Still watching Spartacus on Netflix regularly...Appreciation/Wishful thinking thread

GearSolidMetal said:
Happyish? Like 6 characters die in the 3rd season's finale.

Anyway, I had a feeling they wouldn't be able to introduce and develop new villians for the 4th season within 10 episodes as well as Glaber and Batiatus, and I was right.

The series finale was bittersweet. They handled Spartacus's ending perfectly, 100% satisfying. As for the fates of the other characters (surviving and not), they left me with mixed feelings.
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yeah for sure a lot of deaths could have been done better
the only ones i liked were the death of gannicus and spartacus
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Happyish? Like 6 characters die in the 3rd season's finale.

Anyway, I had a feeling they wouldn't be able to introduce and develop new villians for the 4th season within 10 episodes as well as Glaber and Batiatus, and I was right.

The series finale was bittersweet. They handled Spartacus's ending perfectly, 100% satisfying. As for the fates of the other characters (surviving and not), they left me with mixed feelings.
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The guy completed his revenge. Id have ended with the GOtA, but with all the build up and delays i had to at least see the new Spartacus storyline.

This was a show about slaves, i just didn't want to see a tale of mistreated people end in their destruction.

I ended with the survivors free
 
Abysmal said:
Ashur was a very well written character too. He was so good at playing the villain he had most people cheering for him while the show was airing it seemed. I couldn't stand him though. He played the role so well he actually made me want to see his ass get what was coming to him. Didn't like how he went out though. Would have preferred something else, but I blame how I felt about that mainly on the fact I did not like the actor they cast to replace Naevia. That is one of the very few gripes I had about this show.
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I still remember my reaction when they introduced her new actress in season 3 at the 3nd of one of the episodes, right before Crixus gets captured. I was like...

'Crixus is clearly deranged. He's grabbing a random black girl and calling her Naevia. That's not Naevia. When is Spartacus going to get ahold of Crixus to tell him they all don't look alike?'
 
spin_ said:
The guy completed his revenge. Id have ended with the GOtA, but with all the build up and delays i had to at least see the new Spartacus storyline.

This was a show about slaves, i just didn't want to see a tale of mistreated people end in their destruction.

I ended with the survivors free
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Ah ok. I thought you meant you've seen the first three seasons, but not the fourth.
 
men this thread was a blast,we should get together and
put some spartacus episodes on one of those web viewer watch with friends things and watch it all together

"the spartacus sherdog fan club"
 
thegrapplingdum said:
yeah for sure a lot of deaths could have been done better
the only ones i liked were the death of gannicus and spartacus
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Spartacus yes, Gannicus no.

The thing is, I've researched crucifixion. It's the worst form of long-term execution in history. While they portray Gannicus as being in a bizarre happiness, thinking of the arena, I can assure you that's impossible to have any form of positive feelings while being curcified.

And even worse, earlier in the finale, it seems Crassus's slave and Crassus have made amends and he forgives her. Personally, I empathized with her character the most of all the characters in the final season. Then it's revealed that she's crusified right next to Gannicus. Wow... the only word I can say about that is 'distasteful.' And it seemed competely out of Crassus's character to do something that cruel to someone that once meant so much to him.

Believe it or not, as much as I love this show, my feeling about the above almost taints the entire series for me.

Oh, and on a side note, I never cared for Agron or Nasir. Revealing Agron to be gay in season 3 seemed very tagged-on. Their romance and drama was an annoyance to me that didn't serve any purpose in the overall plot. And of course, they're the one couple that walked into the sunset to a happy ending.

Jupiter's fucking ****.
 
misterchipmunk said:
I agree with the prequel being the best, it had perfect pacing, epic fight scenes, amazing sex scenes, great tie in to season 1, amazing charismatic characters/actors. I can't really think of many plot holes in the 6 episodes.

Season 1 started off slow but picked up during the 2nd half. Whitman's performance was excellent as a fighter and line delivery. Batiatus was the best villian in the series.

