Stronger Division? Welterweight or Lightweight debate.

Sickplicity said:
Welterweight has so many beasts in the UFC

GSP, Condit, Diaz, Hendricks, Kampmann, Koscheck, Fitch, Maia, E. Silva, Rory, Bj, Juggernaut, Siyar, Gunnar,

Lightweight is good in the UFC, but the only ones who stick out to me.

Ben Henderson, Nate Diaz, Anthony Pettis, Donald Cerrone & Gilbert Melendez (SF soon to be UFC)

Edgar dropped a weightclass, Maynard is alright, Guida dropped a weightclass, Jim Miller & Joe Lauzon are good, but inconsistent.

Outside of that, many of it's contenders have fallen.

So I'm gonna go w/ Welterweight.
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Nice. Someone came with some logic. I endorse this post.
 
Fucking pointless discussion. It's all subjective.

LW is more exciting though.
 
Benson
Diaz
Pettis
Maynard
Lauzon
Guida
Chandler
Cerrone
Miller
Guida
Thomson
Dunham
Grant
Melendez
Alveraz
Aoki
Varner

Thus LW is stronger.


Seriously though, people are using a list of top fighters to support their argument? It's stupid even for Sherdog standard.
 
Both are great, but i'm gonna go with WW. Aldo moving up might shift the balance though, cause i consider him to be the most skilled figher in the sport.
 
I'd have to go with LW. That division is a shark tank. WW has a really strong top 10 and those guys are beast but LW has a really strong top 20.
 
Common sense would tell me LW cause more guys tend to be around that weight.

But looking at the actual names in the UFC roster I would say WW has the more talent.

so I guess I have to go with WW
 
I think WW is deeper on hype because they have rotated title shots more but not necessarily better. Some of those names (Kos, Condit, Hardy, Alves) all have more weight to their names because they were in title fights. Meanwhile LW has had lots of rematches so less people in title fights. Also, contenders move from the division. BJ, Edgar, Florian, Sanchez all left after they lost, where WW "losers" stick around.

So based on names, WW is certainly looks better but I think LW generally runs just as deep.
 
LW, easily

Benson
Diaz
Melendez
Maynard
Pettis
Cerrone
Miller
Lauzon
Guillard
Varner
RDA
Tavares
Wiman
Grant
Dunham
Barboza
Gomi
Sanchez
Sherk
Sass
Nurmagomedov
Tibau
G-sot
Michael Johnson

Plus guys like Alvarez, Chandler, Aoki, Hawn, Healy, and Guida/Edgar moving to 145...the division was and is stacked as hell.
 
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I remember when the strongest division in MMA wasn't even a debate and everyone knew it was LHW, then this kid comes along, takes the belt and nearly cleans out the division and now the LHW division isn't even mentioned in the conversation for the strongest division in MMA. What happened? The LHW division didn't change much, it still has many of the same names that gave it the title of the best division in MMA. Why did MMA fans all of a sudden go from saying the LHW division is thee stacked division to saying it is now LW and or WW? Jon Jones happened. It just goes to show you that a dominant champion makes their division look weak because the gap between champion and contenders is the real measure fans use to decide if a division is stacked or not. If the belt looks like it will be passed around or people actually believe there are contenders who can possibly dethrone the champion, they say it's a strong division. If there is a dominant champion but nobody believes there is a contender who can possibly dethrone that champion, they say the division is weak instead of saying the champion is strong.
 
Takamine86 said:
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I remember when the strongest division in MMA wasn't even a debate and everyone knew it was LHW, then this kid comes along, takes the belt and nearly cleans out the division and now the LHW division isn't even mentioned in the conversation for the strongest division in MMA. What happened? The LHW division didn't change much, it still has many of the same names that gave it the title of the best division in MMA. Why did MMA fans all of a sudden go from saying the LHW division is thee stacked division to saying it is now LW and or WW? Jon Jones happened. It just goes to show you that a dominant champion makes their division look weak because the gap between champion and contenders is the real measure fans use to decide if a division is stacked or not. If the belt looks like it will be passed around or people actually believe there are contenders who can possibly dethrone the champion, they say it's a strong division. If there is a dominant champion but nobody believes there is a contender who can possibly dethrone that champion, they say the division is weak instead of saying the champion is strong.
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Yeah I think that has a lot to do with the pride names coming over and having Chuck Liddel and Tito as well. LHW has been a big name glory division for a very long time.

some of the names are getting old, and you're right I think Jones did make the division look less due to his dominance and there has been a big rise in other divisions in terms of star power and standouts.

LHW is still really good, but it is facing increasingly stiff competition from other divisions
 
gdigger said:
Pretty much everyone says LHW is the strongest division in MMA. Not sure what youre talking about.

Jones
Hendo
Rashad
Lyoto
Shogun
Rampage
GUs
Davis
Bader

Nothing comes close really.
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Do they? All i ever hear is LW and or WW nowadays. I'll make a thread, I'm curious to see what the general consensus is on which division is the strongest in MMA today.
 
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