Star Wars Megathread

[FyrFytr998]

seasons been pretty damn meh too

Those Boba/Mando episodes would prop this season up quite nicely since they were Boba's saving grace.

Either way, I'm all in. I eagerly await the Mandalorian Civil War.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

The re-taking of Mandalor is such a big event, that I would love for teh big finale to be a full length motion picture for teh theater. That would be sweet~! I mean... we gotta see teh fooking Mythosaur on teh big screen yeah?

They spoke of a big integration of several series' (Mando, Ahsoka & Boba... maybe others?) Showing Zeb in teh last ep. pretty much tellz us we'll be seeing Ezra & teh gang in teh mix too. How about a live action Omega rockin' it wit brother Boba? Teh Bad Batch would be old AF by now, (aging at double speed) but I'll take it.

Plus they're fooking around with cloning so much that you know Ian's gotta make some kind of showing at some point. I mean, dude's pushing 80 yrs old... lets get him back on screen while we still can~

 

[Thrawn33]

The re-taking of Mandalor is such a big event, that I would love for teh big finale to be a full length motion picture for teh theater. That would be sweet~! I mean... we gotta see teh fooking Mythosaur on teh big screen yeah?

They spoke of a big integration of several series' (Mando, Ahsoka & Boba... maybe others?) Showing Zeb in teh last ep. pretty much tellz us we'll be seeing Ezra & teh gang in teh mix too. How about a live action Omega rockin' it wit brother Boba? Teh Bad Batch would be old AF by now, (aging at double speed) but I'll take it.

Plus they're fooking around with cloning so much that you know Ian's gotta make some kind of showing at some point. I mean, dude's pushing 80 yrs old... lets get him back on screen while we still can~

As I said before, Thrawn needs to be the Thanos-level Big Bad that unites all of these different series.

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

As I said before, Thrawn needs to be the Thanos-level Big Bad that unites all of these different series.

How so after Ezra bitch smacked him and his fleet then kidnapped him into the unknown regions..?


He’s basically a prisoner of a powerful force user at this point. Not sure how Thrawn is going to get out of that unless it’s completely re-written

 

[Thrawn33]

How so after Ezra bitch smacked him and his fleet then kidnapped him into the unknown regions..?


He’s basically a prisoner of a powerful force user at this point. Not sure how Thrawn is going to get out of that unless it’s completely re-written

Because he's Thrawn and he'll figure a way out of it. Ezra is probably working for him now....

 

[tomjones]

Star Wars "the woke universe".

Thanks Disney.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

As I said before, Thrawn needs to be the Thanos-level Big Bad that unites all of these different series.

Ah yes, I'm glad you brought this oop. I've been meaning to discuss his potential status as "Anti-hero"... or straight up "double agent."

For sure, Thrawn would make for a perfect "Big Bad" vs teh Mando'z & alliez... but what's teh point? The Empire is dis-empowered already. I've alwayz felt like he would double cross the empire at a crutial moment anyway.

Though teh Chiss had conflicting government at timez, they just want to be left alone to do what they do. They regretted expanding their reach into teh Jedi/Sith warz 1,000 yearz ago... & only just recently expanded their reach beyond their boarders "to detect a potential threat." Their objective is not dominance of others... but sovereignty within themselves, and I think that's Thrawn's end game dispite any local turmoil within his own people's bureaucracy.

iow... Thrawn's not with the Empire because he thinks the Empire is his end game. That said, he could use his position to head the empire & then double cross them at a key moment. The Chiss had a mandate "not to strike first." They don't want to be involved. They just "scouted" the Empire because they saw the threat. This seems like a perfect opportunity to lead the remnants of the empire into a war they can't win & then pull the plug & split.

On a more personal level... the Chiss deal in "respect" above all else... and so align with those capable of keeping their promises. That's at "religious levelz" for teh Chiss.

I find it obvious that Thrawn's long time dealingz wit teh Empire have offered him enough examplez to question if the empire would break their promisez & try to take over teh Chiss community. (spoiler: "of coarse they would") That's obviously the highest order of disrespect... which goes against teh long-standing Chiss religion... their way of life etc... etc... etc... It goes against every single thing teh Chiss have developed for as long as public record can recognize, and seemingly against what Thrawn himself strives for. He went in for intell to see if teh Empire would leave them be... but he would almost have to be BY DEFINITION... "anti-empire" at this point in time, yeah?