The replacement did a solid job. He started off poorly with horrible fight scenes but got a lot better during the next 2 seasons and grew in the role. He gets a lot of hate due to Whitman dying and the fans just started verbally attacking the replacement after Andy's death. The shoe's Whitman left were too hard to fill and I don't think anyone could have done Spartacus better than Whitman. But Whitman wanted the show to go on and even chose the replacement himself. Obviously, he wasn't as good as Whitman but he still did a decent job for unrealistic expectations. Season 2 was the worst since it took the replacement awhile to get into the role. Season 3 was great end to an underrated series.
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Agree with everything in this post.

TS, I also believe there won't be another "perfect series" for me like Spartacus. I would literally download the episodes like a crack addict at 2 am just so I could watch them as soon as they became available online. It was like 300 and Gladiator fused into a TV show. Those two movies are in my top 5-10 all time favorites so I knew Spartacus was going to be an epic show for me. Thanks TS now I'm gonna spend the next week and a half rewatching from episode 1!
 
I think a Caesar spinoff could be good. It could be a totally different atmosphere. We could get Gallic povs vercingetorix etc.
 
GroundGameFan said:
I see I'm not the only one who uses that as my comparison :icon_chee
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You guys are going to say I'm bullshitting, but I'm taking partial credit for coming up with that comparison.

The 300/Gladiator comparisons were made by others after the pilot, for obvious reasons, but around a quarter through the season I realized it was Shakespearian with it's unique language (100 BC Latin accurately translated into english) and it's brilliant drama.

Since then, in about every thread about recommending a series to get into, I've repeated that comparison because it's short, and about everyone knows Gladiator and 300, and even those that don't know Shakespeare at least respects his work.

Good to hear that the comparison is so spot-on that others started to use it as well.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
You guys are going to say I'm bullshitting, but I'm taking partial credit for coming up with that comparison.

The 300/Gladiator comparisons were made by others after the pilot, for obvious reasons, but around a quarter through the season I realized it was Shakespearian with it's unique language (100 BC Latin accurately translated into english) and it's brilliant drama.

Since then, in about every thread about recommending a series to get into, I've repeated that comparison because it's short, and about everyone knows Gladiator and 300, and even those that don't know Shakespeare at least respects his work.

Good to hear that the comparison is so spot-on that others started to use it as well.
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Well to be fair, I only mention the movies, not the Shakespeare part that you mentioned. Never really gave much thought to that, and I can't say I recall that being mentioned all that much in the threads when the show was still airing. I do remember you from the thread though. When thinking about the way the dialogue is in Spartacus, it's just too unique and cool for me to even try to describe. I just mention the violence, imagery, over the top gore, and overall dark feeling as to why I recommend it to someone and let them take it from there. Great fucking show
 
Organic Damage said:
Better than it had any right to be. Too bad Whitfield died, the guy they replaced him with was all right but could never really fill his shoes.

IMO the 4 (3? + miniseries) seasons of this show they made was the perfect amount, with the perfect ending. But I would watch the fuck out of another prequel series.
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I absolutely loved the first season, and even Gods of the Arena for the most part, but once Andy passed I just couldn't get back into it. I watched some random episodes of seasons 3 and 4, but never really followed it.

I've heard great things about how it went on, and how it ended, so I'll probably give it another go sometime, and just binge-watch the entire series over the course of a weekend.
 
GroundGameFan said:
Well to be fair, I only mention the movies, not the Shakespeare part that you mentioned. Never really gave much thought to that, and I can't say I recall that being mentioned all that much in the threads when the show was still airing. I do remember you from the thread though. When thinking about the way the dialogue is in Spartacus, it's just too unique and cool for me to even try to describe. I just mention the violence, imagery, over the top gore, and overall dark feeling as to why I recommend it to someone and let them take it from there. Great fucking show
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The visual style is interesting, but it's not enough to carry a TV show. Same with the added sex and nudity.

That's why practically everyone on the forums that saw the pilot episode was thinking they'll watch a few more episodes, the quit.

That's why I add the Shakespeare aspect to the comparison. Shakespear is synonymous with amazing drama.
 
One of my favourite shows.

As was the experience of many others who've posted here, once the story got going midway through season 1 I was hooked. The last two seasons were not as good as the first two, but I'd say it was mostly down to the fact they'd left the setting of the ludus, which lended itself to drama. Though, like most, I preferred Andy to Liam as Spartacus, I don't think the change affected the show's overall quality all that much.

