Somewhat of a conjugate log

general s and c day 2 week 3

short bullpen and pitching drills

bench
205x4x2@6
195x6@6
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SSB
235x6x2@6
255x8@8

clean
185x2x3
195x2
205x1@9

alternating DB tricep extensions and db curls

tri 30sx13,12,10@8
25sx14@10

curls
15,12,11@8
14@10

did half reps to burn out on both

got some barbell medicine pre workout it feels real good rather expensive though got the caffein free kind
 
short pitching drills session and hitting

60 yard shuttle runx4
short mobility routine after lifting

general s and c day 3

deadlift
405x4x2@6
455x5@8

EMOM bench 63%
175x3x10

BSS with SSB
115x8x3@8, 125x9@10 each leg

DB row
70ILBx9@7, 70x10@9 both arms

nordic hamsring curls with my sled
10-12 reps@8
 


This the 515lbs single you mentioned? Do you plan on pulling the 600lbs with straps ?

Where did you feel most of that pull? Lower back looks strong and you were able to grind through. You lose a bit of tightness through the upper back and kinda dip forward a bit. Were the shoes you were wearing heeled by any chance?

Start looks good, end looks good it's just the middle bit. I think you need more upper to mid back work, but I wouldn't want to go too hard on it with baseball.

I also can't work out your plates? Are all of them 45s except the end two because that doesn't look like 515lb. Admittedly I am used to Kgs.
 
Yea you dont really know what you are talking about. it is 4 45s 2 of them are a different style of plate. 2 35s and 4 10s which equals 515.

of course I am going to pull it wit straps im not going to screw up my hands for a lift that just isn't that important for baseball.

My weakness has nothing to do with lower or mid back it has to do with I have weak legs and dont get a good pull off the floor. I squat like 445 in this log somewhere while doing westside. That is necessarily indicative that I cant pull more even without a stronger squat but it is indicative that I have weak legs. That 2018 video I was my strongest and I squat 495 which I do not have video of with a low bar position. Low bar squats are terrible for almost any other goal that is not powerlifting so I no longer do them.

What I was doing in 2018 was not a smart thing to do just just do a top set am rap and bulk to infinity. It was a stupid thing to do and it was Never necessary.

If I keep going on my newer program that I have done for about 14 total weeks with missing weeks/days etc I will catch and surpass those numbers. Will it take a while training like I am? yes but the program works or I would not be getting stronger at all. My main focus right now is improving my Olympic lifts and I also do a low volume approach to them as well. You preach about train harder train harder and it is annoying as a high school atta boy football coach. Nuerological fatigue is a real phenomena and your body can only take so much stress.
 
Yea you dont really know what you are talking about. it is 4 45s 2 of them are a different style of plate. 2 35s and 4 10s which equals 515.

of course I am going to pull it wit straps im not going to screw up my hands for a lift that just isn't that important for baseball.

My weakness has nothing to do with lower or mid back it has to do with I have weak legs and dont get a good pull off the floor. I squat like 445 in this log somewhere while doing westside. That is necessarily indicative that I cant pull more even without a stronger squat but it is indicative that I have weak legs. That 2018 video I was my strongest and I squat 495 which I do not have video of with a low bar position. Low bar squats are terrible for almost any other goal that is not powerlifting so I no longer do them.

What I was doing in 2018 was not a smart thing to do just just do a top set am rap and bulk to infinity. It was a stupid thing to do and it was Never necessary.

If I keep going on my newer program that I have done for about 14 total weeks with missing weeks/days etc I will catch and surpass those numbers. Will it take a while training like I am? yes but the program works or I would not be getting stronger at all. My main focus right now is improving my Olympic lifts and I also do a low volume approach to them as well. You preach about train harder train harder and it is annoying as a high school atta boy football coach. Nuerological fatigue is a real phenomena and your body can only take so much stress.

