Star Wars Megathread

[Myrddin Wild]

ive said it before though and I will say it again....the casual fans, the ones that watch mando and the like arnt the same ones gonna read the high republic stuff.

I'm interested in the high rebpulic and things, its star wars of course I am. but even for me, the guy whose trying to not get invovled in all the politics and shit cant help but be like "....alright".

The only cool part of high republic comic 1 was seeing a younger yoda.

I'm with you on the first release of High Republic, but there's so much potential that I'm looking at the future with wide eyed anticipation.

it's almost completely wide open territory, so finger's crossed they can come up with something cool to do during that time.

Next ep comes out this week, so hopefully they get on with it.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Are you the same twit who relentlessly defended the last jedi?

Oh, look, some misguided ravenous hater jerk off wants to play the insult game with me.



Hmm... what to do...

Spring the Trap
​

I don't "defend" Star Wars. I speak my mind about it, & as it turns out, I do love The Last Jedi. I've seen it 3 times in the movie theaters & at least 3 or 4 more times in my home.

You're probably too fucking stupid to understand someone actually speaking truth instead of joining some Star Wars Hater cult because "Boo Fucking Hoo, they took my childhood hero & made him the same self defeating brat kid he was from the beginning. It was written straight into Yoda's own words in the OT when Obi ghost had a convo with him on Degobah.

Curious if after seeing the OVERWHEALMINGLY POSITIVE AND EMOTIONAL FAN REACTION TO LUKE SKYWALKER IN THE MADALORIAN, if you still think that they handled Luke in a way that their audience was wanting?

Know thy audience.

Fans wanted this;

I will give you "some" validity on "what the audience was wanting" (imo) as a pretense leading up to ep. 8.

For the sake of the minority of the fan base who didn't like it & became ravenous haters, perhaps Disney would've been better to take George Lucas' treatments of "A hermit Luke who is crushed by some prior traumatic event" & went with Super hero Luke all the way through. I would've enjoyed that too. of coarse then there'd be a bunch of jerk offs saying that was too predictable like they did in ep. 7 ffs...

Even I... as someone who now accepts that the same Luke:

• we saw being a whiney bitch at the start of Ep. 4
  
• & that gave up on degobah in ep. 5
  
• & that Yoda knew was too old to train because of all that shit in his psych....

... didn't expect him to dive back to those same tendencies. I went into The Last Jedi with dreams of him being beyond all that stuff & he would be a mega god like superhero with the force who was all those things our inner child wants in a Jung style hero complex.

However, that's not what we got. So what am I going to do, sit around for the next decade spitting venom at it on social media with all the other haters who stink this place up with their lack of appreciation for what I & many others consider a great story? No, I'm going to take a look at exactly what they showed me on screen & see if I vibe with what they did beyond my pretense of it.

As it turns out, it all ads up. It all makes sense, & don't look now, but Luke went out on his sword, giving his life to save the lives of the very people that took down Sid. So he still is a hero... all be it they just showed the human side of his heroism.

So I'm good. It took me about a week to get over my pretense & re-arrange my head about all that super hero speculation I had been doing for the last 2 years since ep. 7 dropped, but in the end, I think it's a fantastic movie & I'm full in on where they went with it.

It was so damn obvious...only a bleeding heart sjw would have defended that crap to the bitter end.

What's obvious, (and canon btw) is that Lucas himself wrote Luke out to be that way before he even sold the company. That was the Luke he sold to Disney. So is George Lucas a "sjw crap defender too?" or do you think that maybe it's okay for people to have their own opinions despite the fact that the haters are just being louder & more annoying while declaring under some communistic viewpoint that everyone should think like them & "anyone who thinks different is wrong."

Look at you right now (next post) forcing your opinion on some nice person who just liked the movie. EVERYONE SHOULD THINK LIKE YOU!!!! Holey fook, you didn't like a movie so everyone else who did... is wrong? Even though you are the minority? GTFO & get a life you Commie piece of shit. You're allowed to have your opinion... but you cross a very dangerous line when you insist that other people are wrong for liking something you don't.

I hope you have more sense than this in your dealings irl or you're going to be in for a long sad road. It's hard to find an echo chamber irl so good luck with that attitude of insisting that everyone thinks like you.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Is it OK for me to say I like all three Sequel movies because they were fun to watch and admit that in my mind we should have no emotional attachment to these movies or characters because it's just a space fiction film series???