The casting overall was superb and brought the best out of most characters, with a few notable exceptions(hey there Naevia #2). Ashur was probably my favourite character while he was around and I have to agree with those saying he should've been kept for the final season; killing him when they did really didn't accomplish anything story-wise and he was probably the most interesting villain on the show aside from Batiatus.

Also, the show had some great soundtrack moments:
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Spartacus yes, Gannicus no.

The thing is, I've researched crucifixion. It's the worst form of long-term execution in history. While they portray Gannicus as being in a bizarre happiness, thinking of the arena, I can assure you that's impossible to have any form of positive feelings while being curcified.

And even worse, earlier in the finale, it seems Crassus's slave and Crassus have made amends and he forgives her. Personally, I empathized with her character the most of all the characters in the final season. Then it's revealed that she's crusified right next to Gannicus. Wow... the only word I can say about that is 'distasteful.' And it seemed competely out of Crassus's character to do something that cruel to someone that once meant so much to him.

Believe it or not, as much as I love this show, my feeling about the above almost taints the entire series for me.

Oh, and on a side note, I never cared for Agron or Nasir. Revealing Agron to be gay in season 3 seemed very tagged-on. Their romance and drama was an annoyance to me that didn't serve any purpose in the overall plot. And of course, they're the one couple that walked into the sunset to a happy ending.

Jupiter's fucking ****.
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yeah but it was obvious it was something very recently done or else he wouldnt be laughing,if he had been there for days or any serious ammount of time i would see your point but it was obvious that he had been there in the most for few hours(if that)and the whole point of that scene was to show the mental endurance of the gladiators,to be able to laugh at death as if it was nothing(again it was very obvious he hadnt been there for long,in such a state of torture)

and besides crassus NEEDED to do what he did,look at the position he was in
he couldnt just let such things go away regardless of the feelings he had for the slave women,it is not distasteful it shows how things actually used to work back then(not that i am saying spartacus is in any sort of way a realistic series)

when it came to agron and nasir it was kind of "eh" to be honest
it didnt get in the way of the actual main story so i didnt see it as a problem
and we had seen the same in season 1 with barca
 
I have one major question from season 4. Decimation. If Tiberus had picked the white stone would Crassus have allowed him to be Decimated?
 
THE WARMASTER said:
I absolutely loved the first season, and even Gods of the Arena for the most part, but once Andy passed I just couldn't get back into it. I watched some random episodes of seasons 3 and 4, but never really followed it.

I've heard great things about how it went on, and how it ended, so I'll probably give it another go sometime, and just binge-watch the entire series over the course of a weekend.
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yeah do it,the first couple of episodes of season 2 arent that good(or season three if you will) arent really that good but things pick up again later on
the whole part with the pirates is really good,and season 3 is fucking solid

VuvuzelaBzz said:
One of my favourite shows.

As was the experience of many others who've posted here, once the story got going midway through season 1 I was hooked. The last two seasons were not as good as the first two, but I'd say it was mostly down to the fact they'd left the setting of the ludus, which lended itself to drama. Though, like most, I preferred Andy to Liam as Spartacus, I don't think the change affected the show's overall quality all that much.

The casting overall was superb and brought the best out of most characters, with a few notable exceptions(hey there Naevia #2). Ashur was probably my favourite character while he was around and I have to agree with those saying he should've been kept for the final season; killing him when they did really didn't accomplish anything story-wise and he was probably the most interesting villain on the show aside from Batiatus.
Also, the show had some great soundtrack moments:
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yes exactly the only reason they killed him was because they were trying to do two things a)close all ties with the ludus and b) for the viewer to get some sort of sense of justice

but it was very poorly done and they tried to hard to make it "poetic" and i also didnt like how they tried to connect him with naevia the way they did since her real source of suffering started with what happened after the ludus(think what happened with the farmer and when she sort of turned into a worthless slave) they tried to hard to pin on it and killing him was just for people to get the usual "he got what was coming to him in the end" but it was rushed and after everything ashur got away with he gets caught like that? no i dont think so

they should have made him dissapear for a while and then perhaps made him return in season 3
 
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