How dare I be slightly confused by the mix of random plates. I rock a mix of bumper and old steel plates myself, but I have 4x25kgs, 4x20kgs and then singles down to 1.25kgs. With 2x20kgs and 2x 10kgs in bumpers.

What weight jumps do you have?

Well if you use straps, grip work isn't as much of an issue. That's why I asked.

Once you break it off the floor it's fine. You shoot up a bit, but your lower back can take it. Your shoulders rolled forward and you didn't pull your shoulders and lats down at the start which is more of a worry.

Don't stress I hate low bar squats. I wouldn't say to do them.
I think Zercher squats would be better for you personally. Less overall weight, more stability work to remain upright and doesn't impact your grip at all.
Otherwise the Oly stuff takes care of a bit of it, but I am hesitant to use that as a main lift if you lack the mobility to catch at full depth and are power snatching or cleaning only.

That way you can still do all your sprints, jumps and running. You can do whatever pressing you want also.
 
How dare I be slightly confused by the mix of random plates. I rock a mix of bumper and old steel plates myself, but I have 4x25kgs, 4x20kgs and then singles down to 1.25kgs. With 2x20kgs and 2x 10kgs in bumpers.

What weight jumps do you have?

Well if you use straps, grip work isn't as much of an issue. That's why I asked.

Once you break it off the floor it's fine. You shoot up a bit, but your lower back can take it. Your shoulders rolled forward and you didn't pull your shoulders and lats down at the start which is more of a worry.

Don't stress I hate low bar squats. I wouldn't say to do them.
I think Zercher squats would be better for you personally. Less overall weight, more stability work to remain upright and doesn't impact your grip at all.
Otherwise the Oly stuff takes care of a bit of it, but I am hesitant to use that as a main lift if you lack the mobility to catch at full depth and are power snatching or cleaning only.

That way you can still do all your sprints, jumps and running. You can do whatever pressing you want also.
yea I know all of that. searchers would be terrible given that they stress the elbows. SSB and high bar is fine.

I do do whatever presses I want and yes I catch the full depth.
 
yea I know all of that. searchers would be terrible given that they stress the elbows. SSB and high bar is fine.

I do do whatever presses I want and yes I catch the full depth.
They don't stress your elbows at all. It's just a little bit of pain until your body adjusts if you do them correctly and stay upright.
 
I have to say your form today looked noticeably better than from years ago. The video from years ago for several reps had soft lockout on all reps whereas this one was much better. I would maybe try to push the hips through at the lockout just a tad more.

Have you experimented with taking a slightly narrower stance? Bjornsson had quite a wide stance but because he was such a beast no one bothered to tell him to try narrower stance. Recently he switched to a narrower stance and was even stronger(culminating in his 505kg pull). It slightly shortens the bar path going narrower and grabbing the bar as close to your body as you can comfortably handle.

In any case, great job!
 
Nuerological fatigue is a real phenomena and your body can only take so much stress.
Not even to start or revive an arguement but like a month ago you attempted to mock me with a comment something like "LOL WTF is Mental Energy" which implies that it is not a real thing. Now you claim that Neurological Fatigue is a real thing. This is actually true! Both of them are real things.
The problem is the contradiction your two posts now make. The/A definition of NF is in part "a state of reduced mental energy" You can't have it both ways, can't have one without the other.
Before you start to cry about me bringing up old shit please remind yourself that you threatened to kill me if you ever run across me which I find reprehensible so unless you apologize you'll get what you deserve from here on.

End of polite point of contention. Good Day.
 
Remembering the entire goal of what you said was to improve your deadlift 75lbs something like this is what I would recommend:

Day 1
Heavy Deadlift focus

General Warmup (whatever you prefer)
3 rounds RPE 7
Facepulls x20
Banded pulldowns (lat focus) x20
Single leg deadlift x8 each side

Snatch (Or vertical jump)
Focus on power and technique, working to a weight to hit for 5 good singles would be a good start. Vert jump 5x2 instead.

