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Stipe wouldn't even survive during Fedor's era

ppl tend to romanticize the past. That’s likely what this is. Who knows who would win between these 2, but Stipe deserves credit for his accomplishments.
 
I WILL CUT YOU said:
I would like to see a 24 year old Stipe starting mma.


It sucks he is old, and his competition is ancient. DC is a good win but the dude is too fat, old, and broken down to wrestle for more than a shot or two.
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Just think of DC and Stipe were in MMA earlier. Stipe would probably the champ for 7 years already the what would the detractors say?
 
spardeous said:
Biggest accomplishment of his career, but not the biggest fight by a country mile. He was the favorite going into the Wanderlei fight.

He'd already been fighting for over 10 years when he came into the UFC. You just refuse to look at it objectively.
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You can't go into a circumstance with massive expectations placed on you, fail to live up to them, and then be told

"It doesn't matter"

That's NOT how sports works when evaluating a legacy.. You have to perform to expectations..
 
mjfan23 said:
Brendan Schaub felt the same way when facing dead old Nog
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I could definitely see a prime Nog outboxing Stipe, maybe not KOing him(although not impossible If Stipe gets sloppy) but outlanding him plus of course avoiding elite grappling is different to shutting down a controlling wrestler.
 
Stagliano said:
So why are noobs acting like if he was the GOAT HW ? For sake he'd lost to big Nog or Mirko 10/10.

The result is pretty fresh so I understand the fervor but please let's not forget what the real GOAT has accomplished.

Fedor would have never go life and death with 5'8 Cormier and he would have zulu'd Franck in one round without having to hold for his life during 25 minutes.

Edit : some peoples are accusing me of trolling. My title thread may be exagerated so I'll bring some shade. Stipe could be a solid top 10 fighter but honestly I can't see him doing better. The ring wouldn't be good for him. For exemple he couldn't apply his gameplan for Ngannou with the Pride rules.
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My guy, respect that era for what it was without mythicizing it. Stipe would have ran the table on the Pride heavyweight roster. He's a superbly conditioned athlete with a well developed and well rounded skillset. Big Nog is gonna handle him but Werdum couldn't? Fedor is going to piece him up but Cormier couldn't? If you're not trolling you missed a damn good opportunity
 
spardeous said:
Big Nog and Crocop were both well past their prime when they came into the UFC.

Fedor's still winning big fights against dudes who have far less mileage than him. He's beaten almost every major fighter from his era.
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Wtf? Mirko was 32 and Nog was 31 when they came to UFC. That’s still very much their prime. They sucked. Deal with it. Like Fedor in Strikeforce
 
If Stipe got KTFO by struve in his prime or in the young days when his chin was undamaged....he can get KTFO by any PrideFC HW...ANY.


IMO Stipe would be a Sergei type of character in PRIDE.....He would be top 10 or top 5, but would had never been champ.
 
beroisimo** said:
Nog and Mirko came to the UFC, and got battered.

The fact that you are putting Zulu and Francis in the same sentence is beyond ignorant.

Send this to the wasteland.
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OMG! You are SO RIGHT!! I mean screw the fact that each was like 12-15 years already into their MMA AND MMA/KICKBOXING careers and had suffered vast amounts of injuries, damage fighting at a highest level for years.

That means nothing to badasses like YOU and even tho zombie Nog barely won the interim UFC title after getting beat down for 3+ rounds by a guy he would have submitted in the 1st round in his prime, he still sucked and could never handle a lighting rod like Stipe.

Fighters stay at their peak forever so I am glad you are here to lay down the facts bruh.

<{MingNope}><{MingNope}>

Jarod Cannonier > Anderson Silva All time buddeh!!!
 
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Summoning said:
Prime with 39 Pro MMA fights and +20 Kickboxing fights?

<BC1>
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Yep.

That's a fanboy barrative. He was ths most heavily hyped signing in UFC history.

He had one less fight's worth of mileage when he won the mythical GP.
 
Stagliano said:
So why are noobs acting like if he was the GOAT HW ? For sake he'd lost to big Nog or Mirko 10/10.

The result is pretty fresh so I understand the fervor but please let's not forget what the real GOAT has accomplished.

Fedor would have never go life and death with 5'8 Cormier and he would have zulu'd Franck in one round without having to hold for his life during 25 minutes.

Edit : some peoples are accusing me of trolling. My title thread may be exagerated so I'll bring some shade. Stipe could be a solid top 10 fighter but honestly I can't see him doing better. The ring wouldn't be good for him. For exemple he couldn't apply his gameplan for Ngannou with the Pride rules.
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Yet, Fedor in his early 30's was getting knocked out face down ass up by a middle weight that was 6 years older than him and had been fighting much longer.
 
moreorless87 said:
He'd have been a successful HW definitely as would, Cain, JDS and Cormier BUT I think they'd have been tested more thoughly in that era than they have been in this.

In the current era it just seems like fighters are facing less diverse offence and opponents with much clearer flaws in their game. You fought Fedor, Nog, Crocop, Sergei, Aleks, Barnett, etc back in the day and you didn't generally beat them via exploiting some clear opening, you had to go to war.
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I can definitely agree with this. Well said. Personally I feel Stipe would've been fighting for that 2-4 spot in that era. Great fighter for sure.
 
neomage2021 said:
Yet, Fedor in his early 30's was getting knocked out face down ass up by a middle weight that was 6 years older than him and had been fighting much longer.
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You forget that Fedor was fighting in combat sambo for a long time as well, and obviously getting hit by HWs your entire career has potential to cause far more wear and tear on your body/health.
 
Stagliano said:
Yeah cause of course Mirko was in his prime :)
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Either that or wasn't fighting Lap cans.

He'z beaten ONE really good HW.

That joke of a league ended 13 years ago and its HW stars all flopped in sanctioned fights.
 
The UFC HW division is a joke. Pride FC eats the entire division for lunch.
 
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