STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

[BisexualMMA]

We got clapping in my theater. Seemed like a very satisfied audience.

I think the poor reception by SOME fans to this film is the same reason why the prequels got such a poor reception from many people: They wanted and expected one thing and got something else. They had a hard time understanding and accepting this vision that was different from their own.

I'm not saying there's nothing to criticize, but the end product was very satisfying nonetheless.

As a very vague statement, you could say this about any sequel that people didn't like. That doesn't mean they didn't also dislike it because they found it to be a bad movie, or because it was a bad movie, or because it was subject to valid criticisms and complaints.

Your description there also fits Highlander 2.

 

[Fedorgasm]

There's really only 2 reasons why like should have gone into hiding:

1. To focus on training and become stronger
2. To cut himself off from the force because he was being pulled to the darkside and could no longer resist, and would rather give up the force than become evil.

 

[Fedorgasm]

This works, and what they shot might be similar To this and cgi changed it and is why hamil is so shook.

Luke actually shows up, deflects all the Walker fire and fights Kylo while the resistance escapes.

Unfortunately since Rey has beat Kylo twice there is no way luke looses to Kylo. I mean he beat Darth Vader yo

Yeah the only way around that would be if kylo was sandbagging. Like he's been more powerful than snoke for a while, but he had reasons for pretending to be weak. Maybe snoke knew the secret location of a powerful sith artifact, and kylo didn't want to kill him until he discovered that location.

 

[Guestx]

I didnt in mine and another poster said he heard boos.

The only time the crowd laughed was when the salamander maids got their wheel barrow fucked. I too laughed.

We got lots of laughs and, like I said, clapping. Hard for me to imagine people booing. I've never heard booing in theater in my life and I've been in far worse movies than this one.

Like I said, I found it to be a thrilling and engaging film. Never a dull moment. Characters I cared about. Perfect tone, punctuated by just the right amount (and kind) of humor. I even liked the additional world-building that we got with the Canto Bight.

My heart breaks a little for Rian in that he crafted a great film that he obviously put a ton of work into and some fans think the best think to do is shit on it.

 

[TrueBias]

What is a pile of shit with more shit on it?

 

[Guestx]

As a very vague statement, you could say this about any sequel that people didn't like. That doesn't mean they didn't also dislike because they found it to be a bad movie, or because it was a bad movie, or because it was subject to valid criticisms and complaints.

Your description there also fits Highlander 2.

I have a very hard time believing that the emotional investment some fans have in the series is not coloring their vision.

I have a friend--long-time, die-hard Star Wars fan--and this is his conclusion as well.

Here's what he had to say:

Currently, on RT, the User Score for The Phantom Menace is greater than The Last Jedi.

The total number of reviews are wildly different, and I expect the final number to change.

To me, this represents the very emotional reaction of many in the hardcore fan base that saw it opening night, and had issues with it.

Meanwhile, critics loved it.

I could easily go on and on about flaws/issues, but they’re not big enough to derail the good of what Johnson did. He is going to be doing a spin-off trilogy, and now that I’ve seen what he can do, I am cool with that.

He gave the film an 8/10.

 

[thomnasty]

Damnit, it's my brothers birthday and he wants to go see this tonight.

I don't know if I have it any in me to see this movie again.

 

[sickc0d3r]

We got clapping in my theater. Seemed like a very satisfied audience.

I think the poor reception by SOME fans to this film is the same reason why the prequels got such a poor reception from many people: They wanted and expected one thing and got something else. They had a hard time understanding and accepting this vision that was different from their own.

I'm not saying there's nothing to criticize, but the end product was very satisfying nonetheless.

The heart of this one for me was in the layers added to Rey and Kylo's relationship, which I happened to think was very cleverly done. They bonded over their mistrust of Luke. The person Rey met was far from the legend she expected, and Kylo tapped into that disappointment. In the end he used her to rid himself of Snoke, and she realized it, which is a big reason why she refused to join him. I had no idea if she would or wouldn't at that moment because of all the foreshadowing on the island.

The scene in Snoke's throne room was riveting. All the main characters were excellent on screen, and I can watch Daisy's pixie features and pretty smile all day. The humor was missing the mark for me at first, but then it settled in and I laughed a lot. Charismatic actors giving old school "go for it" performances went a long way towards my enjoyment of this one, despite some flaws and a few perplexing choices.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Just got back from seeing it for the first time, and I had low expectations but they were shattered by exactly how terrible it was.