Deficit Deadlift (Stand on a plate or equivalent that allows normal foot width)
5x3
Week 1 75%,Week 2 80%, Week 3, 85%, Week 4 55%
(Week 5,6,7 go 80%, 90%, retest)
(Add press here if you want)

Superset 4 rounds
DB chest supported rows 4x8-10 RPE 8
Nordic curl or halop curl 4x5-8 RPE 8
Suitcase carry x5 rounds each side (no straps)
Pick a distance and weight that is hard, but doable by the 3rd set.


Day 2
Athletic Focus
General warmup (Whatever you prefer)

3 rounds RPE 7
Chest supported YTWs x10 each side
Cossack Squat x10 Each side
Over head carry 20-40m

Broad Jump 5x3, 1 min rest between reps (100% effort each rep)

Zercher Squats
4x6 RPE 8
(Add press here if you want)

Superset, 90 sec rest between rounds
4 rounds RPE 8
Dumbell Swing 4x8-12 each side
RDL 4x8-12
3 rounds of 2 mins initially building each session.

Plank, alternate 1 foot off ground every 30 secs for 2 mins, 1 min rest

Notes:
3 weeks on 1 week deload, deload will be done at 55-60% and drop set count in half.
E.g 4 rounds becomes, 55% and 2 sets instead of 3 or 4.

2x 4 week cycles of the above and then we restest, adding weight to deadlift by percentage. Try to add weight or reps to each assistance exercise.
The plan from there would be to swap out some exercises based on the testing and how you feel.

Deficit deadlift swaps out for normal deadlift and pull repeat singles with smaller rest.

The idea is to get you used to pulling hard regularly, but without crazy amounts of volume.

8 weeks again, including 2 deloads and assess from there.
E.g
You pull 545lbs would be repeat singles with something like:
Week 1 475 5x1, with 1 min rest
Week 2 485 5x1, with 1 min rest
Week 3 495 5x1, with 1 min rest
Week 4 Deload
Week 5 500lbs 3x1 1-2 min rest
Week 6 510 3x1 1-2 min rest
Week 7 520 lbs 3x1 1-2 min rest
Week 8 deload

The above should have us somewhere around 550lb to 570lb again, with a shit load of practice and work capacity in the deadlift specifically.

On the assistance with a rep range aim for a weight you can only hit the lower range on. The higher reps are for when you can’t add weight but can have a win by adding a rep to the set.

Heavy day at the start of the week to maximize recovery before baseball on the weekend. Hit the athletic day at least 3 days out.

I added a space where you could do a press variation if you wanted to only do these two sessions, to free up a day for some conditioning.
I would do that conditioning as a finisher post baseball skill work personally.

That's a loose version of what I would recommend if someone asked me with your background. That's with the little detail you gave me.

Main points:

Your lower back is strong enough, so I am building your upper/mid back with lots of pulling etc.
I am getting you to pull from a deficit to build your supposed weak pull off the floor.
Percentage based for the pulls, but RPE 7,8,9 would also work, provided each week progresses.
I am keeping the heavy work lower volume or choosing exercises that will keep your legs fresh for sport by limiting total weight, e.g zercher squats.
You can either do a maintenance press program (spot in session) or do a 3rd day, provided you avoid adding to much more rowing.
2 days instead of 4, (optional 3rd) to allow you to still recover to train for your sport whilst lifting heavier than normal.

After we see where the above gets you I would do some more traditional powerlifting sets to get to 600lbs depending on how you respond to the above. That's when I would do your more traditional sets with long rest periods. I want you to lift with shorter rests prior to that so when it becomes about chasing 1RMs the sessions feel easy even in season.

I am sure with a bit more info like specific days, I could move a bit more around and adjust assistance if you want to press in these sessions. I tried to keep some athletic work in there for you that is easy to recover from.

