Star Wars Megathread

[Myrddin Wild]

The rancor keeper comes across a gutted Sarlacc, we don't know how it happened, we can guess, but until the actual "escape" is either on camera/paper or told by the man himself, we can only make educated guesses as to what actually happened.

We do know how the Sarlacc got gutted. It was by Jabba's barge. Here's that passage: "the mighty Sarlacc was injured. Burning wreckage from the sail barge had rained upon it."

I hear you, on the escape.... as they do everything BUT call Boba by name... but how fooked would that be for them to tell that story about the Jawas pillaging the Sarlacc shortly after it was injured... & then show that the Jawa's had the armor immediately afterward... if it wasn't the Jawas that pulled him out.

All this happened within a relatively short amount of time after Boba was knocked into the Sarlacc.

Nothing makes me believe that cowardly scavenger Jawa filth would risk cutting into the Sarlacc and risk their lives...unless it was already dead.

The Jawa's pillaging the Sarlacc while it was still alive is Canon. That means that it's an indisputable fact & so your belief has been trumped.

The next section verifies that the Sarlaac was still alive after Neil Young's "Roadeyes" pillaged it. I'll present the whole CANON passage together, but the last underlined part is what verifies it was still alive during the pillaging.

"He thought maybe to tame the glorious monstrosity at the bottom of the Great
Pit of Carkoon (and, failing that, to throw himself into its maw), but the mighty
Sarlacc was injured. Burning wreckage from the sail barge had rained upon it.
Already its body—considerably more massive than the mouth exposed from the
sliding sands—had been partially unburied, its stoma-tubes slit open, its
digesting innards pillaged by industrious Jawas. They pulled out weapons and
armor, droids and tools. And skeletons, of course.

The creature of Carkoon had a pure purpose, to wait and to eat, and now it
was left to thrash and wail in the grip of pillagers. Malakili wept at another life
without purpose."

So...how does the Sarlacc die, Leading to Bobas escape? That's what I want to know.

I'm not aware of a story that verifies it did die.

Folks into the lore don't need it, but you can bet your average casual is going to want to know how Boba when from screaming into the pit, to strutting around stalking Mando's and taking gaffi sticks.

I'll give you that. They probably need to spell it out, but it's kind of the way SW's does things to leave things for discussion. Look how much fun we're having tonight. They pretty much did already spell it out without actually naming him by name, but this is all pretty hidden information in a 5 year old book & so maybe they will. I'm just pointing out that they already did reveal how Boba got out.

I personally enjoyed his escape in the Tales from Jabbas Palace collection.

He used his exploding jetpack to distract the Sarlacc and made his way out.

I like this story too, but it's no more real than the Tab & Bink version. (which is also great imo.)

It was Boo Boo's girlfriend that fished him out of the Sarlacc using the hoist on her ship.

Prior to this though... Tab & Bink (2 training Jedi's) got one over on Boo Boo (as they call him) & stripped him of his armor... & it's actually Tab who got knocked into the Sarlacc pit... not Boo Boo Boba.

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[Thrawn33]

We do know how the Sarlacc got gutted. It was by Jabba's barge. Here's that passage: "the mighty Sarlacc was injured. Burning wreckage from the sail barge had rained upon it."

I hear you, on the escape.... as they do everything BUT call Boba by name... but how fooked would that be for them to tell that story about the Jawas pillaging the Sarlacc shortly after it was injured... & then show that the Jawa's had the armor immediately afterward... if it wasn't the Jawas that pulled him out.

All this happened within a relatively short amount of time after Boba was knocked into the Sarlacc.



The Jawa's pillaging the Sarlacc while it was still alive is Canon. That means that it's an indisputable fact & so your belief has been trumped.

The next section verifies that the Sarlaac was still alive after Neil Young's "Roadeyes" pillaged it. I'll present the whole CANON passage together, but the last underlined part is what verifies it was still alive during the pillaging.