I'm just throwing out there that Thrawn'z sabbatical with Ezra might show him a more dedicated allegiance that is more worthy of teh Chiss beliefs.

PEOPLE OF HONOR... like teh Mando's who share teh Chiss belief of honor & keeping your word would be his most suitable allies. in teh Mando'z. The mando'z once rooled over 1,000 planets, and are in a major hyperspace lane... so I'm sure teh Chiss are well aware of them.

So the re-taking of Mandalore could come down to one simple command from Thrawn which is designed to fail the empire from the inside, and now he's got permanent & trustworthy honorable allies for life in teh Mando'z. Big hugz all around yeah? Just don't remove your fooking helmet.

By the current timeline... the Empire is gone & Sid dis-empowered, so I don't see why Thrawn would be pro-empire. It serves no purpose.

Maybe Thrawn has his own agenda, but he seemz like a good guy to me at heart just out to protect his own people & do what's best for his civilization. It was only a matter of time before the Empire started infringing on the Chiss too, and so that was Thrawn's original objective in joining them.

There is no allegiance to the Chiss outside of Chiss Sovereignty. They will fight only to dissolve a threat to their sovereignty. Thrawn could effectively just go home & see how it all shakes out at this point... lol...

 

[Thrawn33]

Ah yes, I'm glad you brought this oop. I've been meaning to discuss his potential status as "Anti-hero"... or straight up "double agent."

For sure, Thrawn would make for a perfect "Big Bad" vs teh Mando'z & alliez... but what's teh point? The Empire is dis-empowered already. I've alwayz felt like he would double cross the empire at a crutial moment anyway.

Though teh Chiss had conflicting government at timez, they just want to be left alone to do what they do. They regretted expanding their reach into teh Jedi/Sith warz 1,000 yearz ago... & only just recently expanded their reach beyond their boarders "to detect a potential threat." Their objective is not dominance of others... but sovereignty within themselves, and I think that's Thrawn's end game dispite any local turmoil within his own people's bureaucracy.

iow... Thrawn's not with the Empire because he thinks the Empire is his end game. That said, he could use his position to head the empire & then double cross them at a key moment. The Chiss had a mandate "not to strike first." They don't want to be involved. They just "scouted" the Empire because they saw the threat. This seems like a perfect opportunity to lead the remnants of the empire into a war they can't win & then pull the plug & split.

On a more personal level... the Chiss deal in "respect" above all else... and so align with those capable of keeping their promises. That's at "religious levelz" for teh Chiss.

I find it obvious that Thrawn's long time dealingz wit teh Empire have offered him enough examplez to question if the empire would break their promisez & try to take over teh Chiss community. (spoiler: "of coarse they would") That's obviously the highest order of disrespect... which goes against teh long-standing Chiss religion... their way of life etc... etc... etc... It goes against every single thing teh Chiss have developed for as long as public record can recognize, and seemingly against what Thrawn himself strives for. He went in for intell to see if teh Empire would leave them be... but he would almost have to be BY DEFINITION... "anti-empire" at this point in time, yeah?


I'm just throwing out there that Thrawn'z sabbatical with Ezra might show him a more dedicated allegiance that is more worthy of teh Chiss beliefs.

PEOPLE OF HONOR... like teh Mando's who share teh Chiss belief of honor & keeping your word would be his most suitable allies. in teh Mando'z. The mando'z once rooled over 1,000 planets, and are in a major hyperspace lane... so I'm sure teh Chiss are well aware of them.

So the re-taking of Mandalore could come down to one simple command from Thrawn which is designed to fail the empire from the inside, and now he's got permanent & trustworthy honorable allies for life in teh Mando'z. Big hugz all around yeah? Just don't remove your fooking helmet.

By the current timeline... the Empire is gone & Sid dis-empowered, so I don't see why Thrawn would be pro-empire. It serves no purpose.

Maybe Thrawn has his own agenda, but he seemz like a good guy to me at heart just out to protect his own people & do what's best for his civilization. It was only a matter of time before the Empire started infringing on the Chiss too, and so that was Thrawn's original objective in joining them.

There is no allegiance to the Chiss outside of Chiss Sovereignty. They will fight only to dissolve a threat to their sovereignty. Thrawn could effectively just go home & see how it all shakes out at this point... lol...

