Movies Star Wars: Episode X - A New Beginning

[Aegon Spengler]

Can we just fuck off with anything Skywalker related please?

Hell, I'm pretty tired of Jedi and Sith if I'm being honest.

They could have the galaxy break into separate little groups and have a real “Star Wars” with more than just two sides if they wanted. The Republic is basically gone and there’s no empire. Power vacuum could be interesting…

 

[GSP_37]

I'm cool if they chose not to re-use Rey, Finn, Poe and just make something new as if sequel trilogy should never be mentioned again.

 

[greygoose]

If they just decided to stick to animated shows/movies in the vein of Clone Wars/Bad Batch, I think the majority of folks would be happy.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

Is the plot going to be that the empire is bad and the renegades have to fight them?












Of course it is.

 

[Other]

 

[deviake]

 

[GSP_37]

The "X" should be in reference to full frontal nudity and sexual relations. Change things up in the Star Wars world.

 

[PeterGriffin]

Still not believing this is happening until its confirmed to be filming.

Kathleen Kennedy has announced half a dozen Star Wars films were being made in the last 4.5 years and they've all either been cancelled or still in pre-production and should be considered 'about to be cancelled.'

So, she is right on track to hit that mark for churning out bomb after bomb. It's all about consistency.

Can we just fuck off with anything Skywalker related please?

Hell, I'm pretty tired of Jedi and Sith if I'm being honest.

True story.

They could have the galaxy break into separate little groups and have a real “Star Wars” with more than just two sides if they wanted. The Republic is basically gone and there’s no empire. Power vacuum could be interesting…

intrigued. Go on.

The "X" should be in reference to full frontal nudity and sexual relations. Change things up in the Star Wars world.

Also still intrigued... go on.

 

[SummerStriker]

Wood watch if Rey grows a penis in the new trilogy

I see your schwarts are as big as mine.

 

[PeterGriffin]

LIke @Batjester said, can we just fuck off withe Skywalker/Jedi/Sith shit? I have felt like that for a long time.

Probably in the minority here, but whatever, to each his own, but Rogue One has been my favourite Star Wars movie yet (yes, this includes the original trilogy). More like a space heist. Had just enough of a hint of Force/Sith to be cool, but not take away from the main point of the film. Maybe the appeal of something Star Wars standalone-ish drew me in, or that it seemed darker in fare than normal, but Gareth Edwards did a damn fine job. And it also seems like an aberration as well, and most of the Disney Star Wars stuff has been very fucking meh.

With Disney's current track record of throwing shit at a wall and hoping it sticks (when it comes to their staple franchises), I am not even sure a new movie is even the way to go forward for them. Every movie besides the original trilogy has been met with more and more criticism than praise and gets nitpicked to death, but often for very good reason.

Not many of their SW TV outings have been stellar either. Most of the Star Wars series have been, or could have been, one and done seasons. To me, it just seemed like Disney was duplicating what Marvel was doing with their series and characters etc, with similar success rates at that.

I would like a harder hitting SW series, something like a Star Wars/Sopranos/John Wick hybrid almost. Set in the SW universe but focus on the underbelly and seedy side, less on the good guy underdog-rising hero(es) trope. Set up Guilds at something like the Continental for the bounty hunters, smugglers, etc. No PG-13 shit, even gives you a chance to slide in plenty of well-known characters as cameos or recurring character roles (like Mandalorian, Lando, Solo, Fett, Kenobi, Andor etc). Thread story arcs without having to do whole mediorce seasonal productions based around the character.

I am no crazy SW mega-nerd. Haven't read all of the books, comics, studied all the fact sheets etc... don't have time or the interest. Too old I guess. But I am tired of the good-guy heroic crap all the time. Let's take the kid gloves off, give us something SW, but a little edgier. What entertained us when we were kids, is not going to cut it now that we are all old fuckers. Star Wars was pretty cool and mind-blowing as a kid, and Disney needs to step it up and bring their A-game.

PS. If Vader is PG-13, Disney can go fuck themselves and should be forced to sell all their franchise properties.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

The "X" should be in reference to full frontal nudity and sexual relations. Change things up in the Star Wars world.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

So, she is right on track to hit that mark for churning out bomb after bomb. It's all about consistency.



True story.



intrigued. Go on.



Also still intrigued... go on.

Well, if I had it my way, you would break the galaxy up into component pieces. Rival Sith regions fighting it out amongst themselves, rival Jedi temples could spring up with some clinging to the old ways like not getting married and some embracing full penetration.

You could have old republic districts, imperial districts and then new sectors that are all there own thing. Hutts rule in one area, Wookies in another, everyone raiding each other for slaves and resources.

