Television Stranger Things 4 (New Trailer)

[Mr.Maelstrom]

 

[StewDogg11]

Even if they do well most Netflix shows get canceled after a season or two. It’s their business model. No one just expected this show of all things to catch lightning in a bottle and become as big as it did. It’s clear the Duffer Bros knew the assignment and were just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks as time went on.

 

[Limbo Pete]

It’s a tough one. I had no real issue with this and I think of it often as Sopranos and GoT sort of muddying the waters where now any series where death happens with any degree of regularity has to deliver shock or surprise deaths of significant characters. There’s really nothing that says things have to play out that way.

But I could see why it can be a source of criticism because the Duffers did sort of want to have it both ways. The Goonies had the threat of violence but nobody watched that movie thinking Astin and co. were in mortal peril (as opposed to Astin in Stranger Things…). ET had some nefarious types who wanted to dissect his cadaver and who were menacing overall but I wasn’t worried that Elliot and Gertie and Michael were going to have something terrible befall them.

So you could say that if those sorts of adventure or coming of age stories are the main Duffer influence, then it makes sense they would keep their main characters plot armored. Except it’s notably different because they went more into a horror paradigm where vicious stuff DID happen to quite a few ancillary or single-season characters. Which creates that odd dynamic where you know those sort of shocking things can happen but they won’t happen to any of the leads.

That didn’t hurt my investment in the resolution but I could see how it could be a point of contention.

Yeah they've been pretty clear that the point of the show was character growth for the main cast, and killing them off throws that in the dumpster. Personally, I was extremely relieved that they didn't smite anybody at the end. It's the easiest thing to just blow up a character to move a story, and I think that's become way too common of a practice. Refreshing imo that they went the other way with it.

 

[HOLA]

Have you guys heard the "ConformityGate" conspiracy theory? It's basically that the ending was a mass illusion orchestrated by Vecna and the real finale will be surprise released on Jan 7th.

This is how you know the ending of the show was complete shit haha. The fans are literally going through the stages of grief, starting with denial.

 

[HOLA]

One of the major issues was the Duffer's unwillingness to kill off members of the main cast. By the end, their Plot Armour made an Iron Man suit look like tinfoil. I'm not saying they should have turned the last season into the Red Wedding, but when you pretty much know that no one important is going to die, there's very little to get you invested.

In spite of the Duffer's trying to hedge their bets, it's bloody obvious that El survived and moved to the Land of the Ice and Snow.

The constant fake out deaths made the plot armor even more obnoxious. It's like cut the shit, I know nothing is going to happen to them.

You've got the demogorgons mowing down elite military units like a hot knife through soft butter, but then it aura farms when it sees one of the main cast and just mostly shrieks at them.