Star Wars Megathread

[Myrddin Wild]

Post the Lucas concept art or consider your concession accepted.

Ask me without being a dick & I'll consider it

Ok, I'm done with you.

Not even going to bother reading the rest of your post.

Well that's all you can do is claim you didn't read my reply if you're not willing to admit I proved you wrong. You should probably stop pushing the issue with the Lucas concept art because you will once again be proven wrong when I show you that everything I said is a fact.

You'll probably come back with you didn't have time to read it or something... lol....

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Ask me without being a dick & I'll consider it

No.

If you have a point to make then you should post it.

And just having pics of Luke meditating like this pic doesn't mean Lucas intended him to be a hermit & coward.

In fact, according to recent headlines, that wasn't Lucas's intentions at all.

https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2020...y-plans-including-darth-maul-and-darth-talon/

"As for how things would have ultimately turned out, Lucas added that: “By the end of the trilogy Luke would have rebuilt much of the Jedi, and we would have the renewal of the New Republic, with Leia, Senator Organa, becoming the Supreme Chancellor in charge of everything. So she ended up being the Chosen One.”

Yeah, seems like it was totally Lucas's plan to turn Luke into a cowardly hermit that abandoned his friends, family, and entire galaxy so he could selfishly die on a island.

And if that's the super-secret concept art you were referring to its been publicly known for years.

 

[FyrFytr998]

@GearSolidMetal why bother? It was a shitty trilogy, and the only one of the three trilogies to make less money with each subsequent release. These Stans are happy with moral and social victories.

F&F gave us “the real Luke” and KK never saw it coming. The Luke that people were looking for.......

We know for a fact who would win in a poll of Mando Luke vs. TLJ Luke. That’s all that matters to me.

 

[Loiosh]

@GearSolidMetal why bother? It was a shitty trilogy, and the only one of the three trilogies to make less money with each subsequent release. These Stans are happy with moral and social victories.

F&F gave us “the real Luke” and KK never saw it coming. The Luke that people were looking for....... View attachment 826554

We know for a fact who would win in a poll of Mando Luke vs. TLJ Luke. That’s all that matters to me.

You know, I rarely think about the new trilogy because it was so bad, the second and third films in any case. In retrospect the first film gets worse when you realize Rey's a cardboard cut out and nobody else matters.

Now that The Mandalorian has woken that part of me that still gives a fuck, there's one thing I can't stop thinking.

The final trilogy doesn't fit. It's a square narrative trying to wedge itself into a round hole.

The first trilogy is about Luke. The second trilogy is about his father. The third trilogy is about... Palpatine's granddaughter?

I think Johnson said he made a point of discarding the Luke mythology so we'd be invested in his new caricatures, I mean characters.

Why make a new story when you're putting a cap on one of the most popular stories ever put to film? When the actors from that story are not only available but in your damned movie?

I know I'm probably the ten millionth person to say all these things but I never really considered this before. Apart from being terrible films, they made no narrative sense.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

No.

If you have a point to make then you should post it.

And just having pics of Luke meditating like this pic doesn't mean Lucas intended him to be a hermit & coward.

In fact, according to recent headlines, that wasn't Lucas's intentions at all.

https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2020...y-plans-including-darth-maul-and-darth-talon/

"As for how things would have ultimately turned out, Lucas added that: “By the end of the trilogy Luke would have rebuilt much of the Jedi, and we would have the renewal of the New Republic, with Leia, Senator Organa, becoming the Supreme Chancellor in charge of everything. So she ended up being the Chosen One.”

Yeah, seems like it was totally Lucas's plan to turn Luke into a cowardly hermit that abandoned his friends, family, and entire galaxy so he could selfishly die on a island.

And if that's the super-secret concept art you were referring to its been publicly known for years.

You really should drop this thing where you doubt everything I say. How did you even get to that place anyway? I've been dropping legit info into Star Wars threads ever since I've been on this forum. Now all of a sudden here comes your smart ass trying to make it out like everything I say is bullshit.

Look at you arguing with me about things I didn't say... & pictures that I didn't post you.

Let me ask you this... If I show you proof that George Lucas' final vision for Luke before handing the reigns over to Disney was that Luke be a secluded & self indulged hermit... will you admit that you were wrong & that I might know wtf I'm talking about?

