South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist COVID-19 'not real'

I'm against the mask mandates. It's not good that we have to wear them 8 hrs a day or else deal with people reporting businesses for fines if they see someone inside without one on. It's not healthy to wear those things for 8hrs a day for many reasons. And we've been dealing with mask mandates for many months now and cases rising. Masks will not stop the virus.

Again, I'm a big freedom guy, people know the risks, they can manage their own lives. And govt and business doesn't need more control over them and threats of fines. This is the USA

We don't have one here. Businesses all require them anyway but it's not the government deciding it. If you're for freedom, you have to be for allowing businesses to decide their own policies right?

They slow the spread. I wouldn't want to wear one 8 hours a day either but I'm working from home so that's not an issue. Maybe I'd be less adamant if I had to wear one all day, not sure.
 
How about this: people that don’t believe in science don’t get medical treatment; they don’t get cell phones; they don’t get TV or Xbox or electricity or Facebook.
 
I'm against the mask mandates. It's not good that we have to wear them 8 hrs a day or else deal with people reporting businesses for fines if they see someone inside without one on. It's not healthy to wear those things for 8hrs a day for many reasons. And we've been dealing with mask mandates for many months now and cases rising. Masks will not stop the virus.

Again, I'm a big freedom guy, people know the risks, they can manage their own lives. And govt and business doesn't need more control over them and threats of fines. This is the USA

I wear mask for 12.5 hour shifts since covid hit and previously for years and I don't have any issues. What's not healthy it's spreading covid around and causing headaches for hospitals and states. Freedom doesn't give you the right to spread it to other people, only selfish idiots think this way.

Just wear a mask when in close quarters and inside business, and try to stay away from big crowds till we get a vaccine and everyone is vaccinated. That's not too much to ask right?

"In a review9 of observational studies, an international research team estimates that surgical and comparable cloth masks are 67% effective in protecting the wearer"

Mask significantly decrease the chances of getting covid and if you add social distancing it makes a huge difference. The issue is idiots aren't following safety guidelines. Care to guess which states are are doing the worse with covid and what they all have in common?
 
I wouldn't be surprised. On a normal day it's very hard for people to admit they're wrong about something. People have an automatic bias towards defending their self-esteem and their ego. For example in psychology studies they found that when people fail they tend to blame circumstances, but when they succeed they systematically credit the success to their own abilities. Now imagine people who are very sick and wrestling with the idea that their own stupidity may have caused their death. They can't handle it.
 
You do realize she mention it was numerous idiots saying this? You also realize South Dakota has the second highest infection rate per capita in the country because of idiots. It's an epidemic of trumptards causing major issues.

Other countries have conservative and liberal parties and they don't treat covid as a partisan issue like this.

I think you read my response wrong or responded too quickly. I was telling ding bat that it doesn’t matter if it were one or 1000. There are people who follow Trump who believe everything he says. He sees everything as a game.
 
That has nothing to do with what I said and you calling it the trump virus is a terrible tell. I wish there were more people genuinely interested in being a benefit to humanity
You said trumpvirus is not very deadly. Its the #1 cause of death
 
You seriously gonna pretend all those are dead only due to covid, how full of shit are you.

If covid was solely as deadly as that chart insinuates USA should have 700,000 excess deaths for the year.

CDC it self blatantly released 6% of those that died solely died of covid, now sure covid helped cause the death in others but its quite factitious to assign covid as the reason and not one of their many preexisting condition they were already slowly dying off and lets not forget to add old age to that. But hey their is political and financial reasoning for that.
We have over 300,000 that came in waves. yes the trumpvirus killed them.
 
You said trumpvirus is not very deadly. Its the #1 cause of death
It’s not very deadly in the sense most people who get it will be completely fine, even if they have preexisting conditions that make them at risk. Ridiculous to assert Christie or trump would have died if they were normal people. The numbers don’t support that.
 
Yeah I have never advocated for mass shutdowns. It's not sustainable, and the approach needs to be targeted. Plus, you can allow businesses to operate with some restrictions so they can remain viable. I don't think anyone is arguing that you can't put some safety guidelines in place. You just need to use common sense.

The problem is people won't use common sense and wear a mask.
 
I've had corona, and I'm certain it affects every person differently. For me the first two days were hell just fucking terrible. Then on third day I was simply tired, and by the 6th day it was as if nothing happened. Though it took three weeks to get back to work because every test was positive. Really don't know if I was positive or my insurance was getting milked.
 
How about this: people that don’t believe in science don’t get medical treatment; they don’t get cell phones; they don’t get TV or Xbox or electricity or Facebook.
Agreed, anyone who thinks men can be women and women can be men, and who think babies aren't people should get no medical treatment, cell phones or basic utilities.
 
I've had corona, and I'm certain it affects every person differently. For me the first two days were hell just fucking terrible. Then on third day I was simply tired, and by the 6th day it was as if nothing happened. Though it took three weeks to get back to work because every test was positive. Really don't know if I was positive or my insurance was getting milked.

That's pretty standard. You beat the infection but there are still fragments of viral RNA left in your system so the test continues turning positive for a few weeks even if the virus is dead.
 
Agreed, anyone who thinks men can be women and women can be men, and who think babies aren't people should get no medical treatment, cell phones or basic utilities.
People that don’t think men can be women and women can be men likely don’t believe in science.
 
I'm against the mask mandates. It's not good that we have to wear them 8 hrs a day or else deal with people reporting businesses for fines if they see someone inside without one on. It's not healthy to wear those things for 8hrs a day for many reasons. And we've been dealing with mask mandates for many months now and cases rising. Masks will not stop the virus.

