understood you perfectly. I was surprised at you hampering on the technicality of having a piece of paper that says one is a "German" while at the same time insinuating the very same thing you were quibbling.
But I am glad that you admit (through insinuation, tacitly as it may be) that being on German or Swedish soil and having German or Swedish papers in fact does not make one a German or a Swede. There may still be hope for you Sven after all.

There is nothing strange about it, the poster saying that was wrong and I pointed it out. It only became a discussion because he was too stupid to see obvious facts. In these cases nationality and ethnicity carry the same names so it all depends on the context.

Using incorrect arguments or facts is never acceptable in argumentation, regardless of whether the person shares your opinions or not.
 
There is nothing strange about it, the poster saying that was wrong and I pointed it out. It only became a discussion because he was too stupid to see obvious facts. In these cases nationality and ethnicity carry the same names so it all depends on the context.

Using incorrect arguments or facts is never acceptable in argumentation, regardless of whether the person shares your opinions or not.
What you were quibbling is the accurate distinction between nationality and ethnicity that is being obfuscated by calling those rapists "Germans" (technically right, but meaningless).
By this logic it is accurate to say "Swedes" are becoming more violent as long as those who are doing the raping, shooting, grenade exploding, etc have Swedish papers (which will be the case in not so distant future).
In Russian we have "Russkii" for an ethnic Russian like Fedor, and "Rossi'ianin" for a national Russian like Khabib. I'm curious, do you have words in Swedish language for an ethnic Swede vs a national Swede?
 
What you were quibbling is the accurate distinction between nationality and ethnicity that is being obfuscated by calling those rapists "Germans" (technically right, but meaningless).
By this logic it is accurate to say "Swedes" are becoming more violent as long as those who are doing the raping, shooting, grenade exploding, etc have Swedish papers (which will be the case in not so distant future).
In Russian we have "Russkii" for an ethnic Russian like Fedor, and "Rossi'ianin" for a national Russian like Khabib. I'm curious, do you have words in Swedish language for an ethnic Swede vs a national Swede?

It's not meaningless at all. Without that understanding you'll make yourself sound stupid at times, as the poster did in that thread when he stated something factually wrong. Intelligent and educated people care about things being correct, and if the person hadn't been a moron it wouldn't have been a dicussion, he would just have acknowledged his mistake and voiced his opinion in a better way. If you have an issue that they were called Germans the incorrect way is to say that it's wrong to call them Germans (it wasn't in that context) and a correct one would be to instead say that you think it's wrong to just state the nationality and not provide further information. Those that don't understand the point of being correct are probably too dumb to have relevant opinions anyway.

No, we don't have any particular words for that (not counting racial slurs and so on). If you talk about that you just describe it. "Rossi'ianin" didn't give me a single hit when I searched for it, by the way.
 
It's not meaningless at all. Without that understanding you'll make yourself sound stupid at times, as the poster did in that thread when he stated something factually wrong. Intelligent and educated people care about things being correct, and if the person hadn't been a moron it wouldn't have been a dicussion, he would just have acknowledged his mistake and voiced his opinion in a better way. If you have an issue that they were called Germans the incorrect way is to say that it's wrong to call them Germans (it wasn't in that context) and a correct one would be to instead say that you think it's wrong to just state the nationality and not provide further information. Those that don't understand the point of being correct are probably too dumb to have relevant opinions anyway.

No, we don't have any particular words for that (not counting racial slurs and so on). If you talk about that you just describe it. "Rossi'ianin" didn't give me a single hit when I searched for it, by the way.
Calling those middle easterners "German" in that context is as meaningful as calling them "men" or "human" even if you're correct in doing so. That's why people were laughing at it. Reminds me of "Belgians" mowing down the French in a truck.
Try "россиянин" vs "русский", English doesn't differentiate (and apparently Swedish either) but that sort of distinction is becoming more and more necessary. Otherwise soon it will be accurate to say that Swedes are all of a sudden becoming very violent and rape-y.
 
Calling those middle easterners "German" in that context is as meaningful as calling them "men" or "human" even if you're correct in doing so. That's why people were laughing at it. Reminds me of "Belgians" mowing down the French in a truck.
Try "россиянин" vs "русский", English doesn't differentiate (and apparently Swedish either) but that sort of distinction is becoming more and more necessary. Otherwise soon it will be accurate to say that Swedes are all of a sudden becoming very violent and rape-y.