In EU Thrawn was Pro-Empire because they were the best able to deal with the coming Extragalactic threat. He didn't hate the New Republic, but he didn't see them overcoming their partisanship to fight the next threat (Legends tell us that it was the Vong) and we the readers were proven right in the New Jedi Order novels where the Republic fucks up the invasion 9 ways till Sunday, until they start doing Empire type shit.

Long story short: Cannon and Legends Thrawn shown him to just want peace and order throughout the galaxy, albeit at some morally questionable costs. He is portrayed as an Antihero post EU/OG Thrawn Trilogy, and is to a lesser extent very Thanos like.

To tie into the show, an emissary of Thrawn approaching the next ruler of Mandalore would be a sick post credit scene.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

In EU Thrawn was Pro-Empire because they were the best able to deal with the coming Extragalactic threat. He didn't hate the New Republic, but he didn't see them overcoming their partisanship to fight the next threat (Legends tell us that it was the Vong) and we the readers were proven right in the New Jedi Order novels where the Republic fucks up the invasion 9 ways till Sunday, until they start doing Empire type shit.

Long story short: Cannon and Legends Thrawn shown him to just want peace and order throughout the galaxy, albeit at some morally questionable costs. He is portrayed as an Antihero post EU/OG Thrawn Trilogy, and is to a lesser extent very Thanos like.

To tie into the show, an emissary of Thrawn approaching the next ruler of Mandalore would be a sick post credit scene.

Fook yeah

Current Canon doesn't sway too much from teh general EU narrative you outlined here. Thrawn & teh Chiss saw teh Republic as weak & teh Empire as a threat... & so they sent their operative in who did their bidding long enough to get in power. Now when he come'z back, he might just be one of teh highest ranking officialz in the Empire in Sid'z absence.

We're on teh same page wit Thrawn in that he'z actually a good guy. A very tactical good guy that haz to fook some shit up to get there, but that would be teh goodest of guys to compromise his own values for teh greater good.

I think your post-credit scene is a no brainer & haz to be dun.

Mandalore risez to its previous glory in concert wit teh chiss, while allowing teh Chiss to keep their distance & sovereignty. I fookin' love it!!!

Meanwhile teh senate & Hottie Skywalker'z Jedi do whatever they're doing while hopefully learning from teh past... & we see how thingz shake out.

Fast forward about 500 yearz & make teh new trilogy yeah?

 

[Crawler89]

Hes coming in Ashoka.

I do think hell be the big bad that unites the shows that theyve been talking about.

But Giddeon has me wondering if Giddeon ties in with the creation of Snoke, Snokes first test is beating the mando etc

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Hes coming in Ashoka.

I do think hell be the big bad that unites the shows that theyve been talking about.

But Giddeon has me wondering if Giddeon ties in with the creation of Snoke, Snokes first test is beating the mando etc

I waz almost seeing Giddeon as a past thing until he got busted out of prison... but cloning Snoke waz clearly his objective.

After all teh backlash Snoke got for being "un-explained" in teh sequelz... It would be nice to see some bad ass full cinema quality explanationz incoming.

I hesitated to say that I want Snoke to be teh big bad in teh re-taking of mandalore... just because I'm aware of teh backlash that statement would generate... but it would not only be a sweet retcon to explain him (which the series has already spent a ton of time on) but to show what a real bad ass he is on film. I mean teh novels show it pretty clearly how he just showed up cock in hand & let everyone know that he was now in charge... but we haven't seen that on film yet. I would love to see it.

then with Thrawn as his right hand man over-throwing him would explain why we didn't see Thrawn in teh Sequelz.

I love this hole fooking arc

 

[GSP_37]

Someone pointed out the intro clips that show various helmeted heads or droid heads started omitting Kylo Ren head and heads of anyone else from the sequel trilogies. Something has to be up or they wouldn't incur costs to change that.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

I'd be coming in Ahsoka too.

 

[Crawler89]

Someone pointed out the intro clips that show various helmeted heads or droid heads started omitting Kylo Ren head and heads of anyone else from the sequel trilogies. Something has to be up or they wouldn't incur costs to change that.

interesting. Never noticed, because I just figured it was the Star Wars banner like Marvel and Dc's

 

[Hog-train]

I don't understand why the new season of the Mandalorian is doing so bad. I personally have enjoyed the season so far and liking the new potential things that are being built up - such as the resurrection of the Mandalorians as a force.

