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STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

If you have seen STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI, how would you rate it?


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That's just two frames. The fight as a whole and the ending is epic.
If by the "ending" you mean episodes 4-8....

I get it. And ROTS is the exact movie where Lucas threw in the towel and I don't blame him. It's the movie that made him realize there is no pleasing hardcore fans. He gave us everything we said we wanted after eviscerating him for the previous two, and we still weren't happy.

Outside the show, the franchise forgot what it is, in trying to be so many things for so many different people. But there will be plenty more chances now that there will be one every fucking year now.
 
The Phantom Menace: 6
Attack Of The Clones: 4
Revenge Of The Sith: 7

Rogue One: 6

A New Hope: 8
The Empire Strikes Back: 9
Return Of The Jedi: 6

The Force Awakens: 5
The Last Jedi: 7
 
The Phantom Menace: 6
Attack Of The Clones: 4
Revenge Of The Sith: 7

Rogue One: 6

A New Hope: 8
The Empire Strikes Back: 9
Return Of The Jedi: 6

The Force Awakens: 5
The Last Jedi: 7

Clones was so much better than phantom.. Sam Jackson's worst acting in history can only do so much damage.
 
Frankly, most people who aren't kids just aren't going to watch it because it's animated.

I am fine with animation but even I gave it about five minutes and was like "This is for kids" and turned it off.

I'd totally be down for a live-action series though.

Bro, at the very least, go through the series and find key story arcs and watch those. The first two seasons were generic, it was the later seasons that were good and more mature.

https://nerdist.com/essential-star-wars-the-clone-wars-episodes-to-watch-before-they-leave-netflix/

Or
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Not in the picture (but is in the nerdist link above) is the first half of season 6 before Disney bought and shitcanned the the second half of Clone Wars on the Cartoon Network. Specifically Episodes 1-4 where a clone trooper discovers the secrets of Order 66 and episodes 10-13 where Yoda travels to Moribund the Sith home planet.


Even Shatner is getting in on the TLJ being shit debate....




Wow. Shatner went full beast mode.
 
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Clones was so much better than phantom.. Sam Jackson's worst acting in history can only do so much damage.

Nah man, Clones narrative was a mess. And that dialogue bruh..the fireplace scene.

Who the fuck was Sifo Dyas? They never explained that shit. Count Dooku falling to the dark side before Vader, weakened the lore that Skywalker would fall.

The visual style Lucas went for was inspired, but just didn't work at the time. It being filmed all digital looked noticeably worse than Phantom, which was shot on film. Yoda and that lightsaber...Dicaprio not playing Skywalker..apparently Lucas didn't have a shooting script until 2 weeks before filming commenced. It shows.

I'll say this, Attack Of The Clones has some nice and very unique set pieces. But that movie should have went all the way with it's callbacks to the space adventure serial of the past/Flash Gordon aspects. Like others have mentioned with Sky Captain. I rated based on my desire and ability to sit through it, which is low. To me it's easily the worst Star Wars movie, and a very disappointing episode given it's importance in the story.
 
I'd take RotS over FA or LJ.

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Entertainment value is subjective. We knew the story arc, so the only thing the prequels could do was overcome that limitation with good storytelling. We knew what had to happen, all the key plot points.
And.... yah. An asshole we never really liked became someone we liked even less and then something he deserved happened to him.

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The opening scenes, fight with Anakin v Dooku and Palpatine saying "do it", "he was too dangerous to be left alive", later to be repeated by Mace Windu. This movie is sooo deep.

The conversations betwee Anakin and Palpatine were great.

We had this scene, which was METAL as f**K:

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Anakin becoming Vader:

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It's the star wars movie I have rewatched the most.
It's fanboy garbage in search of a plot that makes sense.
I can even root for a bad guy whose motivations are made clear.
The entire trilogy was an incomprehensible mess.
 
Entertainment value is subjective. We knew the story arc, so the only thing the prequels could do was overcome that limitation with good storytelling. We knew what had to happen, all the key plot points.
And.... yah. An asshole we never really liked became someone we liked even less and then something he deserved happened to him.

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That's like complaining you don't like Titanic because you know it's going to get hit by an iceberg. There are a lot of valid reasons to hate on that movie, but knowing how it must end isn't one of them:rolleyes:

Palpatine had more style and class than Ren and Snoke combined. And while it's hardly McGregor's finest performance, the Feels are strong with him in the last scene with Anakin.

"You were the Chosen One! You were supposed to destroy the Sith, not join them! Bring balance to the Force, not leave it in Darkness! You were my brother, Anakin. I loved you..."
 
I think people are drinking the RLM cool aid when it comes to the prequels.
He deconstructed the prequels brutally but did it as a movie critic who knows story structure and quite a bit about filmmaking. Also as an obviously huge SW fan who like myself was enormously disappointed in the prequels and what could have been.
His points are valid although assailable.
 
He deconstructed the prequels brutally but did it as a movie critic who knows story structure and quite a bit about filmmaking. Also as an obviously huge SW fan who like myself was enormously disappointed in the prequels and what could have been.
His points are valid although assailable.

It's also funny when the review of a movie has a better narrative structure & is more compelling than the movie it is reviewing
 
That's like complaining you don't like Titanic because you know it's going to get hit by an iceberg. There are a lot of valid reasons to hate on that movie, but knowing how it must end isn't one of them:rolleyes:

Palpatine had more style and class than Ren and Snoke combined. And while it's hardly McGregor's finest performance, the Feels are strong with him in the last scene with Anakin.

"You were the Chosen One! You were supposed to destroy the Sith, not join them! Bring balance to the Force, not leave it in Darkness! You were my brother, Anakin. I loved you..."
It isn't.
Read my post again.
I said, rather, that since we knew the major plot points going in (spoilers, Anakin becomes a bad egg and gets into the suit), we needed a good story with interesting characters, and we got a glitsy, great looking CGI epilepsy inducing schlock fest with flatline characters.

I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi.

I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi.
 
The Last Jedi displays what we have been left with as consumers. Who cares though when we can see another Star Wars movie in a year!

How a person can give this a 10 (excellent) or 9 (great) rating is beyond me.
 
It isn't.
Read my post again.
I said, rather, that since we knew the major plot points going in (spoilers, Anakin becomes a bad egg and gets into the suit), we needed a good story with interesting characters, and we got a glitsy, great looking CGI epilepsy inducing schlock fest with flatline characters.

I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi.

I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi.

The whole plot, from "Do it! to, "Execute Order 66" is driven by Palpatine. McDermaid pretty much carries the whole film, and gives us one of the GOAT Big Bads in any franchise. I was actually cheering him on, he was just so much cooler than the Jedi. I'd rather watch Palpatine than Mary Sue Rey, Supreme Scrotum Face and Emo Ren.

While Portman was her usual annoying self, there was real emotional heft in Obi Wan's arc, having to come to terms with the fact the man he loved as a brother had betrayed not only him but the whole galaxy. Yes, we knew from ANH that Vader was a bastard. But blowing up Aldarin didn't have even half the impact of that scene with the Youngllings...:eek:
 
Clones was so much better than phantom.. Sam Jackson's worst acting in history can only do so much damage.
Not his fault. He had enthusiasm for being in SW, but Lucas did nothing with him, even with his limited dialogue he was given the same line twice ffs
 
Meh.
It's like rooting for Goldman Sachs to make a huge profit. Or judging Conor McGregor's reign as a champion based on his bank account. Or hoping Disney executives can all pay off their yachts.

Firm, but fair.
 
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