Summery in March (SCO v 31)

[WTF2008]

Still waiting to see the report. Care to guess why it isn't out yet? Or why they refuse to show it to congress?

My guess is because you can't release an unredacted report that includes grand jury indictments.

 

[WTF2008]

Schiff is a member of the gang of eight. Can you credibly assert he hasn't seen evidence to support his claims of collusion without being privy to any of the information yourself?

Mueller made it clear he was not exonerating Trump precisely because he wasn't making a decision on whether to prosecute. It will be Congress' job to decide whether the evidence merits impeachment.

He had nothing to do with the report.
You're still reaching and it's sad.

Do you actually want Russian collusion?

 

[7437]

Are you really this stupid?


Ever hear of protecting sources and methods?


If you think Barr would misrepresent the findings of Meullers report, after consulting with Rosenstien and the OOLC, you’re a confirmed brainlet.

protect the methods from..... congress. Yeah, plausible. if you are fucking retarded.

 

[7437]

My guess is because you can't release an unredacted report that includes grand jury indictments.

to congress? Pretty sure thats wrong.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

He had nothing to do with the report.
You're still reaching and it's sad.

Do you actually want Russian collusion?

I want the evidence. I have said all along it's quite possible there was no collusion. The Trump team could have been set up by the Russians or they might have kompromat that they're using against him. I don't want there to be collusion or abuse of power but minus the pertinent redactions it's Congress' job to determine if the evidence warrants impeachment.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

to congress? Pretty sure thats wrong.

I think that's why they have the gang of eight. They could probably see the unredacted report but would be barred from revealing anything that should be redacted.

 

[andnowweknow]

I think that's why they have the gang of eight. They could probably see the unredacted report but would be barred from revealing anything that should be redacted.

Congress sees classified shit daily. Not showing Congress, in this case, is just because Barr knows (correctly) that it will be used as a reason to politically go after Trump or his family. If Congress takes it to court, they will win...Barr denying, being taken to court, and losing combined with bad info coming out in the report release will look really bad for the administration. Conversely , if there is nothing bad in the report (unlikely) Barr should fight it's release all the way and it would look awful for the dems.

 

[glenwo2]

You leave my parties out of this!!!

In all honesty, those parties must be a lot of fun with a lot of booze.

 

[glenwo2]

@GSP_37

What is a "Russian ass-hat"?

Yeah...I mean...I guess in some respects, Trump can be an ass-hat.

But he's not Russian nor can he speak a word of it.

So he can't be a "Russian" ass-hat.

 

[glenwo2]

"We're not asking for the Mueller Report like a child asks parents for ice cream. We're asking because we're entitled to it."

Sounds like a little kid saying "I want it, Mommy! I WANT IT! WANT IT! WANT IT!! IT'S MINE!!"

"entitled", my ass.

They'll get the damn report by April 15(no later) or earlier...but doubtful it will be ready by April 2nd.

 

[glenwo2]

So the President IS in control of the Mueller Report?

He was in control of the Mueller investigation?

 

[glenwo2]

Still waiting to see the report. Care to guess why it isn't out yet? Or why they refuse to show it to congress?

Maybe because.........COLLUSION!!!! OH MY GOD!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

 

[Ophydian]

Obstruction of justice is a crime, period.

It doesn't matter if "the crime never existed". It's not like conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government was the only thing the investigation turned up.

Did you miss Trump's cronies getting put behind bars? It wasn't the only crime. So while he may not have obstructed that one specific charge, he certainly obstructed all the others.

This is a really stupid argument and you guys should back off from it.

It’s funny, that’s like saying you can’t purjured yourself when no one was found guilty of the underlying crime. Like all those guys lying about their contacts with Russia because there wasn’t something shady going on.

 

[glenwo2]

Schiff is a member of the gang of eight. Can you credibly assert he hasn't seen evidence to support his claims of collusion without being privy to any of the information yourself?