"He thought maybe to tame the glorious monstrosity at the bottom of the Great
Pit of Carkoon (and, failing that, to throw himself into its maw), but the mighty
Sarlacc was injured. Burning wreckage from the sail barge had rained upon it.
Already its body—considerably more massive than the mouth exposed from the
sliding sands—had been partially unburied, its stoma-tubes slit open, its
digesting innards pillaged by industrious Jawas. They pulled out weapons and
armor, droids and tools. And skeletons, of course.

The creature of Carkoon had a pure purpose, to wait and to eat, and now it
was left to thrash and wail in the grip of pillagers. Malakili wept at another life
without purpose."



I'm not aware of a story that verifies it did die.



I'll give you that. They probably need to spell it out, but it's kind of the way SW's does things to leave things for discussion. Look how much fun we're having tonight. They pretty much did already spell it out without actually naming him by name, but this is all pretty hidden information in a 5 year old book & so maybe they will. I'm just pointing out that they already did reveal how Boba got out.



I like this story too, but it's no more real than the Tab & Bink version. (which is also great imo.)

It was Boo Boo's girlfriend that fished him out of the Sarlacc using the hoist on her ship.

Prior to this though... Tab & Bink (2 training Jedi's) got one over on Boo Boo (as they call him) & stripped him of his armor... & it's actually Tab who got knocked into the Sarlacc pit... not Boo Boo Boba.

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I can buy the Sail Barge explosion fucking it up leading to Fett's rescue, but feel that weakens Boba even more: dude already got "killed" by accident, now he's rescued due to more things outside his control.

I don't like it and I hope that's not the direction they go. Give a fan fav and the baddest bounty hunter alive some active part in his own survival.

Pulling a thermal detonator off the corpse of a weequay skiff guard that followed him in (or went in first) and detonating it while hiding under a pile of corpses in a last chance to escape is acceptable....

 

[GearSolidMetal]

 

[minute bull]

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Haha... I just noticed those are "TIG welding" gloves. I just bought 3 pair of them the other day, but now I'm regretting the purchase because mine weren't all white like Luke's.

 

[FyrFytr998]

Whoever made that statement is a blind fucking idiot.

 

[minute bull]

 

[FyrFytr998]

 

[FyrFytr998]

Kennedy really should send her story group over to Marvel, so Fiege's crew can show them the proper way to develop a character. In 3 hours and change, they have fleshed out Monica Rambeau's ascension into becoming a strong female superhero better than the 6 plus hours it took to make Rey a Jedi. And none of it felt forced.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

I feel like Rey's ascension is backed by 40 + yearz of movies showing how someone with that kind of force power behind her can excel extremely quick.

 

[Crash Lance]

LucasFilm & Disney is probably hoping within a short time fans will look back at the sequel trilogy with newfound respect, like now how many look at the prequels trilogy, and may bring back Rian with some kind of fanfare. But that isn't going to happen.

I can only hope that I live long enough to see the future that you said is (or isn't) going to happen.

I'm not making a Sherdog bet. However, if I was forced to make a Sherdog bet, I would say that Ep. VII, Ep. VIII, and Ep. IX will NEVER have fans that look back at them with "newfound respect" or "fanfare" or "nostalgia."

Nobody knows the future. Furthermore, anything is possible. However, Ep. VII, Ep. VIII, and Ep. IX won't become "better movies" from 2021-2051.

If anything, those three movies will become WORSE in the next 30 years because of the fact that many, MANY movies will release in the next 30 years.

 

[FyrFytr998]

I can only hope that I live long enough to see the future that you said is (or isn't) going to happen.

I'm not making a Sherdog bet. However, if I was forced to make a Sherdog bet, I would say that Ep. VII, Ep. VIII, and Ep. IX will NEVER have fans that look back at them with "newfound respect" or "fanfare" or "nostalgia."

Nobody knows the future. Furthermore, anything is possible. However, Ep. VII, Ep. VIII, and Ep. IX won't become "better movies" from 2021-2051.

If anything, those three movies will become WORSE in the next 30 years because of the fact that many, MANY movies will release in the next 30 years.

I agree. Wholeheartedly.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I can only hope that I live long enough to see the future that you said is (or isn't) going to happen.

I can assure you its not going to happen.
Fans have very long memories.

