STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

[James4210]

Force projection was the coolest thing in the movie. I think Mark liked it. He'd seen the movie well before premiere.

No no no my friend.

 

[James4210]

Speaking of hot, as I said in my review I know this is shallow but I wished Rose switched roles with her much hotter sister Paige.

I agree Rose was little more than a shaved Ewok.

 

[sickc0d3r]

youre just being a big meanie now

Hey, I was being nice. I didn't even mention the keystone cops of space soldiery. Storm troopers ...

 

[90 50]

So what’s the one/under on broom kid in IX?

Broom kid I’m sure is what rians trilogy will be about.

On another note watched Kevin smiths review of the movie.

It’s an hour and a half long and it’s pretty much on point almost Word for Word how I feel and would have reviewed it.

But Smith is a long time SW fan from childhood like me also

 

[90 50]

How about that time Leia choked a 4000 lb worm by wrapping a chain around its "neck"? Or when a bunch of teddy bears destroyed giant robots with rocks and sticks? Or that time a farm boy piloted an x-wing fighter for the first time through a maze of laser canons and shot a torpedo into a two meter hole that just happened to be a perfect tunnel to the core which destroyed a moon sized planet killing weapon?

Yeah, Star Wars, man. It's all a pile of shit.

Yeah but he used to bullseye (insert forgotten name of creatures on tattoine here) that are the same size.

He grew up flying in canyons and shooting shit. That’s not a stretch at all.

 

[BisexualMMA]

I agree Rose was little more than a shaved Ewok.

Without the sex appeal of an Ewok.

 

[TrueBias]

Yeah but he used to bullseye (insert forgotten name of creatures on tattoine here) that are the same size.

He grew up flying in canyons and shooting shit. That’s not a stretch at all.

I was going to delineate each detail, but fuck it.

 

[Zazen]

Just got back from seeing it for the first time, and I had low expectations but they were shattered by exactly how terrible it was.

I was only interested in the movie when Rey, Kylo, Luke, or Leia were on screen. Otherwise, I was completely bored. Even then it wasn't all good, mostly bad, but at least it kept my attention.

It occured to me that what Disney has been doing to Pirates of the Caribbean, they're now doing with Star Wars. Huge CGI setpieces, but there's no tension because we all know all of the main characters we all know and love aren't going to be killed off. Jack Sparrow isn't going to die, no matter what odds he up against, and neither is Rey or whoever else we're supposed to care about.

Don't get me started on Luke's death. I'd sure others have explained their displeasure with it in the hundreds of posts within the last week. Whatever they say about it being pathetic, I agree.

2/10

So this is my last Star Wars movie for a very long time to come, unless they announce a Darth Vader movie, or announce Hayden Christiansen is coming back as an Anakin Skywalker clone for Episode 9. But even then, my interest in that was based upon the Old Luke / Young Anakin lightsaber match that would have been awesome.

So, my interest in Disney's Star Wars is dead. I may have to go back and read a few dozen old extended universe books.

Fuck... man... so dissapointing.

Because the originals killed off so many main characters right? Oh nevermind all the main characters ended up in the sequels thirty years later. You're an emotional wreck and not thinking logically, those same criticisms you made can apply to the original trilogy. This is not a 2/10 movie unless you enjoy trolling.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Because the originals killed off so many main characters right? Oh nevermind all the main characters ended up in the sequels thirty years later. You're an emotional wreck and not thinking logically, those same criticisms you made can apply to the original trilogy. This is not a 2/10 movie unless you enjoy trolling.

I'm not defending him but the originals killed plenty of characters

Yoda
Obi
Vader
Palpatine
Jabba
Boba Fett

These are all pretty iconic characters in Star Wars.

 

[sickc0d3r]

Yeah but he used to bullseye (insert forgotten name of creatures on tattoine here) that are the same size.

He grew up flying in canyons and shooting shit. That’s not a stretch at all.

Womp rats!

 

[Zazen]

I'm not defending him but the originals killed plenty of characters

Yoda
Obi
Vader
Palpatine
Jabba
Bobba Fett

These are all pretty iconic characters in Star Wars.

Fett was a nobody in those movies.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Fett was a nobody in those movies.

Fine even if we disregard the popularity of Fett the list is till pretty long

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Because the originals killed off so many main characters right? Oh nevermind all the main characters ended up in the sequels thirty years later. You're an emotional wreck and not thinking logically, those same criticisms you made can apply to the original trilogy. This is not a 2/10 movie unless you enjoy trolling.