Mueller made it clear he was not exonerating Trump precisely because he wasn't making a decision on whether to prosecute. It will be Congress' job to decide whether the evidence merits impeachment.

Right back at ya :

Can *YOU* credibly assert he HAS SEEN evidence to support his ridiculous claims of collusion without being privy to any of the information yourself?


You had stated this in earlier posts : None of us (that includes you) have seen the report.

 

[glenwo2]

I think that's why they have the gang of eight. They could probably see the unredacted report but would be barred from revealing anything that should be redacted.

PFFFT! And then "accidentally" one of their "aides" uploads the entire Mueller report onto the internet(unredacted and all).....

Yeah....I don't think so.


Anyway, no later than April 15 is when *EVERYBODY* will get the REDACTED report.

Nadler and his cronies can whine and cry all they want about their stupid deadline.

 

[glenwo2]

Congress sees classified shit daily. Not showing Congress, in this case, is just because Barr knows (correctly) that it will be used as a reason to politically go after Trump or his family. If Congress takes it to court, they will win...Barr denying, being taken to court, and losing combined with bad info coming out in the report release will look really bad for the administration. Conversely , if there is nothing bad in the report (unlikely) Barr should fight it's release all the way and it would look awful for the dems.

You really think if this is taken to the SCOTUS, they will win?

Would LOVE to find out and witness the rage by many here if (or is it *when*?) they vote against Congress.

 

[CrazyN8]

The collusion thing is objectively different, though. A more analogous situation would be the Clinton emails, though that didn't involve ethical considerations. After the investigation concluded with no evidence of a crime, were you insisting that the matter was settled and that no one should criticize Clinton for it? I don't recall seeing those posts from you. And note that while multiple Benghazi investigations produced no evidence of any wrongdoing, many people have gone down for issues related to this. Your "argument" is just that you don't want people to know anything bad because the president is in your party, and that's the beginning and end of your reasoning.



I can't convince you that everyone who isn't a Republican isn't an evil monster, but the fact that you look at things that way says more about the kind of person you are, and how limited your perspective is, than it says about any of the targets of your broad attacks.

After the Clintin email investigation concluded I realized that nothing was going to come of it yes. It was over. I did post recently in a thread about reopening the Clinton emails issue that both this and the the Clinton email scandal are over and done now lets all move on. Feel free to look it up. Stop assuming my argument. It goes no further than this is over. Will stuff in the report maybe not look great for Trump? Sure. Will it get him in trouble in anyway besides talking point for the media? No. That's what I am saying, do you disagree?

Also I never said everyone who isnt a republican is an evil monster, theyre some great reasonable Democrats. Im not attacking them, just you for being a complete partisan hackjob mascarading as level headed. Nothing in any of my posts shows me being a hardcore right winger, almost all of your posts show you being a hardcore leftist.

 

[Ophydian]

PFFFT! And then "accidentally" one of their "aides" uploads the entire Mueller report onto the internet(unredacted and all).....

Bad arguement is bad. The DoJ aides could do the same. Making that excuse your arguement for not releasing sensitive or classified material to the group that sees sensitive or classified material on a daily basis will lose.

 

[Strychnine]

The ACA is literally an affront to the constitution.

Everything the Dems have done in the last 12 years is embarassing to anyone that actually likes this Country.

 

[glenwo2]

Bad arguement is bad. The DoJ aides could do the same. Making that excuse your arguement for not releasing sensitive or classified material to the group that sees sensitive or classified material on a daily basis will lose.

I would agree with you except we had that whole Diane Feinstein "Dr. Ford Letter" fiasco during the Kavanaugh debacle which shows how easily it would be to reveal something by using one of your aides to do your dirty work for you

In other words, I don't trust the Dems NOT to leak the entire report if it's unredacted.

Hell....they could do it and then Blame the Republicans for it.
They blame them for everything else, after all.


Nope. They will WAIT until April 15 or a bit sooner, to receive the Report.....but NOT on April 2nd.

And the report WILL BE Redacted.

*That* will not change.