Again, I'm a big freedom guy, people know the risks, they can manage their own lives. And govt and business doesn't need more control over them and threats of fines. This is the USA
You are the problem. You hit every trope.
 
I didn't read all of the thread, thought to post this article is case it hadn't been mentioned earlier.

FACT CHECK: CNN's Viral COVID-19 Nurse Might Have Overembellished A Bit

https://redstate.com/scotthounsell/...urse-might-have-overembellished-a-bit-n281204

excerpt:

On Monday a South Dakota nurse by the name of Jodi Doering made waves across social media as a result of a CNN interview in which she claimed she’s currently treating numerous COVID-19 patients who denying the virus’s existence while dying horrible deaths from COVID-19 in packed hospitals in South Dakota. The only problem is, the story is likely false and if not, a gross over-embellishment of the facts.

Nurse Doering, a Marquette grad and licensed Certified Nurse Practitioner (CNP) lives in a little town called Woonsocket, in Sanborn County. Sanborn County has had just one COVID-19 death since the beginning of the pandemic, according to South Dakota’s COVID-19 statistics website, which provides data from all the different regions and counties in South Dakota, and USFacts.org. That death occurred in October.

(Sounds a little bit like this debunked crying nurse story from back in April, doesn’t it?)

Doering doesn’t list a place of employment on her social media pages, but RedState has determined she was an employee of Huron Regional Medical Center, where she has worked, at times, on the COVID-19 unit in the hospital. According to the hospital’s marketing lead, with whom RedState spoke this morning, the hospital has only seen six deaths total since the beginning of the outbreak, compared to 22 deaths total in the entire county of Beadle, where HRMC is located. At HRMC there are currently only six non-critical COVID-19 patients in the hospital, one of whom is in the ICU. There are no patients currently on ventilators, according to the State’s COVID-19 statistics page.

This discrepancy was originally brought to my attention by Mediaite’s John Ziegler, who questioned how the nurse could have had contact with as many patients as she reported, despite such a low count for the county in which she worked.




Ziegler said in a statement to RedState:

“The story is inherently nonsensical, and her demeanor is odd. Her original viral tweet said nothing at all about “death” and her description of patients “shouting” seemed very inconsistent with someone who was dying of COVID. Also, she is an ER nurse, not apparently an ICU worker. It was also very obvious that her politics are liberal, so that also made me suspect her bias against Trump supporters in her area. Finally, my initial research into the local death data raised further serious questions.

I also know that CNN’s vetting of such a situation would likely be nonexistent, especially given the narrative here is one they love. It is nearly impossible to prove her story is false unless someone from the hospital calls out her story, so I doubt there will be any accountability here. This is not the first time this kind of thing has happened, and I am sure it will not be the last.”

Ziegler’s statement led to RedState conducting further investigation into the matter. Of the six deaths identified, RedState was able to determine that one was the tragic case of a 21-year-old mother of three who died back in May. Without revealing the identity of the mother, RedState has determined that she likely was not a patient who denied the existence of the virus. That leaves us with five patients that died at the hospital since the beginning of the outbreak, whom we have not been able to identify. RedState was not able to determine whether or not Doering was working at the time of any of the deaths. She could have been there for all five, or there for none of them. The narrative that Doering appeared to be weaving does is not supported by the facts.

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Beadle County COVID Stats
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Huron Regional Medical Center Current Hospitalization Stats
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The Regional Bed Capacity Statistics from South Dakota, including Beadle County

Doering’s social media postings clearly show she leans hard left. Her actions leave some very difficult questions as to why Doering would have violated patient privacy laws in the case her accounts are true, and some even more difficult questions if she has made the case up. Even if she were telling the truth about one patient, the story that she’s witnessing this on a consistent and regular basis appears to be a complete fabrication. As you can see from the statistic above, Huron Regional Medical Center does not have an alarmingly high patient load, the region seems safe in their capacities, and there isn’t a single patient in the region on a ventilator.

Doering’s account on Twitter (and during her CNN interview) imply that these events are happening consistently, that she was encountering this problem on a regular basis. While Doering may have witnessed her described situation once or twice (or at the most five times over eight months), the way the media blew it up made it seem like she was in a full COVID-19 treatment ward that was encountering this situation multiple times a day. From stats and the data available, as well as contact with the hospital, that appears to just not be the case.....
 
Dustin Johnson just won the Masters with Covid. The Braves had the MVP after Covid. Ronaldo scored two goals after Covid.

Great one off hearsay anecdote. Great thread. 10/10
Excellent comparison. A level athletes vs people who are in the hospital because fat or old.
 
Like Chris Christie and Trump

I know right, I mean Trump and other (former) politicians have the same treatment as everyone else, right? Trump is strong man, he good!

Seriously though, the funny thing about this picture of Trump's covid medical team is that there were three or four missing from what I remember.....

You're not dealing with a full deck if you bring up people like Christie and especially the (outgoing) President when discussing how regular people recover, especially at their age, weight, and health levels....

I wonder how crappy they felt knowing that if they lost Trump, they would have lost the President, and if they saved him, he would use the situation to downplay the risk. I'm no fan of Biden/Harris, but damn if Trump isn't scum.

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Trump's own doctors told the whole world that he received oxygen, regeneron, and remdesivir during a press conference.

God damn man how are you so unaware of these things? Weren't you watching tv when he went got airlifted the hospital lol??

Trumpkins can't even admit their superman needed emergency life saving experimental drugs only given as a last resort... hard to accept your favorite super hero is a mere mortal I guess.
Tremendous drugs, truly tremendous drugs.
 
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