I really enjoy all 11 Star Wars feature films except the fucking Phantom Menace.
That one was just an embarrassing, boring, kiddie movie with absolutely no good characters in that movie.

Of coarse it's okay for you to say that. You speak with the majority. Don't mind the louder & more annoying members of Sherdog who while in the minority, can't wrap their head around anything but a communistic way of thinking where everyone should think the same.

I even like Phantom Menace too... so I wonder if you can wrap your head around that. I consider the prequels one of the greatest stories ever told in cinema history & it takes all 3 movies to make that happen.

You are allowed to have an opinion. Even one that's wrong.

Listen to this ravenous hater just spewing venom on anyone who speaks up in favor of something she didn't like. Maybe it's just that time of month... I don't know... but this kind of behavior & absolute demand that everyone think the way she does is not a very healthy way to live your life.

 

[FyrFytr998]

Really though Kennedy working for Lucas and Speilberg was essentially a facilitator wasnt she? they'd make artistic decisions or in Lucas case push certain kinds of technology and she would deal with the accounting/legalities/negotiations/etc.

Again I'm not sure how much you can put decisions like hiring Abrams down to her specifically but I think she represents the same kind of culture as Disney execs who would likely have played a part. Marvel and Pixar both have creatives higher up in the management structure and I suspect they have helped to resist Disney's worst instincts or they'd probably have then making nothing but sequels and spinoffs to Cars or Ironman sequels.

Hiring Abrams was I think really just a safe management decision, they looked at Trek and saw "this guy brought that franchise back to life, he's a safe pick to do the same for us and he can do it fast to start repaying those loans". What they didnt pay attention to was that Abrams style was pissing off the fanbase rapidly and really you get the worst aspects of the sequels introduced very quickly with TFA, both his Micheal Bay like "throw action/humour/nostalgia at peoples faces at 100 MPH" and his disrespect for the franchise. Rey as a Mary Sue like character defined by being better than the existing characters and a tendancy to erase the achievements seen in the franchise plot previously.

TFA being such a massive sucess due to the pent up nostalgia meant they bought even more deeply into the idea Abrams way was the correct way, I suspect had Rogue One not already been deep in production it probably would have been shifted in the same direction. The Luke hallway scene does seem like a bit of a tip of the hat to Vader at the end of that film to me, an acknowledgement its the way the franchise should have gone.

The problem with KK was that George worked her into the deal with the understanding she would adhere to his vision and not let Iger and Disney stray from the path he set the franchise on. Boy was he surprised when she went with her own vision for Star Wars, and the franchise paid for it.

There was one recent video by a YouTuber I like that discussed the story telling method of Star Wars. While I will never like Rian Johnson or TLJ, he makes some valid points about the way the sequel trilogy rolled out. Which leads me to believe that we wouldn't have like George Lucas directing these sequel movies any better had he gone with his plan. The old fan base is firmly entrenched with things that happened in non canon and want them to become canon. Probably why Favereau has had such a positive response with his Luke. We want fan service, not new wokeness.

 

[Joe_Armstrong]

I wonder how many young SW fans haven't seen Spaceballs

 

[FyrFytr998]

I wonder how many young SW fans haven't seen Spaceballs

Too many.

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

Artist (Kevin Cassidy) rendition of what Darth Jar Jar would look like.

 

[hohner]

Looks like predator crossed with a burn victim's scrotum. Nice work imo.

 

[Thrawn33]

Looks like predator crossed with a burn victim's scrotum. Nice work imo.

You turning tricks in the burn ward again?

 

[Mcountry]

Oh, look, some misguided ravenous hater jerk off wants to play the insult game with me.



Hmm... what to do...

Spring the Trap
​

I don't "defend" Star Wars. I speak my mind about it, & as it turns out, I do love The Last Jedi. I've seen it 3 times in the movie theaters & at least 3 or 4 more times in my home.

You're probably too fucking stupid to understand someone actually speaking truth instead of joining some Star Wars Hater cult because "Boo Fucking Hoo, they took my childhood hero & made him the same self defeating brat kid he was from the beginning. It was written straight into Yoda's own words in the OT when Obi ghost had a convo with him on Degobah.



I will give you "some" validity on "what the audience was wanting" (imo) as a pretense leading up to ep. 8.