I already covered that in my previous post.

If we get a word for that it will not be an official word that changes the name of the nationality. As evidenced by that the rest of world just calls all of you "Russians". It's of lesser importance though since all intelligent discussion of such a statement will inevitably lead to the reason, and those that would want to hide that fact can still phase themselves to do so.
 
A 50% decrease of immigrants in Sweden would probably be a great thing. I'm wondering though, if 50% would be enough to make Sweden great again.
 
I already covered that in my previous post.

If we get a word for that it will not be an official word that changes the name of the nationality. As evidenced by that the rest of world just calls all of you "Russians". It's of lesser importance though since all intelligent discussion of such a statement will inevitably lead to the reason, and those that would want to hide that fact can still phase themselves to do so.
At least you're willing to insinuate. That's progress. I predict the insinuation will soon become explicit for Swedes' own safety.
 
Taking it back to the start. Looking around on the web it seems like the victim's ex-wife is believed to have hired a hitman (who was described as blonde), so unless the Police is entirely off track this was not related to the gang shootings.
I didn't imply it was. I do think it was related to vibrant guests (or soon to be Swedes) apparently not liking the Swedish rule of law.
 
At least you're willing to insinuate. That's progress. I predict the insinuation will soon become explicit for Swedes' own safety.

Given that we've discussed this matter before and I've outright stated that immigration is the main reason why crime is on the rise, as I've even done in our current conversation, I can clearly tell that your ability to retain memories is severely diminished. Are you abusing any substances?
 
Given that we've discussed this matter before and I've outright stated that immigration is the main reason why crime is on the rise, as I've even done in our current conversation, I can clearly tell that your ability to retain memories is severely diminished. Are you abusing any substances?
A bit late, but glad it happened. Soon enough you may even want your government to record the ethnicity of your criminals and not just nationality. Sweden can only hope.
 
A bit late, but glad it happened. Soon enough you may even want your government to record the ethnicity of your criminals and not just nationality. Sweden can only hope.

You didn't answer, are you abusing substances? I said the same thing regarding immigrants on the previous page in this very discussion, so since you don't even remember that your brain must be seriously screwed up by something.
 
Ok. Long post...
Can you tell us more about the Swedish Bikini Team? Photos?

1992 was so long ago... they have a new version.

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I think she was later beheaded for not minding her husband or father, or both.
 
You didn't answer, are you abusing substances? I said the same thing regarding immigrants on the previous page in this very discussion, so since you don't even remember that your brain must be seriously screwed up by something.
We never touched on Sweden not recording ethnicity of their criminals. Maybe you're projecting.
What stuck was your hairsplitting on the technicality of someone's papers as a meaningful metric in discussing the type of crime that certain demographics bring. It's understandable to lash out after being proven wrong on immigration, so I don't hold it against you for wanting to keep some of the faulty reasoning that led to this disaster in the first place. Thankfully you guys are waking up at least a little bit.
 
We never touched on Sweden not recording ethnicity of their criminals. Maybe you're projecting.
What stuck was your hairsplitting on the technicality of someone's papers as a meaningful metric in discussing the type of crime that certain demographics bring. It's understandable to lash out after being proven wrong on immigration, so I don't hold it against you for wanting to keep some of the faulty reasoning that led to this disaster in the first place. Thankfully you guys are waking up at least a little bit.

That wasn't what you were talking about when you said "a bit late, but glad it happened" because you didn't bring up recording ethnicity until that same post. You said it in answer to a post where I explained yet again that I've always said that immigrants are the reason for increased crime. Ergo it's clear that you don't even remember the previous page, so you're probably a Russian junkie, or at least the stereotypical alcoholic. Too bad you're too scared to admit that you can't remember shit.

Your little attempt to now suddenly try to misrepresent what that other conversation was isn't helping you, especially not when you've proven that you can't even remember the current conversation.

A lot needs to be done in Sweden, but it's pretty rich to hear a Russian talk about waking up. You guys have a higher murder rate than pretty much every country we've received immigrants from. But yeah, even being more than 8 times lower than you is bad.
 
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