STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

[BisexualMMA]

LOL I kept thinking the same shit during the movie too.. like "Did Rian Johnson negotiate for a cut of the merchandise sales?"

the jedi temple caretakers, porgs, the entire Not-Hoth sequence, it all just felt like setup for toys/merchandise that he could reap the benefits of...

Unfortunately, these were another one of Rian Johnson's jokes to himself at the expense of the audience. They're his metaphor for longtime or hardcore Star Wars fans that go to conventions and stuff. The Jedi Caretakers have "protected the Jedi ways since they were created" and like the hardcore fans, the caretakers whine and bitch and scurry about when someone pokes a hole in a building on the island or changes something.

They're ugly little frog nun things (nuns=virgins) and it's no accident that Rey doesn't apologize when she knocks down an ancient statue and it rolls down and smashes the caretakers' (fans') wheelbarrow full of dumb old Jedi shit.

The double punch line is that these fans will go out and buy figurines of these creatures made to mock them. Gotcha!

 

[BisexualMMA]

Flying a minuscule ship into something the size of a moon won’t do anything.

Sorry but you’re wrong here and the last Jedi proved that to be the case. Since one cruiser didn’t destroy a much smaller ship

Anything impacting at the actual speed of light will do an incredible amount of damage.

 

[Magooglie]

it isn't teleportation though, its hyperspace. You're not disappearing and reappearing almost instantly. You're traveling thru hyperspace. It's depicted in every movie.

Also I don't know about your example. I think the Death Star is large enough there there will be damage but superficial at best.


You're not teleporting into the center, you're crashing on the outside of it.

But we don't know the specifics of hyperspace. So they could presumably travel through it and then take the exit at the Death Star reactor area. Hyperspace may be space fold shortcuts and not just a shadow reality that mimics real space.

And as I said before concerning your theory that it's just a fast and destructive projectile, if they want to attack from the outside in then they hit the Death Star where the reactor chutes are that's an unobstructed pathway. I'd say hyperspace attack has at least the effective distance that an X-Wing torpedo has.

 

[Guestx]

Unfortunately, these were another one of Rian Johnson's jokes to himself at the expense of the audience. They're his metaphor for longtime or hardcore Star Wars fans that go to conventions and stuff. The Jedi Caretakers have "protected the Jedi ways since they were created" and like the hardcore fans, the caretakers whine and bitch and scurry about when someone pokes a hole in a building on the island or changes something.

They're ugly little frog nun things (nuns=virgins) and it's no accident that Rey doesn't apologize when she knocks down an ancient statue and it rolls down and smashes the caretakers' (fans') wheelbarrow full of dumb old Jedi shit.

The double punch line is that these fans will go out and buy figurines of these creatures made to mock them. Gotcha!

You're in rare form ITT BMMA.

What's most confounding to me is just how CERTAIN you are about your interpretations, despite how outlandish they are.

 

[BisexualMMA]

You're in rare form ITT BMMA.

What's most confounding to me is just how CERTAIN you are about your interpretations, despite how outlandish they are.

If you don't see it, you don't see it. What's there to say.

 

[Guestx]

If you don't see it, you don't see it. What's there to say.

Well, I mean, you have to admit that the shit you're coming up with is pretty far out there and that there are other, simpler, less profane interpretations at hand.

 

[BisexualMMA]

Well, I mean, you have to admit that the shit you're coming up with is pretty far out there and that there are other, simpler, less profane interpretations at hand.

I find it to be fairly transparent.

 

[Guestx]

I find it to be fairly transparent.

I see.

I actually showed a friend of mine some of your comments and he described it as "the dark side of the Internet."

I think you're certainly free to arrive at whatever conclusions you're lead to, but again, the sense of certainty is strange to me when there's a much simpler, more conventional Occam's Razor way to go with it.

 

[BisexualMMA]

I see.

I actually showed a friend of mine some of your comments and he described it as "the dark side of the Internet."

I think you're certainly free to arrive at whatever conclusions you're lead to, but again, the sense of certainty is strange to me when there's a much simpler, more conventional Occam's Razor way to go with it.

Don't know what to say to that. I didn't say Luke molested his nephew in the movie. I said Rian Johnson was intentionally using subliminal molestation imagery. The reason I see it is because he put it there.

As for stuff like the nuns metaphor, several lines in the film are commentary on longtime Star Wars fans.

Kylo Ren to Rey: Your greatest weakness is that you look for your parents in Han Solo and Luke Skywalker.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

LOL I kept thinking the same shit during the movie too.. like "Did Rian Johnson negotiate for a cut of the merchandise sales?"

the jedi temple caretakers, porgs, the entire Not-Hoth sequence, it all just felt like setup for toys/merchandise that he could reap the benefits of,

this movie was a movie made for trailers, not for a coherent plot. Like seriously

I'm still waiting for an explanation as to what the Rebel Alliance plan was with the salt spewing old ass B-wing fighters? was it literally a suicide mission? they didnt have weapons on board? so why is Rose shocked that Finn is going to sacrifice himself if literally the only purpose of their mission appears to be to kill themselves trying to blow up the battering ram?

oh right...its for the cool trailer visuals

Another thing i found idiotic about this scene was, why did they all have the red smoke coming out of their backs?
They were already easy targets, now they were just begging to be destroyed with those highlights on them. None of those shitty vehicles should have made it 5 feet out the door.