 

[Hog-train]

We've seen Disney fuck up Boba Fett's sequel series (though some of it was OK), but Mandalorian and Andor shows they can get it right. Something of that quality showcasing Dooku's struggle with Jedi hypocrisy, conflicted galaxy under the Senate, etc. would add greatly to SW lore. We all know there was a lot more to it than Padme and fucking Jar Jar nominating Palpatine as Chancellor and then Palps riding the night train to Emperor.

Apparently Kathleen Kennedy was part of the Boba Fett series fuck ups. That series was under her and since it was doing so bad, they decided to take some of the Mandalorian storyline and shoehorn it in the Fett series. Those stupid LGBTQ underlings on those fruity bikes were also her doing (to sell potential toys).

In addition, the decision to have Grogu come back to Djin Djarin was also Kennedy's doing. Originally Grogu was supposed to finish Jedi training under Luke but Kennedy went behind Filoni and Favreau's back to the marketing department (she couldn't directly interfere) and got them to order Grogu back. Arguing Grogu toys would be good for business.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2023...thleen-kennedys-allegedly-incessant-meddling/

 

[ChickenBrother]

I don't understand why the new season of the Mandalorian is doing so bad. I personally have enjoyed the season so far and liking the new potential things that are being built up - such as the resurrection of the Mandalorians as a force.

I feel like they're still running with the plot lines they already had going - Mando aligning with Bo Katan and working to unite the other Mandos, remnants of the Empire still brewing and working to resurrect cloning tech, and all of that is still good.

But I feel like the production value is lower and they've ramped up the cheese factor - it feels more like BOBF than the first two seasons of Mandalorian.

Apparently Kathleen Kennedy was part of the Boba Fett series fuck ups. That series was under her and since it was doing so bad, they decided to take some of the Mandalorian storyline and shoehorn it in the Fett series. Those stupid LGBTQ underlings on those fruity bikes were also her doing (to sell potential toys).

In addition, the decision to have Grogu come back to Djin Djarin was also Kennedy's doing. Originally Grogu was supposed to finish Jedi training under Luke but Kennedy went behind Filoni and Favreau's back to the marketing department (she couldn't directly interfere) and git them to order Grogu back. Arguing Grogu toys would be good for business.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2023...thleen-kennedys-allegedly-incessant-meddling/

That makes sense. The two episodes devoted to Mando were by far the best part of BOBF, but they felt out of place and a little WTF. They were probably originally intended as the first two episodes of Mando S3, and that's why they had to add the low budget pirate crap as filler to make up the airtime.

Grogu going away to train with Luke was a perfect season end for S2 and they should have left it at that. But I get where they're coming from. Disney is a commercial business after all. Even though we're shitting on BOBF it was a commercial success and did better numbers than Andor. And Baby Yoda is a cash cow they're understandably trying to milk for all he's worth.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Hes coming in Ashoka.

I do think hell be the big bad that unites the shows that theyve been talking about.

But Giddeon has me wondering if Giddeon ties in with the creation of Snoke, Snokes first test is beating the mando etc

God I hope not.

Would just be depressing if we have so many more talented people who care about the franchise working to prop up the nonsense Abrams jotted on the back of a napkin.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

I found a really interesting breakdown of how these shows could all come together. I've been vibing with the Screen Crush guy lately, and he & his manager (the little dog) did not disappoint on this breakdown. (Note: was done 2 weeks ago before we recognized that Zeb will be in teh Rangers series.) Big shout for suggesting Mara Jade rocking up!



His take on teh Chiss being the big bad to over-throw the Republic doesn't work for me, as that's never been their style. They don't want anything to do with Galaxy wide rool. They just want to be left alone, and so they would strive to "DEVELOP" the republic... not fight against it... because the Republic wouldn't be likely to infringe on them. Which is what they want.

That's a big weight off teh Chiss for the republic to handle all that while the Chiss get the sovereignty they want.

The Empire however, is so overly invasive that it's easy to see why they'd go to war against a weakened Empire... & they have one of their own currently in one of teh highest positionz in Sid'z absence. So imo... any Chiss envolvement that seemz to be against the Republic... is a facade. Thrawn may very well come back & "appear" to be on teh side of the Empire, but no way that's his end game. Double crossing teh empire is his likely end game.

How cool would it be if Thrawn & Ezra have been kicking it wit teh Chiss teh hole time!

 

[Crawler89]

God I hope not.

Would just be depressing if we have so many more talented people who care about the franchise working to prop up the nonsense Abrams jotted on the back of a napkin.

Already have been. We've seen the snoke body fuck ups in tanks.