While George Lucas may have had some overdramatic fans complain about the overall quality of the prequels, we never felt outright betrayed.

But in recent years, we've felt betrayed a few times over. So yeah, we won't be forgetting it for a very long while and the sequel trilogy won't be having a sudden resurgence of popularity.

Evidence of this :

Kathleen Kennedy's Oscars / Feminism speech.

24,000 Views
72 Thumbs Up
6,000 Thumbs Down

No, they didn't forget a coma and a few zeroes at the end of that 72. Its only 72 thumbs up.

That's a hell of a ratio.
And that's how much the current LucasFilm President is absolutely hated and despised.
Kathleen Kennedy has destroyed her credibility amongst the fans several times over, and is beyond any chance at redemption in the eyes of formerly loyal consumers of the Star Wars franchise.

In order to ever reach the highs Star Wars once had, Disney must let the feminist die. Kill it if they have to.

 

[FyrFytr998]

I can assure you its not going to happen.
Fans have very long memories.

While George Lucas may have had some overdramatic fans complain about the overall quality of the prequels, we never felt outright betrayed.

But in recent years, we've felt betrayed a few times over. So yeah, we won't be forgetting it for a very long while and the sequel trilogy won't be having a sudden resurgence of popularity.

Evidence of this :

Kathleen Kennedy's Oscars / Feminism speech.

24,000 Views
72 Thumbs Up
6,000 Thumbs Down

No, they didn't forget a coma and a few zeroes at the end of that 72. Its only 72 thumbs up.

That's a hell of a ratio.
And that's how much the current LucasFilm President is absolutely hated and despised.
Kathleen Kennedy has destroyed her credibility amongst the fans several times over, and is beyond any chance at redemption in the eyes of formerly loyal consumers of the Star Wars franchise.

In order to ever reach the highs Star Wars once had, Disney must let the feminist die. Kill it if they have to.

Not to mention that it got so bad that the Oscars channel had to turn off the likes and comments on that video. But folks just started down voting the other videos before and after it
.

That will be the last time the Oscars have her in any video.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

That will be the last time the Oscars have her in any video.

Hopefully it'll be the the last time anyone will have her on video.

Hypocritical virtue-signaling is the absolute worst thing about celebrities and politicians.

 

[Thrawn33]

I can only hope that I live long enough to see the future that you said is (or isn't) going to happen.

I'm not making a Sherdog bet. However, if I was forced to make a Sherdog bet, I would say that Ep. VII, Ep. VIII, and Ep. IX will NEVER have fans that look back at them with "newfound respect" or "fanfare" or "nostalgia."

Nobody knows the future. Furthermore, anything is possible. However, Ep. VII, Ep. VIII, and Ep. IX won't become "better movies" from 2021-2051.

If anything, those three movies will become WORSE in the next 30 years because of the fact that many, MANY movies will release in the next 30 years.

ST was the best thing to happen to the PT in all honesty.

That said, Mando and Rogue 1 still shit all over the ST....

 

[Myrddin Wild]

I can only hope that I live long enough to see the future that you said is (or isn't) going to happen.

I'm not making a Sherdog bet. However, if I was forced to make a Sherdog bet, I would say that Ep. VII, Ep. VIII, and Ep. IX will NEVER have fans that look back at them with "newfound respect" or "fanfare" or "nostalgia."

Nobody knows the future. Furthermore, anything is possible. However, Ep. VII, Ep. VIII, and Ep. IX won't become "better movies" from 2021-2051.

If anything, those three movies will become WORSE in the next 30 years because of the fact that many, MANY movies will release in the next 30 years.

You're speaking about the "fans" that don't like it. I've seen each episode of the Sequels a minimum of 6 times & own them all... & they keep getting better for me. I'm in a PM chat with 5 other people who share this pov.

No need for anyone to carry on about all the thingz they didn't like it. I've heard it all... but I'd like to section out a few of the major gripes that I think will make the sequels age well for people.

1. Not my Luke
I think that the people most offended by the sequels are the OG's who grew up with Luke being a god like hero. It's straight out of Jung philosophy that people assign a "hero complex" that becomes a deep part of who they are. So when you make that hero a flawed & frustrated hermit... it fucks with thingz deep inside you.