 

[Goonerview]

Unfortunately, these were another one of Rian Johnson's jokes to himself at the expense of the audience. They're his metaphor for longtime or hardcore Star Wars fans that go to conventions and stuff. The Jedi Caretakers have "protected the Jedi ways since they were created" and like the hardcore fans, the caretakers whine and bitch and scurry about when someone pokes a hole in a building on the island or changes something.

They're ugly little frog nun things (nuns=virgins) and it's no accident that Rey doesn't apologize when she knocks down an ancient statue and it rolls down and smashes the caretakers' (fans') wheelbarrow full of dumb old Jedi shit.

The double punch line is that these fans will go out and buy figurines of these creatures made to mock them. Gotcha!

Hidden in plain sight.

 

[Goonerview]

Don't know what to say to that. I didn't say Luke molested his nephew in the movie. I said Rian Johnson was intentionally using subliminal molestation imagery. The reason I see it is because he put it there.

As for stuff like the nuns metaphor, several lines in the film are commentary on longtime Star Wars fans.

Kylo Ren to Rey: Your greatest weakness is that you look for your parents in Han Solo and Luke Skywalker.

I saw it too.

I saw your comments on this before I watched the actual film, but when that scene came up, it was pretty clear. Rian was turning Luke Skywalker into a creepy uncle.

Him standing over his nephews bed with a sword in his hand and his frenzy like facial expressions ... it was gross.

Rian Johnson destroyed Luke Skywalker.

Even Kylo Ren's misplaced anger towards Luke shows this. At the end, when he orders the AT-ATs to shoot at Luke, he was like "Everyone fire at that man". It showed the kind of disgust someone might have for someone who molested them.

 

[Goonerview]

Rotten Tomatoes is NOW: 51%

It appears to be continually decreasing.

 

[Guestx]

Don't know what to say to that. I didn't say Luke molested his nephew in the movie. I said Rian Johnson was intentionally using subliminal molestation imagery. The reason I see it is because he put it there.

As for stuff like the nuns metaphor, several lines in the film are commentary on longtime Star Wars fans.

Kylo Ren to Rey: Your greatest weakness is that you look for your parents in Han Solo and Luke Skywalker.

Why is that not just a line from Kylo to Rey, saying that she needs to embrace her own identity rather than looking for validation from some exterior source?

Why do you somehow take it as a commentary on Star Wars fans?

I mean, I was reading an interview the other day where Johnson himself said that he's been a Star Wars fan his entire life. He says he's one of the very guys you're saying he's talking shit to. Now, you could presume that's just lip service since he's the director of a Star Wars movie, but why? I think to even make a Star Wars movie you have to already be pretty deep into the mythology.

 

[Guestx]

Don't know what to say to that. I didn't say Luke molested his nephew in the movie. I said Rian Johnson was intentionally using subliminal molestation imagery. The reason I see it is because he put it there.

As for stuff like the nuns metaphor, several lines in the film are commentary on longtime Star Wars fans.

Kylo Ren to Rey: Your greatest weakness is that you look for your parents in Han Solo and Luke Skywalker.

I saw it too.

I saw your comments on this before I watched the actual film, but when that scene came up, it was pretty clear. Rian was turning Luke Skywalker into a creepy uncle.

Him standing over his nephews bed with a sword in his hand and his frenzy like facial expressions ... it was gross.

Rian Johnson destroyed Luke Skywalker.

Even Kylo Ren's misplaced anger towards Luke shows this. At the end, when he orders the AT-ATs to shoot at Luke, he was like "Everyone fire at that man". It showed the kind of disgust someone might have for someone who molested them.

You two should make a Room 237-esque documentary about The Last Jedi.

 

[BisexualMMA]

Why is that not just a line from Kylo to Rey, saying that she needs to embrace her own identity rather than looking for validation from some exterior source?

It's the chance to pass off commentary on the fans as dialogue between characters, and he disguises it effectively. It serves both purposes well. That's why, despite my finding this to be a film made with reprehensible intentions, I ended up giving it a 5 instead of a 1. Johnson uses metaphors effectively, he inserts commentary and disguises it effectively, and he uses subliminal imagery effectively. Like I said way back in the thread, a lot of this film, even beyond the visuals, is done quite skillfully. But to me, it's an application of skill to a goal I frown upon.

Why do you somehow take it as a commentary on Star Wars fans?

Again, I just found it to be fairly transparent.

I mean, I was reading an interview the other day where Johnson himself said that he's been a Star Wars fan his entire life. He says he's one of the very guys you're saying he's talking shit to. Now, you could presume that's just lip service since he's the director of a Star Wars movie, but why? I think to even make a Star Wars movie you have to already be pretty deep into the mythology.

If indeed he did or does love the lore and world of Star Wars, then his ego certainly got the better of him somewhere along the way. He entered the franchise and opted to make it the Rian Johnson show. If he loves Star Wars, he loves himself more.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

You two should make a Room 237-esque documentary about The Last Jedi.

They have convinced me

 

[BisexualMMA]

They have convinced me

Yeah, but you're trolling this thread like Rian Johnson trolls his own audience.

 

[Guestx]

They have convinced me

Well you haven't seen the movie.

Or you have seen it, but you're pretending you haven't.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Well you haven't seen the movie.

Or you have seen it, but you're pretending you haven't.

I think it works out in the end

Rapist Luke is not something I could handle

If I see it now It will be the only thing I can think about