I mean it's pretty telling for me to give you 100% solid proof that the haters are the minority, & you just twist it with not even sound logic. So I'm not even sure you're for real. You really seem like you're making stuff up as you go. What did you do, look that shit up just now that you just posted? you didn't even know that George's version of Luke changed through development. It looks to me like you found some shit on google & then triumphantly came in here to rub it in my face before studying further.

You probably didn't know that as of 2008 Lucas considered the first 6 movies the final story... though he did muse at the idea of having the older characters back, he had no serious plans to do it nor a storyline. During the filming of the original trilogy, he talked to Mark about 12 movies... but somewhere along the line he started mentioning that the 6 were conclusive & he hadn't even thought about a sequel trilogy. (till 2008)

Okay... so what's it going to be if I show you George's final vision before turning it over was a kurtz type of character? & try to be nice while you're at it.

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

Imagine thinking people waited decades to see Luke sitting around like some noob.


No long time fans like Lukes portrayal in the sequel trilogy.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

You really should drop this thing where you doubt everything I say.

As this point I take your word as seriously as I do Kathleen Kennedy's.

Let me ask you this... If I show you proof that George Lucas' final vision for Luke before handing the reigns over to Disney was that Luke be a secluded & self indulged hermit... will you admit that you were wrong & that I might know wtf I'm talking about?

I would have a dozen post ago, but you acted self-indulgent by demanding me to beg you to post it.

So post it, like I've challenged you to post it since you mentioned it.

I mean it's pretty telling for me to give you 100% solid proof that the haters are the minority, & you just twist it with not even sound logic. So I'm not even sure you're for real.

'Solid proof' isn't what you posted, just results from a poll of Sherdoggers who've seen the movie in theaters once. How many of them are true fans of Star Wars, and how many just go to see every big blockbuster with a large marketing budget?

In that case, I'm not surprised that the majority of the movie-going public was mostly satisfied with the sequel trilogy because they're mostly satisfied with most CGI-shitfests because they just want the typical fantasy/scifi bullshit with space wizards and big battles over a superweapon that could destroy entire planets... again... and again... and again.

So I'm not even sure you're for real. You really seem like you're making stuff up as you go. What did you do, look that shit up just now that you just posted? you didn't even know that George's version of Luke changed through development. It looks to me like you found some shit on google & then triumphantly came in here to rub it in my face before studying further.

That's not uncommon for a filmmaker to make changes to a character based on concept art, so while I didn't know that its not a surprise to me whatsoever. But that fact doesn't equal proof that Lucas had Luke be a cowardly hermit at any point during pre-production, and even if he did perhaps it was an idea he was kicking around for Luke to be defeated, down on his luck, and needed some motivation to come back... like what was promised at the end of Ep7 that Ep8 failed to deliver.

Post your proof that Lucas intended for Luke to be a cowardly hermit.

You probably didn't know that as of 2008 Lucas considered the first 6 movies the final story...

Literally everybody knew that.

When asked after Ep3 was released about more Star Wars movies he said "I'm not going to spend the last 10 years of my life making Star Wars." And "There is no Episode 7."

Okay... so what's it going to be if I show you George's final vision before turning it over was a kurtz type of character? & try to be nice while you're at it.

You're hyping this up as a giant reveal, but I bet the reality will be just as boring as your attempts to hype it.

 

[Batjester]

Will you two get a room and screw already.

 

[minute bull]

No long time fans like Lukes portrayal in the sequel trilogy.

Sit down and be quiet.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

'Solid proof' isn't what you posted, just results from a poll of Sherdoggers who've seen the movie in theaters once. How many of them are true fans of Star Wars, and how many just go to see every big blockbuster with a large marketing budget?

In that case, I'm not surprised that the majority of the movie-going public was mostly satisfied with the sequel trilogy because they're mostly satisfied with most CGI-shitfests because they just want the typical fantasy/scifi bullshit with space wizards and big battles over a superweapon that could destroy entire planets... again... and again... and again.

I literally told you "EVEN SHERDOG'S OWN POLL SHOWS THAT THE HATERS ARE IN THE MINORITY."

