Stallone- "Tomy Morrison hit the hardest"

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This was a direct quote from Stallone when asked, of all the opponents he faced throughout the six rocky movies, who threw the hardest punch? Even though Dolph Lundgren "Drago, Rocky IV" hit Stallone so hard that his ribcaged slammed against his heart, causing his heart to swell and Stallone to be airlifted to the hospital, he said that it was Morrison by far. He also said that while they were shooting one scene, Morrison hit the canvas bag so hard that it ripped open, spilling sand everywhere and ruining the take.

Some people have said Morrison hit harder than Tyson. Is there any truth to this rumor? This is also the guy who said he was nervous fighting with smaller gloves because he didn't want to break his hand/kill his opponent. I think he's full of shit in that regard, because the guy talks like an idiot, but can anyone validate what he's saying?
 
Tommy Morrison hit pretty fuckin' hard.

Want to compare him to Tyson? They do have a common opponent who both beat. Tommy KO'd Razor Ruddock in 6, Tyson in 7, and couldn't do it at all in their second fight. And I've heard some things about the first bout that suggest Tyson's first win over Ruddock wasn't all that to brag about.

Tommy was always a punch and not much more. He showed the ability to box, but was prone to abandoning that style if he could land his left-hook. It cost him a fight he should have won once upon a time, because he was on the chinny side and prone to gassing, but his punching power has never been denied to my knowledge.
 
That's blasphemy.

I recall Ivan Drago beasting the power machine to 1850 PSI.
 
Tommy Morrison most definitely hit harder than Mike Tyson. Tyson was a combination guy, where Morrison had the propensity to turn your lights out with one shot from either hand, though his left hook was his bread and butter.
 
I'm sure if what Stallone is saying makes sense.

Since all of the fighters were required to pull thier punches, how can he judge who really hit the hardest? We all know it's Morrison, based on real fights, but I don't see how he has enough real experience, since he never took any of thier shots full power.

As for Morrision/Ruddock and Tyson/Ruddock, I think Razor was in two different places in his career when he met those guys.
 
I think the Rudduck fights are a fair comparrison as the Tommy of 96 wasn't exactly the Tommy of 91 either.

But of the guys Stallone fought in the Rocky films only Tarver and Morrison were boxers, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out Morrison hit harder than Tarver. Dolph Lundgren was a European heavyweight full-contact karate champion, Mr. T was a bouncer/bodyguard who got famous for winning the "World's Toughest Bouncer" contest which was basically a bouncer obstacle course, and Carl Weathers was a former football/track star in college and one time Oakland Raider.
 
Morrison Was A Puncher-couldn't Box Fruit-lol
 
I take Clubber Lang over all of them thank you very much.
 
It's pretty obvious it would be Tommy to crack Stallone the hardest. Who else would it be? Carl Weathers? Mr. T? Dolph? Tarver?
 
Ancient Warrior said:
I'm sure if what Stallone is saying makes sense.

Since all of the fighters were required to pull thier punches, how can he judge who really hit the hardest? We all know it's Morrison, based on real fights, but I don't see how he has enough real experience, since he never took any of thier shots full power.

As for Morrision/Ruddock and Tyson/Ruddock, I think Razor was in two different places in his career when he met those guys.
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No those punches were real. Sly is just "like a piece of iron".
 
Carl weathers (apollo) and stallone began feuding after weathers demanded too much money to appear in six, but had always said he was tougher than stallone, when asked to rank the toughest guys in the movies stallone said "tommy morrison, dolph lundgren, myself, mr t, burgess meredith, talia shire, my son, then carl weathers"
 
Prestige Crane said:
Carl weathers (apollo) and stallone began feuding after weathers demanded too much money to appear in six, but had always said he was tougher than stallone, when asked to rank the toughest guys in the movies stallone said "tommy morrison, dolph lundgren, myself, mr t, burgess meredith, talia shire, my son, then carl weathers"
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Well, he died in the 4th film so I don't see how he is of much use.
 
Prestige Crane said:
Carl weathers (apollo) and stallone began feuding after weathers demanded too much money to appear in six, but had always said he was tougher than stallone, when asked to rank the toughest guys in the movies stallone said "tommy morrison, dolph lundgren, myself, mr t, burgess meredith, talia shire, my son, then carl weathers"
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I don't doubt that Dolph was tough being a European karate champion, but I really doubt T had more skill in the ring than Carl Weathers. Weathers actually looked like he knew what he was doing in the ring and moved pretty well. If you've ever seen Mr. T's boxing match with Roddy Piper, which was staged, you can see T doesn't have the faintest idea what to do in a boxing ring.
 
Ruddock was pretty shot when he fought Morrison, and the stoppage was BS, there was barely any time left in the round, Razor could have survived.

Tyson fought Ruddock in his prime and stopped him in the 1st fight, a premature stoppage definitely, but Razor was badly hurt and there was plenty of time left in the round for Mike to finish him. A stoppage was definitely inevitable.

Another comparison, Mike fought Carl Wiliams at Williams best, Mike KO'd him in 90seconds. Morrison fought a past his prime Williams a few years later and took him out late in a drawn out war.

Tyson definitely hit harder than Morrison. KO'd much better opponents, much more impresively.
 
Was Tyson better than Tommy? Absolutely. Better head movement, better combination punching, MUCH better chin. But thats what enabled Mike to get guys earlier than Tommy did. Against a guy who could punch like Carl Williams, Morrison had trouble getting to him, but on the occasions he did he put him down, then finally put him out.

Tommy in 1996 was just as shot as Razor, believe me. Tyson KO'd better opponents for sure, but it was the attributes like his defensive abilities, ability to take a punch, and his combination fluidity that allowed him to get those KOs.

Tommy pretty much had nothing but his punching power, and it was definitely superior to Tyson's. Tyson KOing guys more impressively? I guess you've never seen Tommy fight. The people he KO'd were more impressive than Morrison's opposition, but in spectacle Tommy produced the more eye catching KOs, most off the time off of one punch.
 
BrooklynBomber said:
I don't doubt that Dolph was tough being a European karate champion, but I really doubt T had more skill in the ring than Carl Weathers. Weathers actually looked like he knew what he was doing in the ring and moved pretty well. If you've ever seen Mr. T's boxing match with Roddy Piper, which was staged, you can see T doesn't have the faintest idea what to do in a boxing ring.
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I believe he won a toughman championship though.
 
Ancient Warrior said:
I believe he won a toughman championship though.
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How much stock do you put in winning a toughman championship? I know it had its buzz in the 80's, but most of the guys there are the armchair qb equivalent of boxing. Three, minute long rounds, fighting at most three times in one night. I think Weathers probably would have done ok in there.
 
Morrison's left hook was probably harder than any single punch Tyson threw, but Tyson had every punch: uppercuts/straight right/hooks to the body & head etc with tremendous speed etc and was an all around far superior fighter. But Morrison had some spectacular one punch KO's, even more than Tyson.
 
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