I was only interested in the movie when Rey, Kylo, Luke, or Leia were on screen. Otherwise, I was completely bored. Even then it wasn't all good, mostly bad, but at least it kept my attention.

It occured to me that what Disney has been doing to Pirates of the Caribbean, they're now doing with Star Wars. Huge CGI setpieces, but there's no tension because we all know all of the main characters we all know and love aren't going to be killed off. Jack Sparrow isn't going to die, no matter what odds he up against, and neither is Rey or whoever else we're supposed to care about.

Don't get me started on Luke's death. I'd sure others have explained their displeasure with it in the hundreds of posts within the last week. Whatever they say about it being pathetic, I agree.

2/10

So this is my last Star Wars movie for a very long time to come, unless they announce a Darth Vader movie, or announce Hayden Christiansen is coming back as an Anakin Skywalker clone for Episode 9. But even then, my interest in that was based upon the Old Luke / Young Anakin lightsaber match that would have been awesome.

So, my interest in Disney's Star Wars is dead. I may have to go back and read a few dozen old extended universe books.

Fuck... man... so dissapointing.

 

[liljoe]

This was already debunked.

Seriously, just take less than 5 min and look at the reviews. You dont have to read them, just count them toward thw good ones.

Imdb has already counted them. That is the current score. Are you saying they are undercounting the negatives?

 

[liljoe]

Just got back from seeing it for the first time, and I had low expectations but they were shattered by exactly how terrible it was.

I was only interested in the movie when Rey, Kylo, Luke, or Leia were on screen. Otherwise, I was completely bored. Even then it wasn't all good, mostly bad, but at least it kept my attention.

It occured to me that what Disney has been doing to Pirates of the Caribbean, they're now doing with Star Wars. Huge CGI setpieces, but there's no tension because we all know all of the main characters we all know and love aren't going to be killed off. Jack Sparrow isn't going to die, no matter what odds he up against, and neither is Rey or whoever else we're supposed to care about.

Don't get me started on Luke's death. I'd sure others have explained their displeasure with it in the hundreds of posts within the last week. Whatever they say about it being pathetic, I agree.

2/10

So this is my last Star Wars movie for a very long time to come, unless they announce a Darth Vader movie, or announce Hayden Christiansen is coming back as an Anakin Skywalker clone for Episode 9. But even then, my interest in that was based upon the Old Luke / Young Anakin lightsaber match that would have been awesome.

So, my interest in Disney's Star Wars is dead. I may have to go back and read a few dozen old extended universe books.

Fuck... man... so dissapointing.

Honest review. Respect your opinion.

 

[Guestx]

The heart of this one for me was in the layers added to Rey and Kylo's relationship, which I happened to think was very cleverly done. They bonded over their mistrust of Luke. The person Rey met was far from the legend she expected, and Kylo tapped into that disappointment. In the end he used her to rid himself of Snoke, and she realized it, which is a big reason why she refused to join him. I had no idea if she would or wouldn't at that moment because of all the foreshadowing on the island.

The scene in Snoke's throne room was riveting. All the main characters were excellent on screen, and I can watch Daisy's pixie features and pretty smile all day. The humor was missing the mark for me at first, but then it settled in and I laughed a lot. Charismatic actors giving old school "go for it" performances went a long way towards my enjoyment of this one, despite some flaws and a few perplexing choices.

I agree with almost all of this, though I do think that Kylo is obviously genuinely conflicted and I also think he is genuinely drawn toward Rey. It's not as simple as he was just using her.

I thought the scene near the end where Rey was on the ship looking at Kylo and Kylo was looking back at her, and the ship door closed, said a lot.

The look on his face, I feel, wasn't a look of anger or hatred. It was yearning, mixed perhaps with a tinge of regret.

There was some serious acting going on in that moment.

 

[vcmmafan]

IMDB
7.7/10 from
169,971 Users



Rotten Tommatoes
54% Liked Audience Score With With the Audience average being 3.2/5 (or 64/100)
134,473 Users

In this case it was 134,473 Audience reviews that mostly hated it vs 329 critics that gave it good reviews on RT

 

[sickc0d3r]

I agree with almost all of this, though I do think that Kylo is obviously genuinely conflicted and I also think he is genuinely drawn toward Rey. It's not as simple as he was just using her.