For the sake of the minority of the fan base who didn't like it & became ravenous haters, perhaps Disney would've been better to take George Lucas' treatments of "A hermit Luke who is crushed by some prior traumatic event" & went with Super hero Luke all the way through. I would've enjoyed that too. of coarse then there'd be a bunch of jerk offs saying that was too predictable like they did in ep. 7 ffs...

Even I... as someone who now accepts that the same Luke:

• we saw being a whiney bitch at the start of Ep. 4
  
• & that gave up on degobah in ep. 5
  
• & that Yoda knew was too old to train because of all that shit in his psych....

... didn't expect him to dive back to those same tendencies. I went into The Last Jedi with dreams of him being beyond all that stuff & he would be a mega god like superhero with the force who was all those things our inner child wants in a Jung style hero complex.

However, that's not what we got. So what am I going to do, sit around for the next decade spitting venom at it on social media with all the other haters who stink this place up with their lack of appreciation for what I & many others consider a great story? No, I'm going to take a look at exactly what they showed me on screen & see if I vibe with what they did beyond my pretense of it.

As it turns out, it all ads up. It all makes sense, & don't look now, but Luke went out on his sword, giving his life to save the lives of the very people that took down Sid. So he still is a hero... all be it they just showed the human side of his heroism.

So I'm good. It took me about a week to get over my pretense & re-arrange my head about all that super hero speculation I had been doing for the last 2 years since ep. 7 dropped, but in the end, I think it's a fantastic movie & I'm full in on where they went with it.



What's obvious, (and canon btw) is that Lucas himself wrote Luke out to be that way before he even sold the company. That was the Luke he sold to Disney. So is George Lucas a "sjw crap defender too?" or do you think that maybe it's okay for people to have their own opinions despite the fact that the haters are just being louder & more annoying while declaring under some communistic viewpoint that everyone should think like them & "anyone who thinks different is wrong."

Look at you right now (next post) forcing your opinion on some nice person who just liked the movie. EVERYONE SHOULD THINK LIKE YOU!!!! Holey fook, you didn't like a movie so everyone else who did... is wrong? Even though you are the minority? GTFO & get a life you Commie piece of shit. You're allowed to have your opinion... but you cross a very dangerous line when you insist that other people are wrong for liking something you don't.

I hope you have more sense than this in your dealings irl or you're going to be in for a long sad road. It's hard to find an echo chamber irl so good luck with that attitude of insisting that everyone thinks like you.

fucking wall of text diatribe detailing how special your tastes are for wanting a unique Luke who milks cows and subverts expectations by going completely off of character to mope on an island for no particular reason what so ever.

all fans wanted was for him to pass the torch and go out as a hero like how ben did. that was it. this isn't rocket science or Shawshank Redemption. it's space opera with laser swords and wizards.

it's a fair tale.

know thy audience.

you are absolutely allowed to like that steamy pile of shit. and I'm absolutely allowed to tell you that your tastes suck.

 

[FyrFytr998]

Artist (Kevin Cassidy) rendition of what Darth Jar Jar would look like.

That looks dope, but Jar Jar's eyes were external from of the skull. Folks might have hated him less if he had normal eye sockets.

My favorite memes of the day....

 

[Aegon Spengler]

I’m a bit surprised they haven’t started to build a permanent cross-over-verse between the Marvel and Star Wars comics.

Have one of the million Spider Mans go through a portal and wind up in the sewers of coruscant! Work his way up. I dunno. I wanna see it Dana

 

[hohner]

You turning tricks in the burn ward again?

They've been through enough.

 

[FyrFytr998]

I’m a bit surprised they haven’t started to build a permanent cross-over-verse between the Marvel and Star Wars comics.

Have one of the million Spider Mans go through a portal and wind up in the sewers of coruscant! Work his way up. I dunno. I wanna see it Dana

It would be fatal to Disney to intermingle Marvel and Star Wars at this juncture. Marvel should just reboot the Space Knights and start from there.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

It would be fatal to Disney to intermingle Marvel and Star Wars at this juncture. Marvel should just reboot the Space Knights and start from there.

Just as a comic book! Lol at fatal. What do you mean "fatal"

I did like ROM as a kid too. I would be fine with ROM but it is a hard one to get right. Even harder than guardians. ROM is sad iirc, right? He's trying to get home or something?