You have years of working up to a moderate single set so i want repeat sets across for the first 8 weeks and then repeated heavier singles for the second 8 weeks. I want to add a bit of volume without going too crazy. The big lifts are reasonably low volume overall.

Then I can see where we end up and go from there. None of the assistance work would be set in stone, but it's either hamstring, upper back or hip focused.
I tried to use some stuff you haven't regularly done because your assistance work has stayed pretty static in exercise choice.

Critique away. That's what I have done off a single video, looking through your log and the assumption you play weekend baseball only which you didn't confirm. Not perfect, but no program is. Feel free to pick out what you really hate and I will explain why I included it so we can have a bit of fun either way. Same applies to anyone.
 
Not even to start or revive an arguement but like a month ago you attempted to mock me with a comment something like "LOL WTF is Mental Energy" which implies that it is not a real thing. Now you claim that Neurological Fatigue is a real thing. This is actually true! Both of them are real things.
The problem is the contradiction your two posts now make. The/A definition of NF is in part "a state of reduced mental energy" You can't have it both ways, can't have one without the other.
Before you start to cry about me bringing up old shit please remind yourself that you threatened to kill me if you ever run across me which I find reprehensible so unless you apologize you'll get what you deserve from here on.

End of polite point of contention. Good Day.
Nobody threatened to kill anybody.

Neural fatigue is a physical phenomena it has nothing to do with sports being mental. It has to do with a lift being fatiguing either neurally or muscularly. How I felt didn’t make a difference I simply walked up to the bar a pulled the weight.
 
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Remembering the entire goal of what you said was to improve your deadlift 75lbs something like this is what I would recommend:

Day 1
Heavy Deadlift focus

General Warmup (whatever you prefer)
3 rounds RPE 7
Facepulls x20
Banded pulldowns (lat focus) x20
Single leg deadlift x8 each side

Snatch (Or vertical jump)
Focus on power and technique, working to a weight to hit for 5 good singles would be a good start. Vert jump 5x2 instead.

Deficit Deadlift (Stand on a plate or equivalent that allows normal foot width)
5x3
Week 1 75%,Week 2 80%, Week 3, 85%, Week 4 55%
(Week 5,6,7 go 80%, 90%, retest)
(Add press here if you want)

Superset 4 rounds
DB chest supported rows 4x8-10 RPE 8
Nordic curl or halop curl 4x5-8 RPE 8
Suitcase carry x5 rounds each side (no straps)
Pick a distance and weight that is hard, but doable by the 3rd set.


Day 2
Athletic Focus
General warmup (Whatever you prefer)

3 rounds RPE 7
Chest supported YTWs x10 each side
Cossack Squat x10 Each side
Over head carry 20-40m

Broad Jump 5x3, 1 min rest between reps (100% effort each rep)

Zercher Squats
4x6 RPE 8
(Add press here if you want)

Superset, 90 sec rest between rounds
4 rounds RPE 8
Dumbell Swing 4x8-12 each side
RDL 4x8-12
3 rounds of 2 mins initially building each session.

Plank, alternate 1 foot off ground every 30 secs for 2 mins, 1 min rest

Notes:
3 weeks on 1 week deload, deload will be done at 55-60% and drop set count in half.
E.g 4 rounds becomes, 55% and 2 sets instead of 3 or 4.

2x 4 week cycles of the above and then we restest, adding weight to deadlift by percentage. Try to add weight or reps to each assistance exercise.
The plan from there would be to swap out some exercises based on the testing and how you feel.

Deficit deadlift swaps out for normal deadlift and pull repeat singles with smaller rest.

The idea is to get you used to pulling hard regularly, but without crazy amounts of volume.

8 weeks again, including 2 deloads and assess from there.
E.g
You pull 545lbs would be repeat singles with something like:
Week 1 475 5x1, with 1 min rest
Week 2 485 5x1, with 1 min rest
Week 3 495 5x1, with 1 min rest
Week 4 Deload
Week 5 500lbs 3x1 1-2 min rest
Week 6 510 3x1 1-2 min rest
Week 7 520 lbs 3x1 1-2 min rest
Week 8 deload

The above should have us somewhere around 550lb to 570lb again, with a shit load of practice and work capacity in the deadlift specifically.