This gives them open space to build up some new races and ideas. Bring in stuff from the EU or video games. Really they could do anything they want. Strange new ship ideas. Make it a big mess until someone really big and really bad comes and cleans it up, and unites everyone who is left against him.

I would have Kennedy play the main villain (as a male) since she is the most hated person in the whole Star Wars universe and is totally irredeemable, so when she gets her head cut off, audiences will cheer like crazy. It will be like planet earth scoring the game winning goal in a galactic world cup levels of cheering. Whoever does it will become a most beloved hero on par with Luke.

She doesn't have to have any lines, her voice box could be robotic. She just sits there and points at things and uses a voice actor for her robot voice. Minimal acting required. Maybe do some sparkly hand lightning here and there.

 

[jeff7b9]

No just no. Need to scratch ST from cannon and start over 5 years after ROTJ re cast Luke , Han an Leia. This would be trash an a embarrassment. Make Thrawn the big bad for first 2 then I tro in an old school sith like Plageius for 3rd..

I'd love a Darth Bane film or series.
Probably would work great as a series, but a trilogy vould work too.

Just as long as Kathleen Kennedy stayed the fuck away and they didn't fuck it up trying to be woke.

His book series was great.
Dark. Violent.
Full of revenge and malice.

The Sith Academy depicted in his time sounds beautifully evil. Those fight scenes and subsequent drama, bullying, etc, would make for a great series and STRONG antagonists.

Series could be called "The Rule of Two"

 

[Bacco]

Lmao you can't make this shit up

 

[Deleted member 110072]

LIke @Batjester said, can we just fuck off withe Skywalker/Jedi/Sith shit? I have felt like that for a long time.

Probably in the minority here, but whatever, to each his own, but Rogue One has been my favourite Star Wars movie yet (yes, this includes the original trilogy). More like a space heist. Had just enough of a hint of Force/Sith to be cool, but not take away from the main point of the film. Maybe the appeal of something Star Wars standalone-ish drew me in, or that it seemed darker in fare than normal, but Gareth Edwards did a damn fine job. And it also seems like an aberration as well, and most of the Disney Star Wars stuff has been very fucking meh.

With Disney's current track record of throwing shit at a wall and hoping it sticks (when it comes to their staple franchises), I am not even sure a new movie is even the way to go forward for them. Every movie besides the original trilogy has been met with more and more criticism than praise and gets nitpicked to death, but often for very good reason.

Not many of their SW TV outings have been stellar either. Most of the Star Wars series have been, or could have been, one and done seasons. To me, it just seemed like Disney was duplicating what Marvel was doing with their series and characters etc, with similar success rates at that.

I would like a harder hitting SW series, something like a Star Wars/Sopranos/John Wick hybrid almost. Set in the SW universe but focus on the underbelly and seedy side, less on the good guy underdog-rising hero(es) trope. Set up Guilds at something like the Continental for the bounty hunters, smugglers, etc. No PG-13 shit, even gives you a chance to slide in plenty of well-known characters as cameos or recurring character roles (like Mandalorian, Lando, Solo, Fett, Kenobi, Andor etc). Thread story arcs without having to do whole mediorce seasonal productions based around the character.

I am no crazy SW mega-nerd. Haven't read all of the books, comics, studied all the fact sheets etc... don't have time or the interest. Too old I guess. But I am tired of the good-guy heroic crap all the time. Let's take the kid gloves off, give us something SW, but a little edgier. What entertained us when we were kids, is not going to cut it now that we are all old fuckers. Star Wars was pretty cool and mind-blowing as a kid, and Disney needs to step it up and bring their A-game.

PS. If Vader is PG-13, Disney can go fuck themselves and should be forced to sell all their franchise properties.

I think Andor is a pretty clear follow on from Rogue One, Gilroy was brought on for some rewrites and pickups of that film, he did the same with Edwards Godzilla film.

As you say though those two together do a very good job of showing Starwars doesnt need to be dominated by Jedi/Sith plots. I think those plots worked well in the original films but not nearly so well in anything which has followed.

Personally I think besides the original characters(which the sequels thoughly shat on) I think the main strength of Starwars is really the setting. Its not even really the exact specifics of the setting for me so much as the style/tone of it, the used future industrial look mixed with frontier exoticism which takes itself very seriously. Thats really what Rogue One and Andor exploited to great effect I think because Edwards was a genuine Starwars fan, not some cynical hack like Abrams who claims to love it but really treats it more like Hannibal lector wearing a victims face.

 

[TheGreenMachine]

I think Andor is a pretty clear follow on from Rogue One, Gilroy was brought on for some rewrites and pickups of that film, he did the same with Edwards Godzilla film.

