Locked STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER v.2

[One MMA Fan]

Audience reviews are in the 40s bro. Lowest rated Star Wars film to date. Using the retarded critics who give positive reviews for diversity isn’t helping your case at all.

Sorry I just don't pick 1 metric.. I look at more of them and I sure as hell don't pick one that has proven to be heavily controversial again and again we just seen it with the Marvel movie.

 

[Clear Winner]

Your welcome... I'm glad you've enjoyed my commentary. Please feel free to talk about me without tagging me in the future so that I'll know nothing about it.

this post is for you too https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/150613567/

I actually tried, but couldn't get the name right in the tag. Not like I was dissing you, bro.

 

[90 50]

Audience reviews are in the 40s bro. Lowest rated Star Wars film to date. Using the retarded critics who give positive reviews for diversity isn’t helping your case at all.

Or ticket sales numbers, everyone saw it on day one, the news got out and people noped the fuck out of watching it.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Audience reviews are in the 40s bro. Lowest rated Star Wars film to date. Using the retarded critics who give positive reviews for diversity isn’t helping your case at all.

Geez, you're still quoting the proven corrupt tomatoes numberz? I know you've seen the real facts the many times that I've posted them.

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Sherdog voting poll - http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...k-hamill-disappointed-with-cut-scene.3676193/

519 people voted
356 (68.59%) voted from 5 – 10 which is neutral to loved it.
163 (31.41%) voted 4 or below. 5 is neutral… so 163 people voted that they didn’t like it.
65 (12.5%) were neutral but even if you take them out you still get 55% that liked it to loved it


It's been sitting around a 7 on IMDB ever since the film's release. It also has an A on CinemaScore, which is derived from polling audiences leaving the theater.

It's a myth that only the critics liked TLJ or rated it highly.

- The Last Jedi is the best selling BlueRay of 2018 (info as of Jan 2019) Selling a million more copies than Avengers Infinity Wars.

https://qz.com/1160551/the-rotten-tomatoes-score-for-the-last-jedi-may-be-rigged/ - Rigging Rotton Tomatos against TLJ.

· My post regarding Rotton tomatoe’s questionable score - http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/143134745/

· Rotton Tomatoes’s 2010 Ep. 3 controversy. 5 years after the movie, millions of votes changed it from 85% to 65% - https://screenrant.com/star-wars-revenge-sith-rotten-tomatoes-score-broken/



– Chuck Wendig tells how he was at the midnight release of The first Aftermath book & there were all ready a bunch of 1 ratings when the event was over… way too soon for people to even read the book.

Sorry I just don't pick 1 metric.. I look at more of them and I sure as hell don't pick one that has proven to be heavily controversial again and again we just seen it with the Marvel movie.

You mean to say that Rotton Tomatoez haz been compromised? What about the fact that they put out an official statement saying they looked into it & didn't find anything wrong? I mean it was an official statement & everything.

 

[Morning Star]

Or ticket sales numbers, everyone saw it on day one, the news got out and people noped the fuck out of watching it.

^This. TLJ had weak legs and although it made a lot of money it clearly underperformed what was expected. Not to mention the cascade effect it had on Solo which was the 1st Star Wars movie to lose money (even saying that sounds weird). The brand is just not where it was before. The new movies have no direction, the games are sparse and frankly just not very good or that popular, and the toys aren't selling like they used to.

Anectodical I know, but I've yet to meet a person IRL that liked TLJ. Online from my experience it's mostly Reylos that are excited about it from what I've seen. On casual subs or mainstream articles it's usually hate or indifference. I wouldn't be shocked if it didn't crack a Billion, especially with it's lack of popularity in China.

 

[method115]

I'm interested in seeing how bad this movie does. I have absolutely no intentions of seeing it. Even if everyone on here loves it. I've decided I'll wait until the bluray

 

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[One MMA Fan]

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[Khabibs Tiramisu]

It's a valid point - there really is not point to the rest of the films

She is already way too good/powerful without any training - has bested Kylo, Luke, Elite Guards, resisted mind control (while kylo was able to deceive his master - go figure).

Unless they throw some sort of out there twist it is not really a film to look forward to.

you mean you're not looking forward to see how rose tico and finn's love story progresses?

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

you mean you're not looking forward to see how rose tico and finn's love story progresses?

maybe if that gal looked like michelle waterson

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I've said "There's no way in hell I'm ever paying to see Ep9 in theaters." But I'd like to correct myself.

I'm going to wait a week until reliable reviews come in from Star Wars fans who hated Ep8. General movie reviews, Professional movie reviewers, or even 'Star Wars fan' reviews aren't to be trusted.

And I won't be watching any previews/trailers to fall for the hypetrain, or get my hopes up.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

nice....

STAR WARS

EPISODE IX

THE KNIGHTS OF REN​

Rey has revealed her true identity. She is a long time apprentice of the late Supreme Leader Snoke, and a secret member of the Knights of Ren.

Rey, who specializes in deception and espionage, invented a hollow backstory of being a scavenger from Jakku in order to infiltrate the Resistance. Well trained in the dark side of the force, she has an attraction to light side energy. This enabled her to sense the map to Skywalker inside BB8 and Luke's lightsaber in TFA. Her secret mission was to find Luke Skywalker and plant a bridge for her master, Snoke, to communicate with him.

