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Media Stipe Miocic Humbles Francis Ngannou

Herwald said:
Zoo yoo reed inglizh? I'm a Stipe fan, was rooting for Stipe in that fight.
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Ngannou in the 1st, or Stipe domination. I'm going with the latter. Worth a bet on both.
 
I feel like Ngannou is still the same f ighter. Stipe will have to avoid the big shots and just pressure Ngannou to win again. Easier said than done tho when you have a Ford Focus or Escort or whatever flying at you for 25 minutes
 
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RJK said:
I mean the truth is somewhere between.

Stipe had a tiger by the tail despite dominating him - Francis never stopped feeling dangerous at any point. Say what you want but Francis has come back mentally since the loss.
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watch the post fight interview after the black beast fight.. Francis admits that stipe broke him mentally.. lmao he has shown absolutely zero improvement in his grappling or tdd
 
firstroundpick said:
watch the post fight interview after the black beast fight.. Francis admits that stipe broke him mentally.. lmao he has shown absolutely zero improvement in his grappling or tdd
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Sure but like I said he's bounced back, so we know he can accept the need to improve and could be more resilient now.

He went into the Stipe fight unprepared for hard times and yet the danger of one punch was there from start to finish. I agree we can't really judge his "improved" grappling one way or another, but in fairness he did put away technically two of the best grapplers in the division with ease.

Stipe was the first IMO to approach Ngannou without fear and hesitancy and that could be why his grappling was more effective than "better" grapplers. A second fight will say a lot I reckon.
 
Herwald said:
Zoo yoo reed inglizh? I'm a Stipe fan, was rooting for Stipe in that fight.
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No offense, but you’re not getting your points across effectively or clearly. This thread is ton of Stipe fans but you’re somehow arguing with them/us.
 
Martialbeef said:
I think the very fact alone Stipe couldn’t finish Francis 1.0 should strike fear into the heart. Ngannou wins that rematch ALL day

Francis puts him out cold
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Lol, I would be very curious to hear you breakdown that led you to this conclusion.

So Stipe completely dominating Francis over 25 minutes to the point he was afraid to even engage in his next fight while eating several of Francis' bombs without even being wobbled suggests to you, that because he didn't finish him, Francis does what he failed to do in 25 minutes last time?

History shows that if Francis doesn't finish in RD 1 he's unlikely to finish at all and there is nothing to suggest that he's improved his grappling enough to stop Stipe from wearing him out Wrestling in RD 1 to take away his biggest threat on route to another lopsided victory.

Really Father Time is the only factor that suggests the rematch could be more competitive then the first.

Sure, Francis could certainly win with that game changing power of his but you reason for arriving at that conclusion makes absolutely no sense to me which is why I ask.

All these "Francis is the new Champ" and "Francis will KO him easy" narratives sound exactly the same as the majority of comments leading into the first fight Stipe had no chance in, lol.
 
boss429 said:
Lol, I would be very curious to hear you breakdown that led you to this conclusion.

So Stipe completely dominating Francis over 25 minutes to the point he was afraid to even engage in his next fight while eating several of Francis' bombs without even being wobbled suggests to you, that because he didn't finish him, Francis does what he failed to do in 25 minutes last time?

History shows that if Francis doesn't finish in RD 1 he's unlikely to finish at all and there is nothing to suggest that he's improved his grappling enough to stop Stipe from wearing him out Wrestling in RD 1 to take away his biggest threat on route to another lopsided victory.

Really Father Time is the only factor that suggests the rematch could be more competitive then the first.

Sure, Francis could certainly win with that game changing power of his but you reason for arriving at that conclusion makes absolutely no sense to me which is why I ask.

All these "Francis is the new Champ" and "Francis will KO him easy" narratives sound exactly the same as the majority of comments leading into the first fight Stipe had no chance in, lol.
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boss429 said:
Haha, cheers buddy, I told you long ago I've been a Stipe fan since he first came to the UFC, he's just not Fedor is all, lol.
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I know you’re a Stipe fan too but I had to acknowledge your post is all.
 
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