I'm not trolling, and I stand by my 2/10 score.

I had little problem with the decision to kill off Luke, but HOW he was killed.

So Jedi suddenly have the ability to project their physical form across lightyears? And apparently Luke just decided his work is done and 'became one with the force,' with little explanation as to why he couldn't go on.

You're an emotional wreck and not thinking logically.

Wrong. I'm not a young child walking out of a theater after the movie he saw didn't have a few things happen he expected to happen.

I expected the movie to be dissapointing, but I didn't expect it to suck.

You're more emotional about my review than I am of the movie.

those same criticisms you made can apply to the original trilogy.

Nope.

Luke was KOed and almost eaten by the snow gorilla in Empire, then almost froze to death, and he still had to stay in a bacta tank for a while to funny recover. By the end of the movie, his hand was cut off and was in shock when he fell onto the falcon.

Only time any of the main characters in Ep8 were injured was Ray when her shoulder was cut in that pathetic lightsaber fight.

In Ep8, even win Finn was heading straight into that lazer battering ram in a suicide attemot, at no point was it believable he was actually going to die. It was obvious he was going to be saved by a Deus Ex Machina, especially since there was already a suicide/martyr sacrifice by the chick that light-speeded the ship into the 1st Order Fleet.

 

[liljoe]

I'm not defending him but the originals killed plenty of characters

Yoda
Obi
Vader
Palpatine
Jabba
Boba Fett

These are all pretty iconic characters in Star Wars.

Wouldn't mind seeing Jabba in the Han Solo movie next year.

 

[Guestx]

Perhaps different scopes in terms of fan and studio expectation which might be a factor in what the direct/writer was able to get away with but I wouldn't say theres anything in TLJ that mandates it needed to have a wide focus.

This to me is actually a clear fault in both of the sequel films that I think they share with the prequels, they look to show too much when it comes to wider politics/setting rather than depending on inference as in the original films and Rogue One. The wider rebel cause really only comes into the story as it directly effects the characters stories and theres much more of a sense were seeing a small part of the setting which creates a sense of a much larger scale. By attempting to show everything of iimportance the prequels/sequels distract from the main characters plots IMHO and in the sequels especially end up creating a setting that feels small.

There wouldn't have been much wrong with the reisstance taking a back seat for much of this film just as the rebellion does in Empire after the escape from Hoth.

One thing that attracts me to the prequels is that the world feels particularly big. I like that.

The depiction of Coruscant in particular is outstanding.

And unlike a lot of other people, I tend to like the stuff with the Senate. It makes the story feel large, even grand.

 

[Guestx]

I'm not trolling, and I stand by my 2/10 score.

I had little problem with the decision to kill off Luke, but HOW he was killed.

So Jedi suddenly have the ability to project their physical form across lightyears? And apparently Luke just decided his work is done and 'became one with the force,' with little explanation as to why he couldn't go on.

My interpretation was that Luke's projection technique required so much of his life force that he was unable to recover. When you look at his face as he's actually in the middle of the act, it's obvious that it's taking a toll on him. His confronting Kylo was ultimately an act of self-sacrifice. Exchanging his own life to save the lives of others.

I personally found it very poetic.

 

[sickc0d3r]

Yes they foreshadowed that when Kylo said Rey couldn't be projecting to him because it would kill her, back when they were pen-pals. Luke literally committed force suicide.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

My interpretation was that Luke's projection technique required so much of his life force that he was unable to recover. When you look at his face as he's actually in the middle of the act, it's obvious that it's taking a toll on him. His confronting Kylo was ultimately an act of self-sacrifice. Exchanging his own life to save the lives of others.

I personally found it very poetic.

My interpretation of whatever the force is able to do, is whatever is convienient for the plot, and the plot was written for Luke to die at the end.

And Luke becomes a symbol, and that symbol is more powerful for the rebels than whatever Luke himself could have been.

*Puke Gif*

 

[CauseImbetta]

 

[Guestx]

My interpretation of whatever the force is able to do, is whatever is convienient for the plot, and the plot was written for Luke to die at the end.

And Luke becomes a symbol, and that symbol is more powerful for the rebels than whatever Luke himself could have been.

*Puke Gif*

Mark Hamill is 66 years old. Luke can't stick around forever.

As for the nature of the Force, it makes sense in my opinion that future Jedi will learn how to use it in new ways. Look at it like MMA fighters becoming more refined as the sport develops and evolves.

The only problem, as I see it, is if the precedent that was set in this film is violated with no logical explanation in future films.