On the assistance with a rep range aim for a weight you can only hit the lower range on. The higher reps are for when you can’t add weight but can have a win by adding a rep to the set.

Heavy day at the start of the week to maximize recovery before baseball on the weekend. Hit the athletic day at least 3 days out.

I added a space where you could do a press variation if you wanted to only do these two sessions, to free up a day for some conditioning.
I would do that conditioning as a finisher post baseball skill work personally.

That's a loose version of what I would recommend if someone asked me with your background. That's with the little detail you gave me.

Main points:

Your lower back is strong enough, so I am building your upper/mid back with lots of pulling etc.
I am getting you to pull from a deficit to build your supposed weak pull off the floor.
Percentage based for the pulls, but RPE 7,8,9 would also work, provided each week progresses.
I am keeping the heavy work lower volume or choosing exercises that will keep your legs fresh for sport by limiting total weight, e.g zercher squats.
You can either do a maintenance press program (spot in session) or do a 3rd day, provided you avoid adding to much more rowing.
2 days instead of 4, (optional 3rd) to allow you to still recover to train for your sport whilst lifting heavier than normal.

After we see where the above gets you I would do some more traditional powerlifting sets to get to 600lbs depending on how you respond to the above. That's when I would do your more traditional sets with long rest periods. I want you to lift with shorter rests prior to that so when it becomes about chasing 1RMs the sessions feel easy even in season.

I am sure with a bit more info like specific days, I could move a bit more around and adjust assistance if you want to press in these sessions. I tried to keep some athletic work in there for you that is easy to recover from.

You have years of working up to a moderate single set so i want repeat sets across for the first 8 weeks and then repeated heavier singles for the second 8 weeks. I want to add a bit of volume without going too crazy. The big lifts are reasonably low volume overall.

Then I can see where we end up and go from there. None of the assistance work would be set in stone, but it's either hamstring, upper back or hip focused.
I tried to use some stuff you haven't regularly done because your assistance work has stayed pretty static in exercise choice.

Critique away. That's what I have done off a single video, looking through your log and the assumption you play weekend baseball only which you didn't confirm. Not perfect, but no program is. Feel free to pick out what you really hate and I will explain why I included it so we can have a bit of fun either way. Same applies to anyone

I don’t care about the entire thing and don’t need a program.
 
I have to say your form today looked noticeably better than from years ago. The video from years ago for several reps had soft lockout on all reps whereas this one was much better. I would maybe try to push the hips through at the lockout just a tad more.

Have you experimented with taking a slightly narrower stance? Bjornsson had quite a wide stance but because he was such a beast no one bothered to tell him to try narrower stance. Recently he switched to a narrower stance and was even stronger(culminating in his 505kg pull). It slightly shortens the bar path going narrower and grabbing the bar as close to your body as you can comfortably handle.

In any case, great job!
I pull more sumo I just have no reason to do it if my sub goal is to get my Olympic lifts up.

I have long legs for my body. I wasn’t going for perfect form here but rather to just get it out of the way. But yes you are right about the narrower stance.
 
I pull more sumo I just have no reason to do it if my sub goal is to get my Olympic lifts up.

I have long legs for my body. I wasn’t going for perfect form here but rather to just get it out of the way. But yes you are right about the narrower stance.

I understand.

I too have long legs and arms. I am 5'11.5. I have always had an easier time getting the weight off the ground but struggling at the top. I remember when I posted my first double on here it had this same issue where I did a soft lockout and bounced it off the floor on second rep. I absolutely suck at sumo so it's great that you're stronger with it. If it works to your leverages that may be your way of pulling the most weight.

For a lift you did on the spur of the moment that was solid.
 
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