Story of Jesus Christ was 'fabricated to pacify the poor', claims Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill

meauneau said:
Everyone in this thread who has interacted with you has asked you simple questions which you have refused to answer and you have accused everyone of misrepresenting your position. Somehow this is everyone's fault but yours. All of your posts have been vague and unclear hence why people are asking you to state your position. The principle of charity requires one to represent arguments in their strongest and most accurate form. If you refuse to hep them in this then you cannot blame them if they misrepresent you; you refuse to be a good person..
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If you are here it is because you want to discuss with others yet you refuse to engage with them in a virtuous and civil manner and uphold the principle of charity. A decent and charitable person wouldn't mind restating his position clearly when invited to do so especially when there are hundreds of posts.

Uh..... yes.... When I pretty clearly state my position, and you misrepresent it (see your response to painislife's comment that you're still lying about/ignoring) or just wholly misunderstand it and project your own nonsense into it the way you have for this entire thread, that's what is going to happen. I'm not going to constantly type out my opinion over and over in plain type while you add in stuff that isn't there for your own benefit.


I am not projecting views, I am just stating what is obvious to everyone. You refuse to state your position in an unambiguous way, you ref
use to answer questions directly and you accuse everyone of projecting and misrepresenting your position. You are clearly insecure
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First of all, LOL at the irony of this post. You're clearly so massively insecure that you need to comeback in here constantly and demand my attention. Yet you just projected that insecurity onto me, while claiming you aren't insecure. Priceless.

BTW, I've asked a number of times. What are my views? Because you clearly can't understand what I've said the entire time this thread has gone on because you're too busy doing exactly what I've stated above. This is getting really, really tedious
 
lfd0311 said:
Uh..... yes.... When I pretty clearly state my position, and you misrepresent it (see your response to painislife's comment that you're still lying about/ignoring) or just wholly misunderstand it and project your own nonsense into it the way you have for this entire thread, that's what is going to happen. I'm not going to constantly type out my opinion over and over in plain type while you add in stuff that isn't there for your own benefit.

First of all, LOL at the irony of this post. You're clearly so massively insecure that you need to comeback in here constantly and demand my attention. Yet you just projected that insecurity onto me, while claiming you aren't insecure. Priceless.

BTW, I've asked a number of times. What are my views? Because you clearly can't understand what I've said the entire time this thread has gone on because you're too busy doing exactly what I've stated above. This is getting really, really tedious
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I don't know what your views are. All I know from the only post of yours that states something in clear language is that eternal nonexistence terrifies you and that you are an agnostic (an agnostic who doesn't know the difference between strong and week agnosticism).

You clearly don't want to have a discussion because you still refuse to state what your views are.
 
meauneau said:
I don't know what your views are. All I know from the only post of yours that states something in clear language is that eternal nonexistence terrifies you and that you are an agnostic (an agnostic who doesn't know the difference between strong and week agnosticism).

You clearly don't want to have a discussion because you still refuse to state what your views are.
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I've stated them pretty clearly. You are again projecting a ton of stuff into what I said. I literally said "Beyond that I really don't care", and you're in here going BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STRONG AND WEAK!!!! ARRGHGHGHGHGHGH!!! Because I don't care. These terms and definitions, along with the beliefs associated with them are WAAAAAYYYY more important to you than they are to me. So you're (is it coming together for you yet?) PROJECTING those views onto me to argue against an argument I'm not making. What's that called again?
 
lfd0311 said:
I've stated them pretty clearly. You are again projecting a ton of stuff into what I said. I literally said "Beyond that I really don't care", and you're in here going BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STRONG AND WEAK!!!! ARRGHGHGHGHGHGH!!! Because I don't care. These terms and definitions, along with the beliefs associated with them are WAAAAAYYYY more important to you than they are to me. So you're (is it coming together for you yet?) PROJECTING those views onto me to argue against an argument I'm not making. What's that called again?
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I don't think you know what projecting means. Just like you didn't know what agnosticism entails.