That's exactly how that convo got started. You called bullshit, & so I showed you the sherdog polls just like you called me out on. Now that I've done that you're skating around it & twisting it. Do you see how you're posturing & then changing things after I show you proof? Where was this pov before I showed you proof?

As this point I take your word as seriously as I do Kathleen Kennedy's.

Very disrespectful considering the things you said about KK... & now you want me to help you? That's twisted man.

I would have a dozen post ago, but you acted self-indulgent by demanding me to beg you to post it.

So post it, like I've challenged you to post it since you mentioned it.

You were "demanding it" & being very rude & insulting me. I simply asked you to come down off that shit & ask nicely.

You don't fucking ask someone to do you a favor while you're making them out to be an asshole.

You're hyping this up as a giant reveal, but I bet the reality will be just as boring as your attempts to hype it.

What giant reveal? It's just a fact... but I'm not telling you a fucking thing with all these insults until you ask nicely & say please. If that's too much for you then fuck off.

Oh it's real. It was the final version before Lucas handed it over, literally at the end of 2012 when he signed the company over.... & guided the design team in mid Jan 2013. After all these degrading shots you're taking at me, I have no interest in helping you. Though I did bury a clue in our conversation that would guide your own searches if you weren't so self indulged to overlook the things I say.
so fuck you. Find it yourself.

Post your proof that Lucas intended for Luke to be a cowardly hermit.

I'm not taking orders from you like some insubordinate employee.
I can show you not only articles... but canon references of what I'm saying... but then you keep running your dick sucker & insulting me so fuck you. Find it yourself.

With Love

Your buddeh
Wildo

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

Sit down and be quiet.

present and accounted for!

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Giving season 1 of Mando a rewatch before starting off on the second season and really what does stand is just how good it looks.

I do think thats always been an aspect of Starwars thats been rather underestimated for some reason, the original films and Rogue One what really stands out is that these are very stylish bits of cinema.

Both the prequels and the sequels I think really fail to live up to that, they have their moments I spose(less so Abrams though) but they fail to consistently create an effective atmosphere.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Will you two get a room and screw already.

Oh our convo with my new pet troll @GearSolidMetal needs to be stopped but you're fine with the haters constantly stinking this place up with their bullshit daily?

You've been so twisted to the dark side that you can't even recognize a beacon of light trying to shine through

 

[Thrawn33]

Anyway.....

You guys ever see the Crimson Empire series.

Probably one of my favorites

A former Royal Guardsman is hunted by traitorous Imperials and Rebels...

 

[Batjester]

Oh our convo with my new pet troll @GearSolidMetal needs to be stopped but you're fine with the haters constantly stinking this place up with their bullshit daily?

You've been so twisted to the dark side that you can't even recognize a beacon of light trying to shine through

I'm an adult and can accept people might have a different opinion than me. Fandom is great, but you have to have a thick skin and some common sense too.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

I'm an adult and can accept people might have a different opinion than me. Fandom is great, but you have to have a thick skin and some common sense too.

Dear Adult,

Just as you have the right to tell me & my pet troll we need a room, I have a right to take your criticism & call you out on it. So if you had "tough skin" as you say... you would've given me a clever retort instead of getting serious & giving me a fucking lecture. Oh, I see... you're an adult though... so your lectures are hypocritical & don't apply to you. Is that how it works?

I asked you a question that you didn't answer btw.

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

Sit down and be quiet.

Hey it’s true. That was noob stuff.

 

[Batjester]

Dear Adult,

Just as you have the right to tell me & my pet troll we need a room, I have a right to take your criticism & call you out on it. So if you had "tough skin" as you say... you would've given me a clever retort instead of a fucking lecture. Oh, I see... you're an adult though... so your lectures are hypocritical & don't apply to you. Is that how it works?

I asked you a question that you didn't answer btw.

To answer your question, which seemed rather rhetorical, don't care.


My "clever response" was telling you two to get a room which began your meltdown.


Have fun with your circle jerk nerdling.

 

[minute bull]

Hey it’s true. That was noob stuff.

Yeah no.

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

Yeah no.

Yeah it was horrible noob stuff in fact. No long time fans like that shit. I’ve never spoken to one Person that liked it in real life either.