Because Luke senses something dark in Rey, he rejects her and gives her bogus lessons instead of actual training. In the midst of this, Rey succeeds in planting a communication bridge for Snoke to pose as Ghost Yoda and convince Luke to commit suicide by overexerting himself as a hologram. But now her master Snoke is dead, so Rey has returned to the Resistance posing as a Rey the scavenger from Jakku as she awaits the return of her comrades, the Knights of Ren...

https://starwarsintrocreator.kassellabs.io/#!/BLb1XoLmvAMo7_gVIV6v

I actually like this.

Too bad Disney doesn't have any balls.

One criticism - The first sentence implies Rey 'revealed herself' in-between Ep8 and Ep9, off screen.

That's be a 'Darth Revan Identity Revealed in KOTOR' level plot-twist, and it'd need to be in the finale.

 

[BisexualMMA]

Everyone ITT upset about C-3P0 strapped, but is there anything worse than inbred Jar Jar next to Finn? What the fuck is that thing? We barely get any aliens in this new trilogy and the best we get is this lump of shit and butthole eyes Maz.

Also the poster isn't terrible, but this feels like it's going to be so disjointed from the last movie. Still not paying for it.

Don't forget about day barbecued mini penguins.

 

[KnightTemplar]

you mean you're not looking forward to see how rose tico and finn's love story progresses?

 

[Clear Winner]

maybe if that gal looked like michelle waterson

Instead, she looks like Michelle Waterboard. Amirite?!

Yea I know the guy well : ) He clearly is a passionate fan of SW and TLJ that wants to see the people who liked the movie also be represented and maybe contest/challenge them a little here and there.

Cool his business told him it feels like a waste of time because sherdog has it's mind made up and this is the internet.

Lastly who exactly is he hurting or upsetting cause why SW fans can't even come in a recent news thread to share ideas, hype themselves up without a huge circle jerk of hate and there is this guy here that likes the movie so let's make fun of him or ignore him etc whatever it is.. doesn't anyone from that other camp see how absurd this thing is.

PS: I don't think we reached the point of calling it a bad movie objectively.. like I said all metrics prove you guys that dislike it are the minority and I feel it would be revealed yet again in December when we get some numbers and more positive reviews.
(Solo did poorly for a lot of reasons and the TLJ backlash was just 1 piece of he puzzle in my opinion.)

I was one who initially ignored the plotholes in TFA and still enjoyed it and actually liked Kylo Ren. I also enjoyed Rogue One. TLJ, however has too many moments that don't make any sense. If you really look at what happens in the movie, you cannot defend the actions of Leia or Holdo. Even the way Holdo dresses makes no sense whatsoever. You cannot really justify how many convenient moments there are and even the emotions they are conveying at key moments. People are happy when they should be gutted that they've seen thousands of their peers die.

I genuinely think it's a bad movie. It's a mess. I wanted to like it, but I just couldn't.

 

[ssBaldy]

TFA was shitty remake of episode 4. TLJ was better in some parts(Ben Swolo) but plain AWFUL in others (Admiral purple hair, Finn and ugly chick, Luke's story, casino subplot, Rey being a Mery Sue and some more). Solo was a spit in fan's face (Oh u a gurrrrl and say you are good ok sure nvm you killed half our team, you can have 60KKK credits why not).
After all that I am certainly NOT watching this movie on first 2 weeks, I will wait, and if the reception is good, I will watch it on Discount Tuesday when Imax ticket costs $5.

 

[Eusung]

Instead, she looks like Michelle Waterboard. Amirite?!


I was one who initially ignored the plotholes in TFA and still enjoyed it and actually liked Kylo Ren. I also enjoyed Rogue One. TLJ, however has too many moments that don't make any sense. If you really look at what happens in the movie, you cannot defend the actions of Leia or Holdo. Even the way Holdo dresses makes no sense whatsoever. You cannot really justify how many convenient moments there are and even the emotions they are conveying at key moments. People are happy when they should be gutted that they've seen thousands of their peers die.

I genuinely think it's a bad movie. It's a mess. I wanted to like it, but I just couldn't.

Pretty much how I feel.

TLJ is a story and theme over character film. That's why so much feels off or character decisions don't make sense. The themes and story dictate what the characters do when it should be the reverse.

Rey goes from hating Kylo to wanting to "save" him and turns herself into TFO to do this - because the story needs her to.

Poe disobeys Leia's orders because the story needs him to in order for him to fail and learn to be a better leader. Rian Johnson thought his character was too perfect in TFA and so he knocked him down in order to prop him up.

Finn and Rose make the foolish choice of trusting shady guy in prison (Benicio Del Toro) because the story needs them to, in order for them to "fail" and for us to be shocked that the shady looking guy they met in jail turned out to be shady.

Finn is saved by Rose crashing her ship into his because the story needs it, not because it makes sense. We are meant to think Rose saved him from a senseless death. But this is where the story contradicts itself. The story establishes Finn as the authority on how that Death Star tech canon works - so for him to be wrong in thinking he could destroy it by ramming into it just makes him stupid. But then if he was right and that ramming into it would have worked (and saved his friends) then this makes Rose doubly stupid. The movie can't have it both ways - either way you look at it one of them comes off incredibly stupid.

Finn and Rose get caught because they illegally parked on a beach...because the story needed them to get caught so they could meet the shady guy in the jail and then "fail" in order to learn their lesson.

Basically, each major character fails because they are written to be stupid - not by facing challenges.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

I loved TFA and TLJ.

Hope Ep 9 is great too, I think we get a tittle next week.

In JJ we trust.

How anyone could like either of those steaming shit piles, is beyond me.
A show of what makes a good film is if you hypothetically take the franchise away, would the film stand up on its own merit.
In the case of all star wars films after the original trilogy, the answer is a big fat no.

*with exception maybe of rogue one.