All your replies are either accusations of misrepresentations or projection or that we should read your posts. No one takes you seriously. If people interact with you it is because you are a strange person.
 
meauneau said:
I don't think you know what projecting means. Just like you didn't know what agnosticism entails.

All your replies are either accusations of misrepresentations or projection or that we should read your posts. No one takes you seriously. If people interact with you it is because you are a strange person.
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LOL. I know exactly what they mean. Just like I know what "irony" means, and it's pretty heavy in this post.
 
lfd0311 said:
Oh wow, a meme... You still mad you got crushed a long time ago so you duck in from time to time to make yourself feel better?
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Mate, you haven't crushed anyone. You said that we have first hand accounts from historians writing within decades of Christ's death. About 42 different posters have asked you for proof, and you've given none. Rather than just do that, you've stuck to insulting everyone insisting that we just don't get it.

We can do you a favor and let this thread die though, since the only thing you're interested in is saving face at this point.
 
I see that stupid sod the pope has been poncing about in Ireland. God he and the other clergy look ridiculous in their costumes, like something from the dark ages.
How can people respect him and his kind, everytime i see him i instantly get angry, what a con artist.
Only the unintelligent can believe in superbeings.
 
So basically, Christianity is FAKE NEWS.

Joseph's middle name should be "FIRE".
 
Darkballs said:
Mate, you haven't crushed anyone. You said that we have first hand accounts from historians writing within decades of Christ's death. About 42 different posters have asked you for proof, and you've given none. Rather than just do that, you've stuck to insulting everyone insisting that we just don't get it.

We can do you a favor and let this thread die though, since the only thing you're interested in is saving face at this point.
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First of all, thank you for bringing back this days old thread. Secondly, Thank you for proving that you can't read, since I was actually agreeing with you and you're too stupid to understand that. Thirdly, just since you've been being a dick, and an ignorant one at that, I'll flip my argument just because. When was the New Testament complied? Roughly 60 years after Jesus' death. That's decades after his death, moron. You lose, I win as expected. Good God you dudes are stupid.
 
Ever play the game telephone? Whisper in someones ear and so on until you get to the end? What you get is an adultered version of the original. You dont think that isnt gonna happen with biblical stories?
 
so I was like 20 pages back reading through this and Im just looking for spoilers..... did lfd0311 ever provide any evidence to his claims?
 
MayhemMonkey said:
so I was like 20 pages back reading through this and Im just looking for spoilers..... did lfd0311 ever provide any evidence to his claims?
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His evidence is "the new testament started compiling stuff 60 years after Jesus' death" but he did not provide any evidence for that claim. Instead he is presenting it as an indesputable fact .
 
Damien Karras said:
His evidence is "the new testament started compiling stuff 60 years after Jesus' death" but he did not provide any evidence for that claim. Instead he is presenting it as an indesputable fact .
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thought as much, thanks man
 
lfd0311 said:
First of all, thank you for bringing back this days old thread. Secondly, Thank you for proving that you can't read, since I was actually agreeing with you and you're too stupid to understand that. Thirdly, just since you've been being a dick, and an ignorant one at that, I'll flip my argument just because. When was the New Testament complied? Roughly 60 years after Jesus' death. That's decades after his death, moron. You lose, I win as expected. Good God you dudes are stupid.
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Do you know this or are you agnostic about this too?

Please respond.
 
MayhemMonkey said:
so I was like 20 pages back reading through this and Im just looking for spoilers..... did lfd0311 ever provide any evidence to his claims?
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He told me that the answer lies in Jesus' name.

Seriously.
 
MayhemMonkey said:
thought as much, thanks man
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And then he went off on how we're so painstakingly stupid. He's just an idiot with confidence. I stay away from these people and let them congregate amongst themsves.
 
Fawlty said:
He told me that the answer lies in Jesus' name.

Seriously.
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yeah I was seeing you pester him for evidence and he just kept calling you and multiple others stupid and telling you to read "slowerrrrrrrr" whatever the fuck that means? lol

He's a twat
 
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