I thought the scene near the end where Rey was on the ship looking at Kylo and Kylo was looking back at her, and the ship door closed, said a lot.

The look on his face, I feel, wasn't a look of anger or hatred. It was yearning, mixed perhaps with a tinge of regret.

There was some serious acting going on in that moment.

Yeah, he may have been using her and also is developing feelings for her. Driver killed it in both movies, imo. Good actor.

I am now wondering if they are related in some other way despite the supposed reveal about her parents. Also, that Del Toro character sorta fits the description of her parents.... just sayin.

 

[minute bull]

What is a pile of shit with more shit on it?

Too easy....

In my theater, once Yoda appeared, a guy proclaimed, "FINALLY something happens worth happening." Poor guy.

 

[D3THRONED]

This was already debunked.

Seriously, just take less than 5 min and look at the reviews. You dont have to read them, just count them toward thw good ones.

if they're tainted, it's tainted in favor of the movie. anyone can easily go and actually read the reviews and you'll come to the same conclusion. most people didn't like the movie. all the negative reviews left pretty cohesive and detailed reasons why. while I've seen countless idiot post 10/10 best star wars yet and give no reason. I think most of us have higher standards when it comes to certain movies hence the let down for star wars. this had the potential to be the best and it's rated the worst (they can deflect from this fact all they want) but at the end of the day it's still a bad film. also, the ratings are in a steady decline. The white knights of Disney are pretty upset that we don't enjoy the movie like they do. There's nothing "riveting" about this film besides a light speed kamikaze, that was fucking dope.

 

[TrueBias]

Too easy....

In my theater, once Yoda appeared, a guy proclaimed, "FINALLY something happens worth happening." Poor guy.

Hah, that was a part that i liked. He looked odd as shit, then i noticed it was the puppet and i was obviously forgiving.

Then something stupid happens..

Not only does yoda hastily do what Luke was going to do, but now ghosts can have a physical interaction with the world.

likewha???

So now our heroes can die, but they can still kick ass. Jesus, nothing is at stake.

 

[minute bull]

So now our heroes can die, but they can still kick ass. Jesus, nothing is at stake.

That's why I think JJ's gonna go cray-cray and do a Force Ghost Duel. YOU WANT LUKE VS SNOKE -- YOU GET LUKE VS SNOKE! AND YOU GET LUKE VS SNOKE!

 

[TrueBias]

The heart of this one for me was in the layers added to Rey and Kylo's relationship, which I happened to think was very cleverly done. They bonded over their mistrust of Luke. The person Rey met was far from the legend she expected, and Kylo tapped into that disappointment. In the end he used her to rid himself of Snoke, and she realized it, which is a big reason why she refused to join him. I had no idea if she would or wouldn't at that moment because of all the foreshadowing on the island.

The scene in Snoke's throne room was riveting. All the main characters were excellent on screen, and I can watch Daisy's pixie features and pretty smile all day. The humor was missing the mark for me at first, but then it settled in and I laughed a lot. Charismatic actors giving old school "go for it" performances went a long way towards my enjoyment of this one, despite some flaws and a few perplexing choices.

Riveting eh?

I was scavenging for anything up to this point, willing to accept anything average and promise to lie to myself later about how "riveting."

When the light saber struck snoke, i first thought, its an injury. This is how theyll get away. Then..well, i was wrong.

Then all these valets come out and they all have these medieval space weapons and they *kinda put up a fight. Then i noticed, all of them have blast shields on... They didnt seem Sith like, so they basically put up a basic fight and did it blindly.

When it was over, kylo wanted to be a bad guy again. This, THIS is what people are referring to as "fresh, unexpected?" Were out of villains and we have a fucking 3rd movie, of course hes gonna stay bad, the ugly bastard killed han solo. This wasnt genius.

No, what was unexpected was a star wars movie where no light saber v light saber battle happens.

What was fresh was me, feeling a sense of dissatisfaction. Yes, ive never felt a sense of "thats it?!" when watching a star wars movie. Def new feels here.

 

[TrueBias]

Imdb has already counted them. That is the current score. Are you saying they are undercounting the negatives?

It sure seems like it. Or there were a ton of 10/10 at the very start, before it came out.

I dont know how it works, but taking a quick stroll down their reviews confirmed that they dont know how it works either.