 

[lifelessheap]

Oh, look, some misguided ravenous hater jerk off wants to play the insult game with me.



Hmm... what to do...

Spring the Trap
​

I don't "defend" Star Wars. I speak my mind about it, & as it turns out, I do love The Last Jedi. I've seen it 3 times in the movie theaters & at least 3 or 4 more times in my home.

You're probably too fucking stupid to understand someone actually speaking truth instead of joining some Star Wars Hater cult because "Boo Fucking Hoo, they took my childhood hero & made him the same self defeating brat kid he was from the beginning. It was written straight into Yoda's own words in the OT when Obi ghost had a convo with him on Degobah.



I will give you "some" validity on "what the audience was wanting" (imo) as a pretense leading up to ep. 8.

For the sake of the minority of the fan base who didn't like it & became ravenous haters, perhaps Disney would've been better to take George Lucas' treatments of "A hermit Luke who is crushed by some prior traumatic event" & went with Super hero Luke all the way through. I would've enjoyed that too. of coarse then there'd be a bunch of jerk offs saying that was too predictable like they did in ep. 7 ffs...

Even I... as someone who now accepts that the same Luke:

• we saw being a whiney bitch at the start of Ep. 4
  
• & that gave up on degobah in ep. 5
  
• & that Yoda knew was too old to train because of all that shit in his psych....

... didn't expect him to dive back to those same tendencies. I went into The Last Jedi with dreams of him being beyond all that stuff & he would be a mega god like superhero with the force who was all those things our inner child wants in a Jung style hero complex.

However, that's not what we got. So what am I going to do, sit around for the next decade spitting venom at it on social media with all the other haters who stink this place up with their lack of appreciation for what I & many others consider a great story? No, I'm going to take a look at exactly what they showed me on screen & see if I vibe with what they did beyond my pretense of it.

As it turns out, it all ads up. It all makes sense, & don't look now, but Luke went out on his sword, giving his life to save the lives of the very people that took down Sid. So he still is a hero... all be it they just showed the human side of his heroism.

So I'm good. It took me about a week to get over my pretense & re-arrange my head about all that super hero speculation I had been doing for the last 2 years since ep. 7 dropped, but in the end, I think it's a fantastic movie & I'm full in on where they went with it.



What's obvious, (and canon btw) is that Lucas himself wrote Luke out to be that way before he even sold the company. That was the Luke he sold to Disney. So is George Lucas a "sjw crap defender too?" or do you think that maybe it's okay for people to have their own opinions despite the fact that the haters are just being louder & more annoying while declaring under some communistic viewpoint that everyone should think like them & "anyone who thinks different is wrong."

Look at you right now (next post) forcing your opinion on some nice person who just liked the movie. EVERYONE SHOULD THINK LIKE YOU!!!! Holey fook, you didn't like a movie so everyone else who did... is wrong? Even though you are the minority? GTFO & get a life you Commie piece of shit. You're allowed to have your opinion... but you cross a very dangerous line when you insist that other people are wrong for liking something you don't.

I hope you have more sense than this in your dealings irl or you're going to be in for a long sad road. It's hard to find an echo chamber irl so good luck with that attitude of insisting that everyone thinks like you.

Lmao. TLJ is hot garbage by any measure. I KNOW you are trolling.

 

[FyrFytr998]

Just as a comic book! Lol at fatal. What do you mean "fatal"

I did like ROM as a kid too. I would be fine with ROM but it is a hard one to get right. Even harder than guardians. ROM is sad iirc, right? He's trying to get home or something?

Ahh, I thought you meant crossover films.

Depends on which comic you read. Marvel's and IDW's stories are both different. For Marvel, it wasn't too sad. He finally returned to human form and started a family before dying.

 

[Mcountry]

Artist (Kevin Cassidy) rendition of what Darth Jar Jar would look like.

that doesn't look anything like this.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

Ahh, I thought you meant crossover films.

Depends on which comic you read. Marvel's and IDW's stories are both different. For Marvel, it wasn't too sad. He finally returned to human form and started a family before dying.

Oh he did! Good for him. I'm happy to hear that. He deserved that happy ending.

Can't you just imagine Magneto on a Star Destroyer full of brotherhood mutants? Get like Salvador Larroca or Steve McNiven to draw it, would be dynamite.

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

that doesn't look anything like this.

That’s why it’s concept art my dude.