Summery in March (SCO v 31)

Bobby 3 Sticks said:
Barrs memo is quite interesting in the aspect that it narrowly looks at Russian government and collusion with tRUmp campagin and not intermediaries such as Kilimink and the members of the tower meeting. I look forward to the actual report provided it's not redacted all to hell

Once the actual report hits we can then move on either way. I trust Muellers findings
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Hope you don't mind if I quote you on that. o_Oo_Oo_O
 
method115 said:
It seems outrageous cause the report has been turned in and Muller said no collusion yet this man is insisting that their is. Wouldn't the man who lead the investigation know more than him and everyone else?
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No. Barr said "no collusion", not Mueller. Again, for the billionth time (not just to you), people need to stop the nonsense that Barr's letter was anything more than a white house press release. That's literally all it was.

And for facts sake, Mueller did an investigation and Schiff is in charge of a completely different one.

Last, Barr said there was going to be no CHARGEABLE collusion with Russia. He was careful with his words to not suggest there was no evidence of collusion.

the only thing that matters is "weeks, not months".

The report is going to come out, and it will be what it will be, which nobody has any clue of publicly. If you want to bank on it being anything but awful for Trump, go for it.
 
andnowweknow said:
Considering he knows substantially more than anyone in the public, I'm not sure why this is so outrageous or laughable. He's either right or wrong, but nothing you or Breitbart knows really adds anything to the conversation.

In fact, you're just hoping he's lying. For him, he's either lying or he's not.
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I just hope he continues with this crap till election 2020. This is a gift from heaven.
 
Factory said:
I just hope he continues with this crap till election 2020. This is a gift from heaven.
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only way he continues with it is if it's made clear in the Mueller report.

The election is already over if dipshit Trump actually gets his way with this healthcare nonsense. Talk about stupid, he's got several more weeks to milk this lie that he was cleared of all improprieties before the actual Mueller report drops, should have just stuck to that. while he could.
 
andnowweknow said:
Last, Barr said there was going to be no CHARGEABLE collusion with Russia. He was careful with his words to not suggest there was no evidence of collusion.
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That's not what he said. This is a direct quote:

The Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election

That was despite "multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign," he wrote.

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/24/7063...-been-briefed-on-mueller-investigation-report

Now if your position is that Barr is now lying to cover up for Trump well then I guess no one will be convinced of anything here.
 
Lol at Brennan now saying he must have been fed bad information when he went on TV and calledthe president of the US a traitor

Remember when posters were screaming because this perjuror and ACTUAL traitor had his security clearance revoked

Man, some posters faces must look like giant fried eggs at this point
 
andnowweknow said:
No. Barr said "no collusion", not Mueller. Again, for the billionth time (not just to you), people need to stop the nonsense that Barr's letter was anything more than a white house press release. That's literally all it was.

And for facts sake, Mueller did an investigation and Schiff is in charge of a completely different one.

Last, Barr said there was going to be no CHARGEABLE collusion with Russia. He was careful with his words to not suggest there was no evidence of collusion.

the only thing that matters is "weeks, not months".

The report is going to come out, and it will be what it will be, which nobody has any clue of publicly. If you want to bank on it being anything but awful for Trump, go for it.
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Jesus, are you still arguing that point? Barr would have to be crazy to misstate Mueller’s conclusions, knowing that the whole country is watching. He’s been AG before and he did so honorably—his reputation is at least as good as Mueller’s. Moreover, Barr and Mueller are friends. Mueller attended Barr’s kid’s wedding. There’s simply no chance that Mueller’s report contradicts Barr’s letter. You are prolonging your suffering. Just get over it and find a new subject.
 
andnowweknow said:
people need to stop the nonsense that Barr's letter was anything more than a white house press release. That's literally all it was.
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That's a harsh (implicit) attack on Barr's character. Why do you question his character this way?

Furthermore, given that Mueller publicly denounced Buzzfeed's misreporting of his investigation just two months ago, I think it's unlikely he would sit idly by if the AG blatantly mischaracterized his investigation.

andnowweknow said:
He was careful with his words to not suggest there was no evidence of collusion
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Barr represents the DOJ. His job was to give a fair, legally accurate summary of the Mueller report's conclusion. 'Collusion' is not even a legal term in this context, so of course Barr didn't use that word.
 
method115 said:
That's not what he said. This is a direct quote:

The Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election

That was despite "multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign," he wrote.

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/24/7063...-been-briefed-on-mueller-investigation-report

Now if your position is that Barr is now lying to cover up for Trump well then I guess no one will be convinced of anything here.
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I think he's parsing it further, and expects that the Mueller report will probably contain further evidence of dodgy Trump-Russia connections that don't rise to the legal standard of 'conspiracy' or 'coordination'.
 
JamesRussler said:
There’s simply no chance that Mueller’s report contradicts Barr’s letter.
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The letter could leave out important information from the Mueller report without contradicting the report. That's what he's going with, I think.
 
SBJJ said:
Lol at Brennan now saying he must have been fed bad information when he went on TV and calledthe president of the US a traitor
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Link?

My favorite was David Cay Johnston referring to Trump as a "Kremlin agent" on air last week, then backtracking when Glenn Greenwald called him out on it in their debate.
 
SBJJ said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...tion-regarding-president-trump-and-russia.amp
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Nice spin title in that article.

what he actually said was "I don't know if I received bad information" which isn't quite the same as "admitting he may have had bad information"

Brennan told Joe Scarborough he still believes there are clear examples of attempted inappropriate communication with the Russians, adding he was “not all that surprised that the high bar of criminal conspiracy was not met.”
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method115 said:
That's not what he said. This is a direct quote:

The Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election

That was despite "multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign," he wrote.

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/24/7063...-been-briefed-on-mueller-investigation-report

Now if your position is that Barr is now lying to cover up for Trump well then I guess no one will be convinced of anything here.
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now read that again, and realize his out is in direct reference to "CHARGEABLE" collusion. Saying the special counsel "did not find" is open to interpretation juxtaposed with the reality of evidence vs. chargeable evidence. They do not bring cases they don't think they can win, that is not a substitute for not having evidence nor is it an indication that there was none.

You haven 't even seen a complete sentence from the SCO report...that's a joke that this Barr letter is being flaunted as if it's anything more than a politically motivated white house document.

I'll wait for the actual report before taking Barr's cherry picking as gospel. You wouldn't accept it if it was the other way around and this was Eric Holder producing this sort of nonsense with respect to something Obama had done.
 
vengeful said:
Yet the answer to the question was cutoff....if you gonna have a clip like that, show the whole clip.
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you can't do that if you want to make a point but you really don't have a point. You clearly don't understand how Trumping works bro.
 
andnowweknow said:
now read that again, and realize his out is in direct reference to "CHARGEABLE" collusion. Saying the special counsel "did not find" is open to interpretation juxtaposed with the reality of evidence vs. chargeable evidence. They do not bring cases they don't think they can win, that is not a substitute for not having evidence nor is it an indication that there was none.

You haven 't even seen a complete sentence from the SCO report...that's a joke that this Barr letter is being flaunted as if it's anything more than a politically motivated white house document.

I'll wait for the actual report before taking Barr's cherry picking as gospel. You wouldn't accept it if it was the other way around and this was Eric Holder producing this sort of nonsense with respect to something Obama had done.
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I would accept it from either side. I'm not republican or democrat so none of that stuff matters to me. He stated they didn't find that anyone in the Trump team colluded and even stated that on the OOJ subject they found evidence for it and against it. Not sure why he wouldn't do the same for the collusion angle. Either way apparently the report is being redacted as we speak and then it will be given to congress.
 
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