It's like when you idolize your fun uncle as a kid because he's always dating hot chicks & he gave you your first beer, & let you shoot his uzi into a bail of hay... but then when you grow up & see that his shitty batchelor pad that you used to love is just a fooking slum & he's a fall down drunk leaching money of your dad... & NOW YOU!!!! It changes thingz in your internal make up.

There was a 40 year gap & lots of EU stories that made Luke god-like... & so when that illusion was shattered... there were many people who would not & will never accept it. Contrast that by the children growing up now with the entire triple trilogy already in place. They can go from the OT to the Sequels in a single marathon sitting & so won't be as tied to "not my Luke" & so it's my theory that the Sequels will gain more & more fanfare as the OG's pass away & are no longer here to spread their discontent about "not my Luke."

2. Sid's Resurrection
Ep. 9 contains within it everything we need to know to understand how Sid survived his first body's death. I will however digress that I wish they would've expanded on that a bit more in the movie. (incoming expansion within the next few Vader comics. Can't fooking wait!!!) As time goes by though, & that idea becomes more & more familiar... & the shock factor goes away... I think that part of the story will age well.

Especially if Canon stories are released that give the back story behind Sid's resurrection, it will not be the shock that it is now, but I don't even think we need that.

It wasn't a shock to me at all. It's pretty much straight out of the EU. The Plagueis novels are not Canon... but it prepared me for this. To me his resurrection was instantly like "Ah... there it is... the fucker pulled it off." I got chills during that opening scene where Kylo walks into the cloning facility & Sid's voice is echoing through the cave.

Those EU stories describe Plagueis & Sid working together on immortality as Plagueis' main thing & it became Sid's big thing too. This predates the prequels... so he's been working on this shit for a long time.

There's also the EU stories that show Sid was resurrected back into a clone body... so I don't know why it's so much of a shock... but my point being that this will age better than it was recieved as a shock to those OG's who have known Sid to be dead for 40 years of their lives. Contrast that to a now kid who takes the whole triple trilogy in for the first time across a weekend... it won't shock them as much. Would be even sweeter in the meantime if they make a Prequel Prequel movie of Sid & Plagueis working on this stuff... but I don't think that's even necessary. I feel like this major thing that bothers the OG's will eventually dissolve with time.

3. Continuity vs Pretense
I also feel like when the story is taken in as a whole all in one shot, that the continuity will be easier to see. I see a few people talking about how the sequels are all over the place & make no sense, but I don't see it that way at all. I feel like all the pieces fit together perfectly. I think for those people who say that... it's maybe because of them sitting around for years in between movies developing ideas & speculating about how it will go... & becoming sold into a coarse of events that didn't happen & so it's hard to let go of those ideas that had been rolling in their heads for years. The "Not My Luke" dynamic would be softened here as well.

To teh new generation taking in all 3 movies in one sitting there won't be so much of that dynamic. Snoke's death for example won't be such a shock to people who didn't sit around for 2 years in between Eps 7 & 8 speculating on who he was... & then another 2 years speculating on why he was killed when we thought he was the big bad. Once it's revealed that he was nothing more than a puppet that Sid was using, all that will make more sense & be easier to digest. Contrast 4 years of speculation for us... to a kid doing the Sequel marathon in one day & you can see a profound difference in how the 2 experiences are vastly different.

IMO ​

Obviously these opinions won't be shared by the half a dozen resistance folk in here daily, so lets just meet up in here every decade on the "Wolf Moon" & see how thingz progress.

 

[EvilDDS]

"Wolf Moon" ​

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I’m down to meet on the Wolf moon

Still get choked up with the Ezra/Kanan loth wolf scene

 

[Myrddin Wild]

I’m down to meet on the Wolf moon

Still get choked up with the Ezra/Kanan loth wolf scene

Chills were felt & tears were shed on my end as well brother~

 

[EvilDDS]

Chills were felt & tears were shed on my end as well my brother~

Speaking of Ezra, rumours are that they cast Mena Massoud, a Toronto boy, as Ezra

Only rumours though, so we’ll see