As you say though those two together do a very good job of showing Starwars doesnt need to be dominated by Jedi/Sith plots. I think those plots worked well in the original films but not nearly so well in anything which has followed.

Personally I think besides the original characters(which the sequels thoughly shat on) I think the main strength of Starwars is really the setting. Its not even really the exact specifics of the setting for me so much as the style/tone of it, the used future industrial look mixed with frontier exoticism which takes itself very seriously. Thats really what Rogue One and Andor exploited to great effect I think because Edwards was a genuine Starwars fan, not some cynical hack like Abrams who claims to love it but really treats it more like Hannibal lector wearing a victims face.

This is why the Mandalorian is so popular. It wasn't even because it was Boba Fett lite, it was because it was the first Star Wars movies or series since the OT (and Rogue One) to feature world building and sets outside of Tatooine (that looked realistic, not CGI). I don't understand how any of these current directors or producers don't understand that the OT was less about action and lightsabers (because there wasn't much of either in A New Hope), and more about the world building and drama happening on those planets.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

This is why the Mandalorian is so popular. It wasn't even because it was Boba Fett lite, it was because it was the first Star Wars movies or series since the OT (and Rogue One) to feature world building and sets outside of Tatooine (that looked realistic, not CGI). I don't understand how any of these current directors or producers don't understand that the OT was less about action and lightsabers (because there wasn't much of either in A New Hope), and more about the world building and drama happening on those planets.

A massive part of the appeal of the originals I'd say is the art design, as has often been said its not really that interested in exact detail, not really "sci fi" but it is very much interested in how things look. I think perhaps the biggest influence on it people tend to look past its Tarkovskys Solaris, that films "used future" ends up being a massive influence I think along with stuff like Silent Running and Mœbius(the french comic artist not the comic vampire). I think Edwards really hit on what the appeal of Starwars was original, that design language used on classic plot archetypes(in his case a dirty dozen style WW2 film mixed with modern middle eastern war films). You might not know the exact sci fi info on a place like Tatoonine but it had this really interested lived in realistic vibe to it, both Mando and Andor follow his film much more.

To be fair I think Lucas did try somewhat to recreate this with the prequels but simply missed the mark, too much CGI definitely didn't help but also he never really hit on an interesting story to tell IMHO and tried for a different design look(more Flash Gordon) that simply didn't end up as evocative. He ended up going too much into exact details about the villians plotting rather than making the villian and heroes interesting and the world evocative.

All the cultural war arguments which Sherdog loves I don't think really explain the sequels, I don't think for a moment Kennedy or Disney cares deeply about pushing a feminism message and indeed I don't think the films amount to much more than very thin tokenism whilst arguably being pretty dam racist with Finn. I think the issue is more that Abrams in this and his Trek films really was riding on the "anti geek" ticket, all those prequel(and Matrix sequel) analysis videos by people like Chris Stuckman which went crazy on the net in the late 00's and early 10's which basically pushed the idea that blockbusters were little more than mixing nostalgia with some simple archetypes. Were actually being a fan of the franchise your making content for ends up being a bad thing. You can kind of see how Abrams early films might have confirmed this to execs but really its a formula which has a limited shelf life, it quickly uses up good will for a short term nostalgia hit.

I would add as well I think execs also prefer this kind of more hackish film because it tends to be made by people who are easy to control. When your dealing with creatives who really care about a franchise and have some genuine talent I think theres much more risk they end up taking control. Look for example at Feige forcing out Ike Pearlmurter at Marvel, I think thats what a lot of execs who depend on a franchise for their career fear the most. Indeed you look at whats happened and I think Kennedy was right to fear this, I think its clear that Farvaeu and Foloni being given Mando has ended up as a challange to her position and Starwars generally has ended up as a bit of a power battle(which I think helps to explain why the franchise has gotten so messy). Often though that seems to be what needs to happen for a franchise to advance, at Warners for example I think the Synderverse DC films were really as much about a group of talentless execs holding sway and it was only after that franchise tanked and those execs were finally fired that you stared to get films like Joker and The Batman being made, started to get more creative directors given power to do what they wanted.

 

[GergreG]

Please not another f***ing Death star.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

STAR WARS: EPISODE X - A NEW BEGINNING May Be The Title Of Rey-Focused Movie After All

Despite reports to the contrary, it seems Lucasfilm's Rey-focused movie starring Daisy Ridley may be titled Star Wars: Episode X - A New Beginning after all...

comicbookmovie.com

As predicted -

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Still not believing this is happening until its confirmed to be filming.

Kathleen Kennedy has announced half a dozen Star Wars films were being made in the last 4.5 years and they've all either been cancelled or still in pre-production and should be considered 'about to be cancelled.'

Called it.